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The Eleventh Primarch (30K Quest)

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  • Informational

    • Drake Artorius

    Skills
    Governance (Level 4) = Legendary
    Diplomacy (Level 5) = Peerless
    Intrigue (Level 1) = Good
    Personal Combat (Level 4) = Legendary
    Ground Combat (Level 2) = Elite
    Naval Combat (Level 5) = Peerless
    Biomancy (Level 4) = Legendary
    Telepathy (Level 2) = Elite
    Divination (Level 2) = Elite
    Pyromancy (Level 2) = Elite
    Telekinesis (Level 2) = Elite
    Anathematic (Level 4) = Legendary
    Engineering (Level 4) = Legendary

    Traits
    Son of Excalibur = Drake Artorius is a true believer in the Federation of Bladus and the ideals that it stands for.
    Superhuman Charisma = Drake Artorius has inherited great charisma and persuasive ability from his progenitor.
    Little Anathema = Drake Artorius has an echo of his progenitor's antithetical nature to the Ruinous Powers. Immunity to Chaos, Minor Bonus to resisting Chaos for those around you.
    -Hated By Khorne = The Lord of Blood holds a special dislike for Drake Artorius and he and his servants will actively seek to claim his skull for the skull throne.
    -Hated by Slaanesh = The Prince of Pleasure holds a special dislike for Drake Artorius and they and their servants will actively seek to slay him wherever they can.
    Necron Knowledge = Drake Artorius made extensive study of the Necrons, the modern day legacy of the ancient Necrontyr. Major Bonus to fighting Necron forces & Minor Bonus to other interactions with Necron factions.
    Asuryani Knowledge = Drake Artorius has made complete study of the Craftworld Aeldari, the Asuryani. Major Bonus to fighting Asuryani forces & Major Bonus to other interactions with Asuryani factions.
    Drukhari Knowledge = Drake Artorius made some study of the Drukhari, the vile pirates and raiders of Commorragh. Minor Bonus to fighting Drukhari forces & Minor Bonus to other interactions with Drukhari factions.
    Aeldari Knowledge = Drake Artorius has made complete study of the minor Aeldari groups such as the Exodites, the Corsairs and the Harlequins. Major Bonus to fighting Aeldari forces & Major Bonus to other interactions with Aeldari factions
    Mechanicus Knowledge = Drake Artorius has made extensive study of the Mechanicus and its successor factions. Major Bonus to fighting Mechanicus forces & Minor Bonus to other interactions with Mechanicus factions.

    Preferences
    Passionate
    Divination
    Telepathy
    Biomancy

    Liked
    Personal Combat
    Naval Combat
    Pyromancy
    Telekinesis

    Interested
    Governance
    Engineering

    Not Interested
    Diplomacy
    Intrigue

    Disliked
    Ground Combat

    Hated
    None
     
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    • Since we have been discussing it on Discord, I'll say it here. If Drake didn't think that using strike teams would work and he could pull it off, it wouldn't be an option. In his professional opinion, Drake considers strike teams to be a valid if risky way of stopping the ritual.
    Dmol8 said:
    Also could we use strike teams to narrow down the targeting of the Orbital Bombardment so it is not as ruinous?
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    At the point, you might as well have the strike teams deal with it. To be clear, orbital bombardment is the option that deliberately chooses the swiftest solution at the cost of maximum loss of innocent life. Trying to exchange speed in exchange for reduced deaths goes against it.
     
    [X] Strike Teams. Bel and Yas both wish to send strike teams to the ritual locations to eliminate it at the source and deal with the ritual without extreme loss of innocent life. However, doing so is riskier and potentially more dangerous than a quick end to the ritual.

    What is life without a little risk?
     
    Since I told folks on Discord, an important factor that is being missed both there and here in the thread is who is presenting the options and why they are supporting that option.
     
    [X] Strike Teams. Bel and Yas both wish to send strike teams to the ritual locations to eliminate it at the source and deal with the ritual without extreme loss of innocent life. However, doing so is riskier and potentially more dangerous than a quick end to the ritual.
     
    [x] Strike Teams. Bel and Yas both wish to send strike teams to the ritual locations to eliminate it at the source and deal with the ritual without extreme loss of innocent life. However, doing so is riskier and potentially more dangerous than a quick end to the ritual.

    Let's not do the hard men making hard decisions thing.
     
    ReaderJohn said:
    The Jens might divorce Drake if we go along with the bombardment.
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    That's the least of our worries. We know they are very against this. They might directly contradict our orders, which can cause us a lot of trouble in many ways. First of all, I would expect them to be court martialled, I really doubt the Federation would be too thrilled about two Alpha psychers going rogue, and in that case Drake would have to choose between them and his duty in putting them down. Secondly, if they go in without support, the chances something goes wrong groundside drastically increase.

    Another concern is also our reputation, the Federation is not the Imperium, they are a democracy that is not in the habit of conducting wholesale genocide on the enemy. We could also get in a lot of trouble with going along with the Eldar.
     
    [x] Strike Teams. Bel and Yas both wish to send strike teams to the ritual locations to eliminate it at the source and deal with the ritual without extreme loss of innocent life. However, doing so is riskier and potentially more dangerous than a quick end to the ritual.
     
    [X] Orbital Bombardment. Autarch Oraranel advocates for a swift and decisive end to the threat by bombarding all ritual locations. Unfortunately those locations are all in major cities and the imprecise nature of orbital firesupport combined with lacking accurate coordinates means you are looking at excessive collateral damage.
     
    [X] Strike Teams. Bel and Yas both wish to send strike teams to the ritual locations to eliminate it at the source and deal with the ritual without extreme loss of innocent life. However, doing so is riskier and potentially more dangerous than a quick end to the ritual.
     
    [X] Strike Teams. Bel and Yas both wish to send strike teams to the ritual locations to eliminate it at the source and deal with the ritual without extreme loss of innocent life. However, doing so is riskier and potentially more dangerous than a quick end to the ritual.

    1 primarch, 2 alpha level psykers and the absolute elite members of the military. I reckon we've got a decent chance of winning without committing genocide
     
    "We are not going to kill a planet full of innocent people," replies Yasmin as she glares at him, radiating anger."

    "You have no doubt that Autarch Oraranel wishes to simply dismiss the protests of your wife, but he is smart enough to know that her opinion does hold sway here. "

    Just a reminder that our wives are not on board with genocide. And I have little doubt they would contradict our orders.
     
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    [X] Strike Teams. Bel and Yas both wish to send strike teams to the ritual locations to eliminate it at the source and deal with the ritual without extreme loss of innocent life. However, doing so is riskier and potentially more dangerous than a quick end to the ritual.

    Let's not take a dive onto the slippery slope.
     
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    IronFist said:
    Let's not take a dive onto the slippery slope.
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    Technically this would be the second step on the morality slope, vat born military personnel was the first

    Edit: Fuck it
    [X] Strike Teams. Bel and Yas both wish to send strike teams to the ritual locations to eliminate it at the source and deal with the ritual without extreme loss of innocent life. However, doing so is riskier and potentially more dangerous than a quick end to the ritual
     
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    [X] Orbital Bombardment. Autarch Oraranel advocates for a swift and decisive end to the threat by bombarding all ritual locations. Unfortunately those locations are all in major cities and the imprecise nature of orbital firesupport combined with lacking accurate coordinates means you are looking at excessive collateral damage.
     
    [X] Strike Teams. Bel and Yas both wish to send strike teams to the ritual locations to eliminate it at the source and deal with the ritual without extreme loss of innocent life. However, doing so is riskier and potentially more dangerous than a quick end to the ritual.

    I think we all need to remember that it is the eldar, a race who give absolutely zero shits on mon-keigh lives that are advocating orbital bombardment. As a primarch, we should try to do better especially if we can still stop it
     
    [X] Strike Teams. Bel and Yas both wish to send strike teams to the ritual locations to eliminate it at the source and deal with the ritual without extreme loss of innocent life. However, doing so is riskier and potentially more dangerous than a quick end to the ritual.
     
    [X] Strike Teams. Bel and Yas both wish to send strike teams to the ritual locations to eliminate it at the source and deal with the ritual without extreme loss of innocent life. However, doing so is riskier and potentially more dangerous than a quick end to the ritual.

    Genociding billions is disgusting.
     
    [X] Orbital Bombardment. Autarch Oraranel advocates for a swift and decisive end to the threat by bombarding all ritual locations. Unfortunately those locations are all in major cities and the imprecise nature of orbital firesupport combined with lacking accurate coordinates means you are looking at excessive collateral damage.

    Higher initial collateral cost is far better than risking the possibility of an entire planet being lost to chaos in my eyes
     
    Even Stevens right now
    Adhoc vote count started by nat_401 on Feb 4, 2023 at 10:16 AM, finished with 39 posts and 24 votes.
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    nat_401 said:
    Technically this would be the second step on the morality slope, vat born military personnel was the first
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    True, in a way.

    But at least, the ethics of the previous vote were less cut and dry.
    Less Permanent, in a way.

    You can stop making new vatborn, give them a lot of therapy and reintegrate them in normal society.

    You can't un-incinerate billions of uninvolved civilians.
    Listen to the wifes. (Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. Except, in our case it's two women being scorned simultaneously)
     
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    wow I was not expecting the taking of the shipyards to go so well
    [x] Strike Teams. Bel and Yas both wish to send strike teams to the ritual locations to eliminate it at the source and deal with the ritual without extreme loss of innocent life. However, doing so is riskier and potentially more dangerous than a quick end to the ritual.

    I think Drake's Anathematic skill will come in handy here
     
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