IIRC, the issue is they're made of the wrong stuff, so if we wanted to make a kaiju into a raubtier we would have to replace basically all of it.
That seems...off. I guess they're more biological, but I can see methods of working around that. I was mostly just thinking of removing their thinky bits and wiring a Con-Pod or AI core in. We clearly understand circuit-to-nerve interfaces to some degree. Otherwise our prosthetics wouldn't be as good as they are. It's just a matter of adapting that to Kaiju biology. It'd be mostly meat-based, true, but Kaiju are pretty much treated, built, and designed like machines by the Precursors anyway. Particularly the Blade-Class, which seem to basically be the non-Seijin equivalents to Jaegers.
The main issue is that deploying the Naval forces locks us into a route that follows the coastline more closely and slows our advance a bit. This isn't necessarily bad and depending on how far into the future this is the number of Murasame-Class ships we can bring might justify it. They certainly move a bit faster than Phenom as he is now, but I'd rather wait until a bit closer to make a final judgement.

Hell, even the Quetzal/Fafnirs might be replaced by some other unit depending on how Research goes and on our budget for the Operation. Those two are expensive at 1500 apiece, enough to build three Hellhounds or two-and-a-half Banshees. Depending on how the math goes we might be better served by spamming Helicopters and grouping together two or three squads into one unit for easier command, espeically because the Quetzals can only fire Hellfire+ missiles right now.

Hell, if we do go along with the Crusade then I might as well go all out and make a grid map for easier command, since commanding things, putting them in their proper places and moving them around without making mistakes was absolutely the most annoying part of that Op.

There's a lot to look into and many preparations to be done.
Agreed. That said, naval forces are something we should consider. The Murasames are excellent weapons platforms, and, in our upcoming salvage operations, we may find hulls, or even fairly intact models of various ships, including attack and nuclear submarines. Our naval forces are probably only going to improve, and they can mount heavier weapons more easily than our airforce.

If we get a supercarrier, it would give us vastly increased potential for carrying units into the fight. Any modern aircraft carrier would likely have an nuclear reactor powering it, one that needs refueling once every several decades, and thus wouldn't require refueling part-way there. It would also have substantial aircraft fuel reserves, so it could likely refuel our Megas and Carry-Alls on the way back. And it would free them up to carry back more Jaegers. Hell, maybe even some Kaiju corpses.
Given the Morays can currently engage only foes beneath or on the surface of the water, I'm taking this as a hint that there will be an Underwater Kaiju on the Bay next time we visit or that we can research a way for them to fire at targets on land. Possibly both.

And hey, modern subs can fit over a hundred VLS cells so we might be able to fit a couple on a modified Moray.
Morays would also allow us to better scout the bay, particularly to check and see if there are any other Kaiju than Riptide lurking under the water there, waiting to ambush us.
 
That seems...off. I guess they're more biological, but I can see methods of working around that. I was mostly just thinking of removing their thinky bits and wiring a Con-Pod or AI core in. We clearly understand circuit-to-nerve interfaces to some degree. Otherwise our prosthetics wouldn't be as good as they are. It's just a matter of adapting that to Kaiju biology. It'd be mostly meat-based, true, but Kaiju are pretty much treated, built, and designed like machines by the Precursors anyway. Particularly the Blade-Class, which seem to basically be the non-Seijin equivalents to Jaegers.
Actually, making a valid Pons equivalent for piloting the mostly meatware body is one of the pre-reqs for getting Jaegers, so the implication is that we kinda aren't there yet.
Construction of a Bio-Jaeger would require:
- Silicon-based biomass (ideally Seijin in nature, due to their low toxicity and biomechanical design-- but if a synthetic version could be grown, that'd work as well)
- "Life support" (a means of keeping the tissue alive and functioning, as well as a plan for healing damage)
- A control system (either laying down artificial nerves, hijacking preexisting ones, or both. Could also include suppression of neural activity, if a secondary brain is present)
- Alterations to the Pons to work with any still-present kaiju/seijin nervous systems (due to the differences in mental and physiological structures)
- Consideration of the organic elements in the rest of its design (armour, weapons, equipment, modifications, etc. would have to fit with it)
Personally, I'm trying to approach these roughly in the order they appear, as that seems a good order of priorities. (Get the meatware, keep the meatware alive, then try to figure out how to hook it up to a computer and make it go.)
 
Actually, making a valid Pons equivalent for piloting the mostly meatware body is one of the pre-reqs for getting Jaegers, so the implication is that we kinda aren't there yet.

Personally, I'm trying to approach these roughly in the order they appear, as that seems a good order of priorities. (Get the meatware, keep the meatware alive, then try to figure out how to hook it up to a computer and make it go.)
Sounds like something to pursue while we're expanding. That's a lot of research that's needed before implementation, which isn't a bad thing when we're throwing all the Resources we can at something else.

Also, while I can't find anything about Anaklusmos coming after us, the Cat IV we didn't kill is apparently looking for us, since we killed her sister. I don't know how frightened we should be, exactly. That said, there are other Sword Kaiju running around. And it's been a while since Fyrstorm the Precursors sent any our way. So I wouldn't be shocked to see one in the near future. Possibly to kick off the new thread with a bang.
 
Sounds like something to pursue while we're expanding. That's a lot of research that's needed before implementation, which isn't a bad thing when we're throwing all the Resources we can at something else.
Why do you think I wanted to make a K-sci lab? :p

Also, while I can't find anything about Anaklusmos coming after us, the Cat IV we didn't kill is apparently looking for us, since we killed her sister. I don't know how frightened we should be, exactly. That said, there are other Sword Kaiju running around. And it's been a while since Fyrstorm the Precursors sent any our way. So I wouldn't be shocked to see one in the near future. Possibly to kick off the new thread with a bang.
You guys do know that I'm eventually going to have you fight Anaklusmos again sometime, right? I've put far too much work into him to scrap the guy-- so eventually, I expect you guys to head back to Oblivion, or I'm going to throw the Evangelion ripoff at your city, Rutherford Field and everything. Besides, he's plot-relevant.

But don't worry. You won't be getting another Blade-Class for quite some time.
 
Agreed. That said, naval forces are something we should consider. The Murasames are excellent weapons platforms, and, in our upcoming salvage operations, we may find hulls, or even fairly intact models of various ships, including attack and nuclear submarines. Our naval forces are probably only going to improve, and they can mount heavier weapons more easily than our airforce.

If we get a supercarrier, it would give us vastly increased potential for carrying units into the fight. Any modern aircraft carrier would likely have an nuclear reactor powering it, one that needs refueling once every several decades, and thus wouldn't require refueling part-way there. It would also have substantial aircraft fuel reserves, so it could likely refuel our Megas and Carry-Alls on the way back. And it would free them up to carry back more Jaegers. Hell, maybe even some Kaiju corpses.
Morays would also allow us to better scout the bay, particularly to check and see if there are any other Kaiju than Riptide lurking under the water there, waiting to ambush us.
I'm all for scouting the Bay with Morays as well as Condors, that's a great idea by the way, but I feel it's still far away enough that we can't be sure of how future Research might affect our force composition and any intel we get now would be useless unless we make a habit of Scouting the Bay every week.

I do like the idea of looking for Aircraft Carrier wrecks. Speaking of wrecks, what do you think are the chances we'll find an old Submarine along the coast? I know we have the Morays, but they're very small compared to a full-sized Sub.

I also want to look into Arsenal Ships and good 'ol Battleships in the future. Someone will have to take charge of the Navy while Admiral @Space Jawa is on leave. :V
 
Well, yeah, but you've already made plans for your second Oblivion operation, so I don't need to worry about throwing Anaklusmos at your city anymore.
 
nice now all we have to do is keep rescheduling the date for the Second Crusade and we'll never have to fight Anaklusmos :V
Oh, of course.

I mean, that won't stop Arondight, Skofnung, Clarent, Susanoo Totsuka, Chrysaor, or any of the other Blade Class, but at least you won't be fighting Anaklusmos.

:p

Edit: fixed the goddamn name.
 
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That's a God. First Cat VI confirmed? :V
To be honest, I don't properly research half the names I come up with for my giant monsters (for Susie, I basically went "that's related to that one guy with a sword who cut off Orochi's heads, right?" and left it at that until today). Besides, Vulcan was named after a god, and he was only a Cat III, so don't expect names to always correlate to power level or anything.
 
...I honestly don't know how I missed that. Well, we're planning on heading back at some point. Also, it's been almost a year since then. I think we're about due for a Sword-Class.
I'm all for scouting the Bay with Morays as well as Condors, that's a great idea by the way, but I feel it's still far away enough that we can't be sure of how future Research might affect our force composition and any intel we get now would be useless unless we make a habit of Scouting the Bay every week.

I do like the idea of looking for Aircraft Carrier wrecks. Speaking of wrecks, what do you think are the chances we'll find an old Submarine along the coast? I know we have the Morays, but they're very small compared to a full-sized Sub.
Pretty damn good, IMO. Sub hulls are durable, and part of Kitsap was a major submarine base. Like, it had facilities for simulating a hull-leaking sub, to test potential crew. One of the two bases combined to make Kitsap was a submarine yard (nuclear and otherwise) and submarine training base.
I also want to look into Arsenal Ships and good 'ol Battleships in the future. Someone will have to take charge of the Navy while Admiral @Space Jawa is on leave. :V
Internally: "I am so out of my f*cking depth."
Externally: "I could probably handle that. Much as I hate to admit it, my crews know their job, and my administrative minions can handle the paperwork just fine without me. I'm still not sure why they like that title better than "assistant". I've studied a decent amount of Naval history, and what data we have on modern vessels and their design specs. I've also read up on the files on the local stations and bases. If there's someone with better qualifications, I'll gladly give the post to them, and return to my job of organizing the lunatics who clean up monster guts. But I should be capable enough not to sink the entire fleet....Unless the fleet somehow ends up being composed of only submarines. Then it should probably sink during combat."

OoC: I am genuinely interested in the Navy, and I have been the one doing the research on Kitsap. If anyone else wants it, I'll yield, though. Also, I insist on being referred to as "Rear-Admiral". Which is both a joke on multiple layers, ranging from mildly clever to childish, and a nod to the position not being permanent. For those wondering, the mildly clever joke is that I'm almost certain to be leading from the rear, during most fights.

Edit: For perspective, my character is a chemistry major (with generalist tendencies) who never actually officially got his degree because of the apocalypse. He somehow ended up rising to the lead position in Kaiju Clean-up, and the Council. He's still not entirely sure how and why he got there, and is perpetually bemused that anyone would take orders from him or put him in a position of power.

I meant to outline this in an omake I never ended up posting, due to lack of confidence.
 
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...I honestly don't know how I missed that. Well, we're planning on heading back at some point. Also, it's been almost a year since then. I think we're about due for a Sword-Class.

Pretty damn good, IMO. Sub hulls are durable, and part of Kitsap was a major submarine base. Like, it had facilities for simulating a hull-leaking sub, to test potential crew. One of the two bases combined to make Kitsap was a submarine yard (nuclear and otherwise) and submarine training base.

Internally: "I am so out of my f*cking depth."
Externally: "I could probably handle that. Much as I hate to admit it, my crews know their job, and my administrative minions can handle the paperwork just fine without me. I'm still not sure why they like that title better than "assistant". I've studied a decent amount of Naval history, and what data we have on modern vessels and their design specs. I've also read up on the files on the local stations and bases. If there's someone with better qualifications, I'll gladly give the post to them, and return to my job of organizing the lunatics who clean up monster guts. But I should be capable enough not to sink the entire fleet....Unless the fleet somehow ends up being composed of only submarines. Then it should probably sink during combat."

OoC: I am genuinely interested in the Navy, and I have been the one doing the research on Kitsap. If anyone else wants it, I'll yield, though. Also, I insist on being referred to as "Rear-Admiral". Which is both a joke on multiple layers, ranging from mildly clever to childish, and a nod to the position not being permanent. For those wondering, the mildly clever joke is that I'm almost certain to be leading from the rear, during most fights.

Edit: For perspective, my character is a chemistry major (with generalist tendencies) who never actually officially got his degree because of the apocalypse. He somehow ended up rising to the lead position in Kaiju Clean-up, and the Council. He's still not entirely sure how and why he got there, and is perpetually bemused that anyone would take orders from him or put him in a position of power.
congratulations due to literally no one having the qualifications necessary you win on basis of first come first serve
 
Internally: "I am so out of my f*cking depth."
Externally: "I could probably handle that. Much as I hate to admit it, my crews know their job, and my administrative minions can handle the paperwork just fine without me. I'm still not sure why they like that title better than "assistant". I've studied a decent amount of Naval history, and what data we have on modern vessels and their design specs. I've also read up on the files on the local stations and bases. If there's someone with better qualifications, I'll gladly give the post to them, and return to my job of organizing the lunatics who clean up monster guts. But I should be capable enough not to sink the entire fleet....Unless the fleet somehow ends up being composed of only submarines. Then it should probably sink during combat."
The General levels his gaze at the younger man before him. Like a mountain rising due to geologic forces, his right eyebrow is rises from behind his Aviators. The smoke from his cigar only enhances the impression.

The man takes a slow drag, savoring the now-luxurious commodity before taking it in his hand and expelling the smoke.

"I'll be honest," The General says. "I was just shooting some ideas to hear your feedback, since you seem to have a good head on your shoulders and knows more about the navy bases around here than I do. I fact, I was planning on taking most of Admiral Jawa's duties while he's away.

But if you're going to volunteer to take care of the squids, I sure as hell won't stop you. Congratulations, son. You're Neo-Seattle's newest Rear-Admiral. I'll make arrangements to have the paperwork delivered to you and send someone to get you up to speed. Good luck."

And after giving the newly-minted Rear-Admiral Nixeu a pat on the back, General Highwind moves on to most certainly not celebrate his succesful ditching of the paperwork on someone else.

I meant to outline this in an omake I never ended up posting, due to lack of confidence.
I find being drunk, sleep deprived or in some other altered state of consciousness to be very good for dealing with a lack of confidence as well as for increasing the flow of creative juices. Mostly because I can look at my post in the morning and blame everything on Drunk/Sleepy/Drunk and Sleepy Highwind.

If you doubt the effectiveness of this advice, then I present you Exhibit A: this very post. :V
 
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To be honest, I don't properly research half the names I come up with for my giant monsters (for Susie, I basically went "that's related to that one guy with a sword who cut off Orochi's heads, right?" and left it at that until today). Besides, Vulcan was named after a god, and he was only a Cat III, so don't expect names to always correlate to power level or anything.
Yeah but Kusanagi is literally one of the most famous swords in Japanese folklore and it comes from that exact story, so really no excuse there.
 
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The General's levels his gaze at the younger man before. Like a mountain rising due to geologic forces, his right eyebrow is rises from behind his Ray-bans. The smoke from his cigar only enhances the impression.

The man takes a slow drag, savoring the now-luxurious commodity before taking it in his hand and expelling the smoke.

"I'll be honest," The General says. "I was just shooting some ideas to hear your feedback, since you seem to have a good head on your shoulders and knows more about the navy bases around here than I do. I fact, I was planning on taking most of Admiral Jawa's duties while he's away.

But if you're going to volunteer to take care of the squids, I sure as hell won't stop you. Congratulations, son. You're Neo-Seattle's newest Rear-Admiral. I'll make arrangements to have the paperwork delivered to you and send someone to get you up to speed. Good luck."

And after giving the newly-minted Rear-Admiral Nixeu a pat on the back, General Highwind moves on to most certainly not celebrate his succesful ditching of the paperwork on someone else.
The young man walks out smiling. For he knew from his experiences in the Clean-up crews that paperwork, like Kaiju Blue, flows downhill. He already had plans for selecting his personal staff, onto whom he would push most of the paperwork. Who would probably do the same with their subordinates. And thus, the balance of the bureaucratic ecosystem was maintained.
I find being drunk, sleep deprived or in some other altered state of consciousness to be very good for dealing with a lack of confidence as well as for increasing the flow of creative juices. Mostly because I can look at my post in the morning and blame everything on Drunk/Sleepy/Drunk and Sleepy Highwind.

If you doubt the effectiveness of this advice, then I present you Exhibit A: this very post. :V
I know. That's when I wrote most of it. Mostly I just felt like I put it off too long. Still, I should probably post it. Especially since it accidentally ties into yours a bit.

In an office in Neo Seattle's Command Centre, a young man sits at desk, alternating between staring at several monitors showing a pitched battle from multiple angles, to the tablet he was working on. His hair is messy, his beard unkempt, but his eyes gleam with a crazied sort of energy as he works.

Most of his colleagues considered his habit of planning for Kaiju clean-up before the fight was over to be bizarre and possibly pointless, but he didn't much care. It was better to have at least some idea of what needed to be done ahead of time, rather than delay and let the caustic stuff damage the environment more than necessary. Even with the new decontamination towers, quick clean-up was important.

So he watched, typed, and sketched, his eyes rapidly flicking from the screen to his tablet, and back again, his plans spawning, evolving, and dying in time with the flow of combat and the spilling of Kaiju blood, losing himself in the work. He was always happiest when he was multitasking. It left less processing power to spend thinking about how throughly his world had been turned upside-down.

He still wasn't entirely sure how he'd ended up as the head of the Kaiju clean-up crews. Oh, he knew how he joined the cleaning crews, alright. Driven by his knowledge of chemistry, his horror at the damage the Kaiju could do to the environment around them, his curiosity about Kaiju biology, and, most of all, a burning need to feel useful, he'd foolishly volunteered to deal with the aftermath of Tacit Ronin's duels. The Science Division would have been his first choice, but he was under-qualified for any role where his ideas might be heard, given how the apocalypse wiped out his student records, and his lack of a diploma. So, Kaiju clean-up it was.

His experience handling chemicals, as well as his strict, somewhat obsessive adherence to safety procedures, served him well in his new job. His insistence on others doing the same...probably played a role in his elevation to team leader. It was this new role that pushed him into his current habit, and the result of that habit was that his team was faster at clean-up. He also encouraged his crew to make suggestions for ways to improve things, which had paid off in further speed increases. Ones that ended up spreading to the rest of the crews.

...Okay, so maybe his getting this job wasn't quite as inexplicable as he sometimes thought. Still, he could quite rid himself of the suspicion that someone wanted him in this position for less-than-noble reasons. Maybe they wanted to see him fail out of spite for whatever reason, or maybe they just wanted to drown him in paperwork.

The latter seemed plausible, given the initial deluge when he took his position. However, if that was the case, the joke was on them. His new position came with minions (who had, to his surprise, been perfectly okay with the title, and later even insisted on it), and he abused this shamelessly, shoving as much paperwork as possible onto them. Even though this was by no means enough to keep him from doing any paperwork, he certainly wasn't swamped, either.

And, while the paperwork did lessen his free-time, his new rank had finally spurred him into recording the ideas he'd had floating around for ages, now that he was more confident he'd be listened to. There were a lot of them. He'd always been creative, but the Kaiju had kicked his idea-generation into overdrive, with all the amazing abilities they displayed. The response had been more positive than he dared to hope for. He'd heard that some of his ideas had even caught General Highwind's attention.

No, overall, things were going surprisingly well, given that the world had ended. Not just for him, either. Neo-Seattle was doing better than anyone had expected, in the beginning. But the Council was good at what they did. And if they were a bit...eccentric, well, that only meant he'd fit right in, if he ever joined them.

The young man smiled slightly, watching the raging battle, and all the pools of Kaiju Blue he'd have to figure out efficient removal for. Not to mention all the Kaiju parts to identify, tag, and clean up enough to let Retrieval do it's job.

Well, at least he wasn't going to get bored anytime soon.

*****
Apologies if this sucked. I don't do a lot of prose. Honestly, it's kind of a new thing for me. My previous 'omakes', with one exception, were written in stage-note format, and we're basically just jokes. I don't have a particular fight in mind for when this happens. One of the ones that went well, obviously. TRverse!Nixeu would be a hell of a lot less amused if he was watching, say, the Kaizoku fight.
 
"I'll be honest," The General says. "I was just shooting some ideas to hear your feedback, since you seem to have a good head on your shoulders and knows more about the navy bases around here than I do. I fact, I was planning on taking most of Admiral Jawa's duties while he's away.

Meanwhile, somewhere in Alaska...

"Grumble grumble thought this would be easier mumble mumble why couldn't Beckett hide somewhere less remote and freezing mumble grumble grumble thought I'd be better prepared for this weather grumble mumble where is that dang Ranger mumble grumble grumble mumble..."

:V
 
Apologies if this sucked. I don't do a lot of prose. Honestly, it's kind of a new thing for me. My previous 'omakes', with one exception, were written in stage-note format, and we're basically just jokes. I don't have a particular fight in mind for when this happens. One of the ones that went well, obviously. TRverse!Nixeu would be a hell of a lot less amused if he was watching, say, the Kaizoku fight.
It's not any worse than my first attempts, that's for sure. It's actually pretty good! Writing is all about practice, so the more you practice the better you get. One of the better pieces of advice I got was to write with pen, on good 'ol paper, with a dictionary in arm's reach, and to strike through only once whenever you make a mistake or change something. Then you have to read everything again after you're done.

It helps improve your writing, calligraphy and forces you to learn how to cope with the crippling shame, lack of confidence and those pesky feelings of inadequacy! :V

Seriously though, it helps. Always try to find a place to improve as well. For example, I struggle with descriptions and setting a scene, so I've been training by trying to describe a scene in a ballroom where I have to describe the dance floor, the characters and their clothes, the music that plays... It's a struggle to make something that feels worth reading without going overboard on the adjectives and making the scene play out, but I like to think I improved a bit.

Meanwhile, somewhere in Alaska...

"Grumble grumble thought this would be easier mumble mumble why couldn't Beckett hide somewhere less remote and freezing mumble grumble grumble thought I'd be better prepared for this weather grumble mumble where is that dang Ranger mumble grumble grumble mumble..."

:V
And now I'm imagining you took a Gunboat and went sailing North with a skeleton crew... and then got stuck because the ocean around your boat froze up.

Actually, I'll try to keep this in mind for the next time we send someone to check in on Anchorage. It might make for a fun omake.
 
And now I'm imagining you took a Gunboat and went sailing North with a skeleton crew... and then got stuck because the ocean around your boat froze up.

Actually, I'll try to keep this in mind for the next time we send someone to check in on Anchorage. It might make for a fun omake.
Hey, at least he's alive.
 
It's not any worse than my first attempts, that's for sure. It's actually pretty good! Writing is all about practice, so the more you practice the better you get. One of the better pieces of advice I got was to write with pen, on good 'ol paper, with a dictionary in arm's reach, and to strike through only once whenever you make a mistake or change something. Then you have to read everything again after you're done.

It helps improve your writing, calligraphy and forces you to learn how to cope with the crippling shame, lack of confidence and those pesky feelings of inadequacy! :V

Seriously though, it helps. Always try to find a place to improve as well. For example, I struggle with descriptions and setting a scene, so I've been training by trying to describe a scene in a ballroom where I have to describe the dance floor, the characters and their clothes, the music that plays... It's a struggle to make something that feels worth reading without going overboard on the adjectives and making the scene play out, but I like to think I improved a bit.
Thanks for the advice. I'm not use how much I'll apply it, though, since I write mostly based on the whims of my neuro-chemistry (or papers for school). I suspect the fact that my bipolar medication is at it's nadir at night to be responsible for the two random urges I've had to write prose (a new phenomenon, though not entirely unwelcome). Haven't had any recently, I think because I've been applying myself to other things. Like archive crawls.
 
Balmung and Caladbolg are the SOBs I'm more worried about, anyway. :V
Durandal. I never ever want to fight anything worth naming Durandal. (Durandal, for those who don't know, is one of the few items of legend claimed to be indestructible that then proceeded to actually live up to the hype.)
 
Durandal. I never ever want to fight anything worth naming Durandal. (Durandal, for those who don't know, is one of the few items of legend claimed to be indestructible that then proceeded to actually live up to the hype.)
I thought we already killed Duranda- ...shit, wait, I was falsely attributing that name to Dainslief. Fuck.
 
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