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The Dragon Has Three Heads - ASOIAF Quest

What are the end goal(s) of this quest?

  • Retake the Iron Throne.

    Votes: 36 14.0%

  • Destroy the White Walkers.

    Votes: 44 17.1%

  • Rebuild fallen Valyria.

    Votes: 43 16.7%

  • Create a new empire, forget the past and forge your own destiny.

    Votes: 74 28.7%

  • Survive. Who needs a crown?

    Votes: 24 9.3%

  • Utter domination. You are the Dragon and will not rest until you rule over all!

    Votes: 29 11.2%

  • Become the wisest of the wise. A true Loremaster. Learn the magics of old and converse with Gods.

    Votes: 40 15.5%

  • Forbidden Power - Why speak with the Gods when you can BECOME one of them?

    Votes: 64 24.8%

  • Immortality - The problem with Aegon the Conqueror is that he died. You will not.

    Votes: 79 30.6%
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    At this time I am using a counter system, listing the number of days votes take to be put into action. However for write-in votes you don't know how many days an action may take. For this we will use the old system of Major/Minor Decisions, and I will tell you how many days/weeks/months the plan will take. Remember that every month has 28 days, and that there are 13 months in the year with New Years as a special day alone outside the months. There is no leap year, as their calendar is not accurate to that degree.

    Major decisions are any new endeavors. Finding new investments. Finding new allies (specify what type, where you're looking if possible, what you want from them, etc) finding new trainers, starting new training even if it is with people you already know... Anything new.

    No mixing something that would qualify as a minor decision or free action into your major votes! If you have a question about your votes, ask me.

    Talking with specific people about specific subjects. You can generally only talk with one person at a time with this. There are simple logical exceptions, Husband & Wife combos can be put together as one conversation, brother & sister, stuff like that. I'll clarify if a combo is unacceptable when I see the vote. This is also for continuing any long term action. Any major decision that you have already voted to start (not just mused about in-story) can be a minor action the next time around. Continuing training that you have already begun for example. Continuing a long-term investigation or plot. Stuff like this.

    Making small talk with characters. You will not learn anything special really, but it gives you more insight into their backgrounds and history, can raise/lower their loyalty or other relationship points with you, etc. Raising/lowering and how much depends on rolls.

    These can interrupt any current action(s) and will take precedence over the current plan. A way to change things on the fly as you discover new information or alternate ways to potentially enhance your plan, or change it completely if needed.

    Remember for all votes if you take a guard or other individual with you, you will need to write-in which guard/person you take with you (just saying take a guard or ally will leave the decision of which one up to me) and also whether Daenerys tries to use any future knowledge on the decision as well if it is one of hers or she is present. (She still may decide to try and use her future knowledge without your consent if she thinks it necessary.) These details are sub-votes.

    [] [Plan] X (Current Month, Short Term, Long Term, Immediate Actions, Purchases, etc.)
    -[] Major Decisions: Character name here
    --[] Major Decision 1
    ---[] Sub-conditions of Major Decision 1
    ---[] Sub-conditions of Major Decision 1
    --[] Major Decision 2
    ---[] Sub-conditions of Major Decision 2
    ---[] Sub-conditions of Major Decision 2
    -[] Minor Decisions: Character name here
    --[] Minor Decision 1
    ---[] Sub-conditions of Minor Decision 1
    ---[] Sub-conditions of Minor Decision 1
    --[] Minor Decision 2
    -[] Free Actions: Character name here
    --[] Free Action 1
    ---[] Sub-conditions
    --[] Free Action 2
    ---[] Sub-conditions

    You get the jist of this.

    However, under the plan vote, you will then put a "Priority" Vote.

    [] Aegon Priority: 1. Major Decision 1, 2. Free Action 2, 3. Minor Decision 1, 4. Major Decision 2, etc.
    [] Daenerys Priority: 1. Free Action 2, 2. Major Decision 3, 3. Minor Decision 1, etc.

    This way we can vote on the general plan, then I can separate the order of events in said plan.

    Don't put V1, V2, or any other such revision information into your plan. Just leave it like I have it. Nothing extra. The tally system will update to your newest post. No need to make version markers. It just makes things harder for me.

    If an action in a plan is not one for a specific character, more a general idea of what needs to be done, it will still need to go into the priority matrix.

    At the end of all your votes, put your reasons explaining your vote choice. As I've said before, a plan with reasons will get more weight than one without. Because reasons matter. I care about reasons more than numbers. I need reasons to help build the characters. Get used to putting reasons into your plans, as eventually reasons will become a requirement rather than a suggestion. This post will change when that occurs.

    [] [Plan] X

    You may (but are not required to) put additional reasons to agree with that plan beneath your vote if there are reasons for it that the original vote creator didn't put in that you thought of. The more/better the reasoning inside explaining a vote, the greater the chance it will be added into the story.

    Votes are typically closed after either 12 or 24 hours unless real life interferes. Ties will be either decided by me, or by whoever is in the forum or the Discord that has not voted already at the time. I will @ whoever is currently in the forum or Discord that I choose to be the tiebreaker.

    Plans have specific timelines. Immediate Actions are obviously immediate. Current Month is similarly self-explanatory. Short Term is something that can conceivably be done within 1-3 months, and Long Term is 3-6 months.
     
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    • [X] Aegon & Daenerys Targaryen - While you have no access to the Iron Throne account, not being the current holder of that title; your family may have some private accounts of their own that you can gain access to.

    No need to destabilize our claim. We can get our hands on Blackfyre later on by other means, like buying off the GC or marrying a female Blackfyre heir or something. Their male line is dead. The Aegon the Conquerer heirloom would really help support our legitimacy.
    NúmenoreanNazgûl threw 1 100-faced dice. Reason: Vault Loot Total: 89
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    For anyone else who is still reading, I would like to make a pitch for trying to go for the both option.

    Not only does it give us the chance to use some of the good rolls we got earlier, the 1 not withstanding, which would allow us to potentially access the Blackfyre and Targaryen accounts, but it also allows us to remain under the radar somewhat. As the option says, our identity is not that well known, and gong for subterfuge here is just another layer of security for us. While we should be proud of our name, we also need to be pragmatic. Being able to co-opt the Blackfyre name, getting their accounts, as well as their connections to the Golden Company would be helpful in whatever endeavor we try to pursue while we are here on Essos. We don't really need to both be Targaryens here as we only need one to access the accounts they have, and Dany seems to fit the bill here.

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    [X] Aegon & Daenerys Targaryen - While you have no access to the Iron Throne account, not being the current holder of that title; your family may have some private accounts of their own that you can gain access to.

    No need to destabilize our claim. We can get our hands on Blackfyre later on by other means, like buying off the GC or marrying a female Blackfyre heir or something. Their male line is dead. The Aegon the Conquerer heirloom would really help support our legitimacy.
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    Considering what has been implied I don't either of those will be easy to accomplish. We don't have any definitive knowledge about there being not only a Blackfyre heir from the female line but that the heir is indeed female to allow us to so easily get the Golden Company on our side. When it comes to buying their services, I don't it will be that easy if we declare ourselves as a Targaryen due to the history that would come with it. We already have the chance to gain items and boons from both vaults at the moment, and the question of the legitimacy of our claim could easily be addressed if we take Dany for a wife. While this decision may seem non-consequential at the moment, it is in my opinion a very important one as it not only helps establish our newfound identity but also helps to determine how much we start out with. The rolls we have garnered so far are mostly good, I think it would be worth it to try to get both vaults early on rather than doubling down.
     
    [X] Aegon & Daenerys Targaryen - While you have no access to the Iron Throne account, not being the current holder of that title; your family may have some private accounts of their own that you can gain access to.
     
    [X] Aegon & Daenerys Targaryen - While you have no access to the Iron Throne account, not being the current holder of that title; your family may have some private accounts of their own that you can gain access to.

    In the Dance of the Dragons, a quarter of Viserys I's treasury was deposited in the Iron Bank, and there's no mention anywhere of it ever having been withdrawn. While I don't know if QM is factoring that in, it could make a neat chunk of change.
     
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    [X] Aegon & Daenerys Targaryen - While you have no access to the Iron Throne account, not being the current holder of that title; your family may have some private accounts of their own that you can gain access to.
    Saevin23 threw 1 100-faced dice. Reason: Saevin23 Total: 81
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    [X] Aegon & Daenerys Targaryen - While you have no access to the Iron Throne account, not being the current holder of that title; your family may have some private accounts of their own that you can gain access to.
    marackomarac33 threw 1 100-faced dice. Reason: Reasons Total: 93
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    Everyone - It has come to my attention that somehow the fourth option in this voting block was not showing up for some of you. This fourth option is to attempt to claim both the Blackfyre and Targaryen accounts and all that comes with that. Normally I'd just give a few extra hours, however due to the sheer importance of this particular vote I am extending the time before I close it to write the next segment.

    I seriously advise reloading, looking to see all four options (five if you count the write-in block) as well as consider the arguments that have come up since the last segment, as well as present some of your own. This decision will have long ranging consequences both in your face as well as behind the scenes. Quite a few MAJOR plot points come from this singular node in time.

    To use Star Wars terminology, this would be a Shatterpoint.

    Consider your votes VERY carefully. Story is on hold until I feel comfortable that everyone has had the chance to see ALL their options and change or stay the same as they decide. Again, there are undercurrents to this event beyond the obvious. Think it through.
     
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    blackshadow111 said:
    Say...How do I roll dice in this? I missed that in my vote, and I think I'll try to delete and re-vote.
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    First, you don't need to delete. The vote system will look only at your newest vote. As for rolling die, once you have posted just look down near the "Quote" and "Reply" buttons. You'll see "More Options". If you don't see it refresh the page a few times. There will be a roll dice option. Change the "Face" from 6 to 100 for this vote and roll.
     
    Lunasmeow said:
    First, you don't need to delete. The vote system will look only at your newest vote. As for rolling die, once you have posted just look down near the "Quote" and "Reply" buttons. You'll see "More Options". If you don't see it refresh the page a few times. There will be a roll dice option. Change the "Face" from 6 to 100 for this vote and roll.
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    Thanks. Doing it now.

    [X] Aegon & Daenerys Targaryen - While you have no access to the Iron Throne account, not being the current holder of that title; your family may have some private accounts of their own that you can gain access to.

    In the Dance of the Dragons, a quarter of Viserys I's treasury was deposited in the Iron Bank, and there's no mention anywhere of it ever having been withdrawn. While I don't know if QM is factoring that in, it could make a neat chunk of change.

    Edit: should've bloody well left it alone...
    blackshadow111 threw 1 100-faced dice. Reason: Reasons Total: 13
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    blackshadow111 said:
    In the Dance of the Dragons, a quarter of Viserys I's treasury was deposited in the Iron Bank, and there's no mention anywhere of it ever having been withdrawn. While I don't know if QM is factoring that in, it could make a neat chunk of change.

    Edit: should've bloody well left it alone...
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    Since it was mentioned, I will answer and say that yes, I am factoring part of Viserys I's treasury being deposited. Since there was already an Iron Bank account for the Iron Throne (I would assume so anyway) I am assuming that he put this into a personal account. Since the personal account is under the Targaryen name, Robert cannot access it for use in paying off his now indebited Iron Throne account. That treasury is safe. It has depleted somewhat with time, (not much) since there are fees associated with using the bank. (This isn't a modern banking system, investing into the bank yields rewards, but you are paying for them to keep your money safe - you could keep it safe yourself, but they are your "insurance" and no one has handled the account in a long time.)

    As for low rolls, I'm not doing high low here. It is simply a matter of getting high enough to get the bonus item in the vault(s). The low rolls matter not.
     
    [X] Aegon & Daenerys Targaryen - While you have no access to the Iron Throne account, not being the current holder of that title; your family may have some private accounts of their own that you can gain access to.

    I don't think that claiming to be a Blackfyre will be a good idea. Most likely when the truth comes out the Golden Co. will be at odds with us for our lies, which will put us in a very precarious standing with them.

    I think it is more like, if we choose Blackfyre we may recieve more goodies from the start, but we are weakening our claim to the throne. While potentially angering the Golden Co. later on.

    For the Aegon & Daenerys Targaryen choice we will keep the strenght of our claim, even better we will get a better claim if we get something from Aegon the conqueror thanks to our lineage and not Daenerys, not mentioning we will not anger Viserys by abandoning our family name, which he may see as a sin.
    HugoR threw 1 100-faced dice. Reason: For Reanons Total: 80
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    HugoR said:
    I don't think that claiming to be a Blackfyre will be a good idea. Most likely when the truth comes out the Golden Co. will be at odds with us for our lies, which will put us in a very precarious standing with them.
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    Honestly it would be hard to prove that we aren't a Blackfyre. The Targaryens must have sent a ridiculous amount of assassins after the Blackfyres, so it makes sense for them to stay hidden. The Blackfyres have been in Essos for centuries now. It would have been trivial for a line of Blackfyres to stay hidden as backup in case Maelys I Blackfyre fell in combat.

    Plus the Golden Company are, at the end of the day sellswords. So the Blackfyres aren't gonna trust them completely to prevent treachery from wiping out their entire line.


    Getting the Valyrian swords Blackfyre and Dark Sister would be a huge boost for us. It would legitimise us in the eyes of both Targaryen and Blackfyre supporters. Both those swords are probably in an Iron Bank vault.
     
    [X] Daemon Blackfyre & Daenerys Targaryen - While you are a proud Targaryen, your identity is not known by many, and subterfuge has already paid off once. Dany's identity is known though. Maybe you can get the Golden Co. AND any family heirlooms.
    McLuvin threw 1 100-faced dice. Reason: Reasons... Total: 14
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    [X] Daemon Blackfyre & Daenerys Targaryen - While you are a proud Targaryen, your identity is not known by many, and subterfuge has already paid off once. Dany's identity is known though. Maybe you can get the Golden Co. AND any family heirlooms.

    Although this might somewhat diminish our stake on the Throne I think it might be better to get whatever benefits we can now. Plus we can always marry Daenerys to legitimise any problems
    MasterG threw 1 100-faced dice. Reason: Reasons Total: 64
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    Galerius said:
    Could we pay the Iron Bank to get those swords? Or would that be a breach of trust?
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    The Iron Bank is not bought, unless it is buying out someone who has not honored their debts to the bank. The Targaryen line is still paying (from the money stored there) and so is the Golden Company. Both are in good standing and will not face auctioning off.
    Adhoc vote count started by Lunasmeow on Aug 18, 2017 at 9:21 AM, finished with 67 posts and 28 votes.
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    MasterG said:
    Although this might somewhat diminish our stake on the Throne I think it might be better to get whatever benefits we can now. Plus we can always marry Daenerys to legitimise any problems
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    Even if me marry Daenerys, Viserys will still have a better claim than we do. We won't be a Targaryan anymore, even with the support of Daenery and Viserys we still be pretender, never have a Blackfyre sat at the Iron Throne.
     
    Feel free to ask me questions about any assumptions you may have. Some things I may answer, some I will not, but better to make judgments with facts rather than rumor. As best you can anyway.
     
    HugoR said:
    Even if me marry Daenerys, Viserys will still have a better claim than we do. We won't be a Targaryan anymore, even with the support of Daenery and Viserys we still be pretender, never have a Blackfyre sat at the Iron Throne.
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    Ehhh... Some of one, some of the other. And I wouldn't assume as much as you do. Never did a Baratheon sit the Iron Throne, until suddenly Robert ran his rebellion. Other rebellions happened before, and still the throne went to the Targaryen successor. Robert was the first to say "fuck that" and kill all possible inheritors instead so he could be king. Firsts happen. It just might have to happen differently than expected. Whether it would be easier or harder who can say? (Other than me of course ;p.) Ask the right questions and you'll get the right answers.
     
    Getting Dark Sister from the GC...that will be a trick. 'Cuz, y'know, it's either at Castle Black or tangled up somewhere in Bloodraven's roots...
     
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