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The Galaxy is Flood, Not Food

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M24M42 said:
I offer Health, Vitality, Talent and power in Mind and Body. But I get your Corpse.

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Just the body?

Yes I will take your Corpse

Most beings want Souls?

And what exactly am I supposed to do with something so Etherial it doesn't even have a mass imprint?

Sold!
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Ironically, there is some suggestion in canon that the Flood do infect the "soul", or whatever passes for the neural physics equivalent. This is most apparent with the Forerunners' failed experiments with the composer, and their unsuccessful efforts to excise the Flood infection from the patterns of composed victims. More to the point, the Flood represent a sort of perverted form of immortality; even if the original bodies of their victims are destroyed, their consciousnesses are preserved as part of the hivemind's eternal chorus of deacy.

Tide is honestly showing a great deal of restraint in how they've let those they've infected 'pass on' before hijacking their corpses.
 
Shadowrobot6 said:
I just thought of something. Can tide make replicas of engineers? They are great at repairing things and look fairly non threatening.
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Huragok could be tricky, because they're not actually biological in the traditional sense. They're actually biomechanical artificial organisms; nanocellular technology initiating a "living" organism. Lifeworker-designed Artificial Intelligences pretending to be made of meat.

And honestly, I'd expect the Imperium to shoot the harmless gasbags just for being xenos on general principle. This is WH40k; looking non-threatening is not exactly a selling point here.
 
vIsitor said:
And honestly, I'd expect the Imperium to shoot the harmless gasbags just for being xenos on general principle. This is WH40k; looking non-threatening is not exactly a selling point here.
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If you squint at them they kinda look like Enslavers. Which are psychic sapient warp predators badass enough to survive in the warp on their own and go around all over the galaxy eating people. They are also absolutely horrifying and one of the most dangerous enemies Imperium has no real way to deal with.
 
Acacia Eocene said:
While the Brood may or may not be able to destroy the Flood spores, cultists are inventive and quite capable of building, stealing or even buying the kind of heavy weaponry which can harm a Gravemind.
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*shrug*

We seen flood spores over take genestealers
And tide is spreading into the hive foundations and pretty has partially turned the underhive into a flood formed ecosystem

Is not just flood infested zombies,the walls,the air,the animals etc,is all flood,and tide can simply make the spores hyper infectious (infect by touch on skin) at a single signal

Crippling anything without a hazmat suit

The cult has no means to exterminate tide

They just gave tide a distraction to avoid inquisitorial suspicion,played like a fidle

When the billion of mind slaved by the genestealer kiss come down the underhive,they will fins meat waves tactics of tyranids play stright into tide strenght
 
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Acacia Eocene said:
The point is not that the cult can directly cause the Exterminatus, but their actions could theoretically cause the Inquisitor to order it if she thinks the planet will be lost to the cult. It's a worst-case scenario, but not impossible.
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The inquisitor mentioned it has no exterminatus capabilities

And tide has begun working towards spreading into the foundations to avoid any "huve collapsing on my head" issue

Tide just has to buy time by coordinating the war effort of the altered (and using the chaos to infiltrate logistics and further spread itself),while basically farming the gene stealer cults for biomass in the underhive

Tide has already won,the inquisitor cant research tide,quarentine the hive and put down a sublevation simultaneously
 
Wonder if the mars boy and the inquisitor are just gonna pull a Godzilla/Kryptman and "Let them Fight" between the Tide Pods and the Jeanstealers. Or alternatively if they get the chanche, EXTERMINATUS
 
Acheroraptor said:
Wonder if the mars boy and the inquisitor are just gonna pull a Godzilla/Kryptman and "Let them Fight" between the Tide Pods and the Jeanstealers. Or alternatively if they get the chanche, EXTERMINATUS
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Well it depends? While their location was hardly the source of the worst of things, it's not unlikely that a few people are compromised in their city (and around the planet). Sabotage and assassinations might not give her much agency right now.

Honestly I'm more caught up in how the infected humans might react. Yeah, the main force of things are almost certainly going to be pure flood forms. But Tide has an ever increasing population he can subtly manipulate not to panic, hunker down, and buff up just enough so they might not die quite so easily.

Plus, I really enjoy the more.. low-key consequences of his actions, like Ellia the babby techpriest. Makes things a little closer to home than say, the fate of billions and planetwide fighting and.. well it's fun to read but not quite as relatable.
 
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Another way of looking at this is "New Exterminatus Weapon get". Because, if the Inquisition is correct(they are not), then this thing has a specific anti-alien bias. This means that they can carpet-bomb a planet of Xenos with this miracle chemical and both enhance the humans fighting on it and kill the aliens being fought.

Now they aren't right but I imagine that, for a lot of planets, it won't come up because if the Greekskin or even the Tyrranids are the ones getting bombed then it works in their favor...up until it suddenly stops working on the Tau or Eldar. By that point, it will have already spread to god knows how many planets and the Imperium has a few new problems
 
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god, if the nids are bad, the orks are gonna be *fun.*

an infinatly respawning hord of biomass vs the flood.

the orks may very well think the flood is a blessing from gork and mork.

...also nureal physics and/or eating enough orks may eventually be able to create a bootleg waagh field or something lmao.
 
One Autumn Leaf said:
Another way of looking at this is "New Exterminatus Weapon get". Because, if the Inquisition is correct(they are not), then this thing has a specific anti-alien bias. This means that they can carpet-bomb a planet of Xenos with this miracle chemical and both enhance the humans fighting on it and kill the aliens being fought.

Now they aren't right but I imagine that, for a lot of planets, it won't come up because if the Greekskin or even the Tyrranids are the ones getting bombed then it works in their favor...up until it suddenly stops working on the Tau or Eldar. By that point, it will have already spread to god knows how many planets and the Imperium has a few new problems
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Oh man the Eldar are going to have a stroke when they see what's going on with the Imperium and Flood. Just complete shut down and incoherent rambling out of pure rage and terror.
 
Shadowrobot6 said:
I just thought of something. Can tide make replicas of engineers? They are great at repairing things and look fairly non threatening.
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He could, though the talent of an engineer to repair things isn't really because of their physical form, nor would Tide be better at repairing stuff just by mimicking their form. Also, while I agree with you on the count that I think they're non-threatening in appearance... Well, we regularly get POV of Imperials who think the Tau are revolting in terms of appearance, how do you think they're going to react to something that looks truly alien?

shinkiro said:
...also nureal physics and/or eating enough orks may eventually be able to create a bootleg waagh field or something lmao.
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What I find hilarious about the Orks, possibly more than anything else, is the fact that their WAAAGH field abilities work better the dumber they are. For example, a group of Orks that boarded a Necron ship which, it should be noted, was completely empty of any trace of breathable atmosphere, were entirely fine because they just... didn't notice they were fighting in a vacuum.

Its really funny because this was likely not at all the intent by the Old Ones when making them. Because we've seen the stronger the Orks get the smarter they get as well. Krorks would be super intelligent, savants of battle and technology, but this would make them worse with their waaagh ability. Because a Krork would have realized the necron ships are unpressurized and died or been forced to create special equipment beforehand to deal with the problem.
 
You know, If Tide plays his cards right and learns more about what the inquisitor and the mechanics know and should his gravemind be discovered, he could feasibly pass himself off as a bio construct of the Pancea that is made from the minds of deceased humans as a way of preserving knowledge. Just south some Bullshit about how the previous mind was destroyed by xenos, and all of a sudden, the Cogboys will jump over themselves for him.
 
Shadowrobot6 said:
They would probably hate them. The Tau might like them though.
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AmbiguousAngle said:
You know, this makes me wonder. The Imperium has doubtlessly seen many, many aliens and alien-type things. They generally shred them and/or burn them. But this is a useful alien thing. A useful alien thing that can be used as a weapon against worse things. And one, that you pointed out, leaves souls alone. If our protagonist continues with a light touch, some modest improvements physically, and corpses as payment? I could seriously see them turning a blind eye to his alien nature, or even spin it as an emperor-given miracle.

That's not even taking into account the hinted possibilities of skill/memory sharing through dreams. Mandatory, effortless education.

Of course, the Imperium is gigantic and not a hive mind, so reactions will vary. But if nothing else, space makes for pretty good quarantine enforcement. Adopting a zero-tolerance mindset to keeping the infected away but still useful is a thing that might happen.
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Well... The Adeptus Mechanics do tolerate and work with the Jokaero?

A Xeno that look like Orangutans and have an Instinctive understanding of Technology, able to take it apart, repair and upgrade it.

So very much like the Huragok/Engineers really.
 
Jackson Fox said:
What I find hilarious about the Orks, possibly more than anything else, is the fact that their WAAAGH field abilities work better the dumber they are. For example, a group of Orks that boarded a Necron ship which, it should be noted, was completely empty of any trace of breathable atmosphere, were entirely fine because they just... didn't notice they were fighting in a vacuum.

Its really funny because this was likely not at all the intent by the Old Ones when making them. Because we've seen the stronger the Orks get the smarter they get as well. Krorks would be super intelligent, savants of battle and technology, but this would make them worse with their waaagh ability. Because a Krork would have realized the necron ships are unpressurized and died or been forced to create special equipment beforehand to deal with the problem.
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We don't know enough about them to ascertain that.
It's equally likely that they could consciously form the WAAAGH field for a variety of effects, personal shields, environmental or other wise, or forming impromptu weapons by substitution of necessary components by the WAAAGH field.
Which would likely also give all their equipment supernatural durability and redundancy.

The application of the WAAAGH field in the Orks is basically all subconscious and that step to consciuous control would be the greatest and most meaningful jump in power to differentiate them from the Krorks besides the access to more of the knowledge the old ones programmed into them.
 
Zoolimar said:
If you squint at them they kinda look like Enslavers. Which are psychic sapient warp predators badass enough to survive in the warp on their own and go around all over the galaxy eating people. They are also absolutely horrifying and one of the most dangerous enemies Imperium has no real way to deal with.
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Enslavers are terrifying they could apparently control the psychic creations of the Old Ones and were were responsible for wiping them out.
 
I do wonder if he could successfully cosplay as a human made bio-weapon with a human soul in charge? Prefall mankind did make a lot of insane crap.
 
That poor Inquisitor having everything go to hell that fast and with no warning, why a lot a powerful people that already hated her might be able to use this as an excuse to kill her if she can't fix Genestealer problem fast enough.
If only she had a convenient solution that would kill every Genestealer and leave her forces and any surviving civilians, and most importantly any industry unharmed.

Tide: …Why the fuck am I infecting an entire hive on the other side of the planet?
 
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