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The Heir of the Dragon: A Rhaenyra Targaryen Quest
CharlieKing
Pure of Heart, Dumb of Ass
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if Rhaenyra did conquer Dorne, wouldn't the smart thing to do be marrying their rulling line into ours anyway?
i was under the impression that when a nation with a monarch conquers territory, it was typical of them to marry the local equivalent in order to both have hostages and grant legitimacy(?) to the next in line for the throne in the eyes of the newly annexed territory.
so, funny enough, it would be either Rhaneyra marrying Dornish royalty, or Rhaenyra's children doing the marrying
i was under the impression that when a nation with a monarch conquers territory, it was typical of them to marry the local equivalent in order to both have hostages and grant legitimacy(?) to the next in line for the throne in the eyes of the newly annexed territory.
so, funny enough, it would be either Rhaneyra marrying Dornish royalty, or Rhaenyra's children doing the marrying
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This is why I am anti Conquest. It is cheaper and better to diplo it as it bring out the same result and richer still in blood and gold. May be some diplomatic treaty like increasing trade can be the first step of increasing Unification.
Imperious
Without the sun of my life
Not necessarily. For example it might not be the monarch themself who marry into the ruling line of the conquered, but his own appointed governor who does so. To give a straight example from ASOIAF when Aegon conquered the Stormlands he didn't personally marry Agrilla Durandon, his subordinate whom he left in charge of the Stormlands, Orrys, did.
iggyfan
Verified Man-Thing
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While no IRL examples come to mind, this does seem to have been Stark policy during their conquest of the North (though they may have also been doing it to add the conquered family's magic to their bloodline).
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- Up ya bum!
Honestly I'm find with Rhaenyra marrying the prince of dorne, or maybe one of her future children? Considering Dorne's culture and it finally fulfills the aegon's conquest, sounds good enough too me!
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I'm personally not a huge fan of Rhaenyra marrying into the Martells herself for reasons others have already stated but I'd be alright with promising a marriage between them and a member of the Targaryen family, even one of Rhaenyra's children, in order to secure the succesful absorption of Dorne into the Seven Kingdoms.
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I don't believe it's exactly typical for the conqueror directly to marry into the local nobility though it might happen in cultures with polygyny (see Alexander the Great, Genghis Khan and Muhammad). However, it was considerably more common for the conqueror to have his family (including children) marrying into the local nobility.
I'm personally not a huge fan of Rhaenyra marrying into the Martells herself for reasons others have already stated but I'd be alright with promising a marriage between them and a member of the Targaryen family, even one of Rhaenyra's children, in order to secure the succesful absorption of Dorne into the Seven Kingdoms.
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I don't see really any reason to want to secure the absorption of Dorne into the Seven Kingdoms, except the idea that if we don't one of our descendants might, and they might be a dick about it (looking at YOU Daeron I).
It's okay for people to not be ruled by Targaryens.
It's okay for people to not be ruled by Targaryens.
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Toaster cult
I Am An Imaginary Living Body
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- Tokyo
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Honestly i just kinda want to Knight maxx with the nickname and stuff, My entire goal is to make Rhaenya a woman the singers will fucking love and he Dragon-Knight vs her uncle The Rogue Prince is such a narrative. its fun!
In-character itsan entirely resonable goal for Rhaenyra to arrive at, shes a warrio-queen and tutored by someone who' definiely expecting a dornish war. her family words are Fire and Blood and shes not far out from Aegon, accomplihing what he couldnt would be great for her image
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In-character wise, Dorne is something of a family black mark, the only realm in Westeros that resisted the Dragons, even killed one and one of Aegon's queens. Plus Rhaenyra has spent the past two years around someone who very much wants to conquer Dorne. So Conquering Dorne is an idea that Rhaenyra definitely sees as having Merit.
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I have always found it so funny that by this point in time the Targaryen Royal House have been calling themselves "King/Queen of the Andals, and the Rhoynar, and the First Men. Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm" for almost 150 years, despite never coming close to conquer Dorne...
That is high level copium right there...
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Also this, the Targaryen Dynasty offically considers itself the rightful overlords of Dorne and have not dropped that claim.
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After Ser Arnold's execution, we picked the Vale Knights' words to stick with us most. These were:
And gonna toss an approval vote to:
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Action's tagged "Celebrate," we should do something to celebrate! Patching things up with Daddy isn't likely to be much of a celebration, he feels cornered by our action. Politicking with Rhaenys is just work. And between Ser Raylon and Alicent, Alicent's more fun.
After Ser Arnold's execution, we picked the Vale Knights' words to stick with us most. These were:
And, well, that says it all, doesn't it?
And gonna toss an approval vote to:
[X] [Trait] All That You Could Achieve
[X] [Celebrate] Spend Some Time With Alicent
Action's tagged "Celebrate," we should do something to celebrate! Patching things up with Daddy isn't likely to be much of a celebration, he feels cornered by our action. Politicking with Rhaenys is just work. And between Ser Raylon and Alicent, Alicent's more fun.
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Also that whole prophecy about our dynasty needing to unify Westeros against the creeping chill from beyond the Wall.