KnightDisciple
Brotherhood. Unity. Peace.
- Location
- Midwest, USA
EGGCELLENT.
I will try to write out some high-level bullet-point thoughts tonight on stuff we can/should do next downtime plan, next couple of Jaegers, etc.
Tacit Ronin: The Power of Three
- Thread starter Fyrstorm
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I will try to write out some high-level bullet-point thoughts tonight on stuff we can/should do next downtime plan, next couple of Jaegers, etc.
Lone Courier 6
Devilish Fool
- Location
- United States of Quests
I think we did send out the signal before the cannon.
Fyrstorm
Gun Waifu Extraordinaire
- Location
- 'Straya
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Downtime, part 2:
The screen flicks on, a haze of static crossing the image for an instant before settling, albeit with a patch or two stuck in grey scale. The ANGEL-Net transmitter was never designed to be weaponised, and even after fixing the electrical grid it's still being a little grouchy.
The two Councils are both ready and waiting-- their five to your half dozen or so.
"To get down to business," one of them starts. "We picked up your distress call, but lost contact with your transmitter not long after. Can you please confirm your current status, and what events transpired following your call?"
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And now here's KRAUN. For reference, you guys called them on page 203, right around the very start of the battle.
The screen flicks on, a haze of static crossing the image for an instant before settling, albeit with a patch or two stuck in grey scale. The ANGEL-Net transmitter was never designed to be weaponised, and even after fixing the electrical grid it's still being a little grouchy.
The two Councils are both ready and waiting-- their five to your half dozen or so.
"To get down to business," one of them starts. "We picked up your distress call, but lost contact with your transmitter not long after. Can you please confirm your current status, and what events transpired following your call?"
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And now here's KRAUN. For reference, you guys called them on page 203, right around the very start of the battle.
- Location
- Big Apple 3am
Is it bad that one of the first things i thought of on using the TIDE was dropping a J-scale anvil on top of a Kaiju? Anyways some ideas after skimming the update and research doc:
[] "We seem to have been attacked by a group identifying themselves as the "Blue Stars", they had assaulted us with high numbers of conventional units as well as 3 Jaegers one being based on Seijin biology. They had even gone so far as to sneak into our cities and attempted sabotage of both our infrastructure and our Jaegers. The battle has since concluded and we have aqured the reck of the Seijin as well as a mostly funtioning Jaeger, we have also accidentally discovered thet Iblis particles are great at propagating an EMP. We are making this call primaraly to see if you would have any information on this group."
- Edge missile based on Gregorius blade.
- Shaped Charge Sunfury, single target high AP impact missile.
- Pulse Detonation Engines for our fixed wing craft and as possible thrusters for MK 0's.
- AA based on a scaled down U-10 with possible missiles attachments.
- Enhanced U-10 utilizing a magnetic focuser in a repulsed set up and diamagnetic wading. (could also work as a stand alone system for a pure Coil gun)
- Sterling EDF generator.
- Duel mounted MK-99 rifles in a turret as well as U-10 to supplement our rail guns as well as serving as a basis for Cruiser guns.
- Rail guns based on plasma armature.
[] "We seem to have been attacked by a group identifying themselves as the "Blue Stars", they had assaulted us with high numbers of conventional units as well as 3 Jaegers one being based on Seijin biology. They had even gone so far as to sneak into our cities and attempted sabotage of both our infrastructure and our Jaegers. The battle has since concluded and we have aqured the reck of the Seijin as well as a mostly funtioning Jaeger, we have also accidentally discovered thet Iblis particles are great at propagating an EMP. We are making this call primaraly to see if you would have any information on this group."
Sir Plusse
Overly Vicious Quester
- Location
- Kansas
Well, here's my attempt at diplomancy...
[X] Start by apologizing for calling them so often; they likely have other projects they would like to see to, and the constant interruptions can't be helping.
-[X] "First, and most importantly: We have come into conflict with a human faction tentatively identified as the Blue Stars. Our loss of signal was likely caused by an EMP we were forced to utilize to counteract their tactics."
--[X] "Fortunately, we have managed to successfully drive them away, and even captured a Jaeger from them which we are currently reverse-engineering for future usage, but we feel further conflict with these Blue Stars to be inevitable."
---[X] "It is suspected, but unconfirmed, that they may be Kaiju cultists due to the biotechnology utilized in the battle- most notably, a hybridized Jaeger they referred to as a 'Ryoushi.'"
----[X] Send them all relevant combat data from Blue Stars units.
[X] Start by apologizing for calling them so often; they likely have other projects they would like to see to, and the constant interruptions can't be helping.
-[X] "First, and most importantly: We have come into conflict with a human faction tentatively identified as the Blue Stars. Our loss of signal was likely caused by an EMP we were forced to utilize to counteract their tactics."
--[X] "Fortunately, we have managed to successfully drive them away, and even captured a Jaeger from them which we are currently reverse-engineering for future usage, but we feel further conflict with these Blue Stars to be inevitable."
---[X] "It is suspected, but unconfirmed, that they may be Kaiju cultists due to the biotechnology utilized in the battle- most notably, a hybridized Jaeger they referred to as a 'Ryoushi.'"
----[X] Send them all relevant combat data from Blue Stars units.
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Highwind
To Rise From The Ashes
- Location
- Brazil
It took me way too long to finish this post, but here's my reaction to the latest second-to-latest update.
This basically lets a high-Dex Jaeger fill the area with proximity mines, fall back a full run to get out of the blast radius, and force the enemy to either run through a minefield, find a way around it, or waste time throwing rocks to clear a path. This sort of thing can make Charging one of our Jaegers exceedingly dangerous for almost anything that stays in the ground. We could also couple this with the Sovereign RWC and store Bit/Fang flying bombs in the Breach Storage to use in pretty much the same fashion, so the enemy can't just jump or float past them, and with the added bonus that we can reposition the bombs to keep a screen between us and the enemy at all times.
All in all, I'm extremely happy with this.
I think the best way to take full advantage of these units is to use them as full fleets centered around either a Tristan or a Seawolf II. Four Zephyrs to act as the eyes, two offensive Conventionals to help deal damage (either Morays or Gunboats) and one flagship (a Seawolf II or a Tristan) to serve as the heavy firepower.
The LC Laser Cannon looks good, though it could do with an upgrade to its range. We could replace Tacit's Laser Vulcans with them later, since "hit them with a ton of dice and hope a couple crit" hasn't been working all that well lately.
The Supercavitating Missile racks are cheap and effective too, so that's another Ranged option for the future.
It's still an amazing weapons by all accounts, though there's probably room for improvement down the line.
-[x] Give them an overview of the battle. Detail all we know about the Blue Stars, their forces and technology. Answer any questions to the best of our ability.
-[x] "I think I speak for all of us that a hostile human faction with advanced K-scale biotechnology and the resources to build three Jaegers -Or rather, two Jaegers and some sort of Cyborg Kaiju- is a threat that cannot be taken lightly."
-[x] "So far, none of the soldiers we captured have yielded useful information. The captured Jaeger gave us insight into their technologies, but no intel on who they really are or what they want."
It's good to see the main couple of the game back together!
And the other main couple is almost back together too!
Building our forces back up is very, very important. Plus, we're almost ready to equip the OMEN on Tacit and one step closer to being able to build the Sovereign RWC and Garnele Fangs for Jagdhund! We just need the money, really.
The price is a bit high, but it works well enough that I can't complain. I can't see us ever needing more than three Jaeger berths unless Jagdhund's cousins come to visit us, so the three Jaeger limit isn't a problem.
This is way better than I expected. I didn't think it'd let whatever Jaeger we equip this with (probably Jagdhund) warp an item from the inventory to literally anywhere physically viable within two units, and as a free action to boot.
This basically lets a high-Dex Jaeger fill the area with proximity mines, fall back a full run to get out of the blast radius, and force the enemy to either run through a minefield, find a way around it, or waste time throwing rocks to clear a path. This sort of thing can make Charging one of our Jaegers exceedingly dangerous for almost anything that stays in the ground. We could also couple this with the Sovereign RWC and store Bit/Fang flying bombs in the Breach Storage to use in pretty much the same fashion, so the enemy can't just jump or float past them, and with the added bonus that we can reposition the bombs to keep a screen between us and the enemy at all times.
All in all, I'm extremely happy with this.
So much good stuff!
Inexpensive and capable of carrying enough Brontes sonobuoys to cover a useful area with a single unit. Nothing on the offensive side though, but for that, we have the other boats.
This is pretty much the opposite of the Zephyrs. That's a lot of damage potential in one unit, and that's just as well considering the price tag. We need to figure out new Heavy Missiles, but this is pretty damn good as it is.
Another unit with a lot of firepower, but all of it in its torpedoes. It's a Superheavy, and the price tag shows, but it's damn good for its niche as all Superheavies should be.
I think the best way to take full advantage of these units is to use them as full fleets centered around either a Tristan or a Seawolf II. Four Zephyrs to act as the eyes, two offensive Conventionals to help deal damage (either Morays or Gunboats) and one flagship (a Seawolf II or a Tristan) to serve as the heavy firepower.
The best part is that this means all those weapons are now fully compatible with the Tyr's Command Uplink.
Those Ultra Autocannons look pretty damn good, better than the Jagdgewehr in everything but the raw Damage Bonus and that's a very good trade-off for the raw damage potential this gun brings to the table. The only possible issues I can see are the fact it is built-in instead of a hand-held weapon, which isn't really an issue at all in most cases, and the fact our enemies know exactly how that weapon works and how it performs (again, not much of an issue).
The LC Laser Cannon looks good, though it could do with an upgrade to its range. We could replace Tacit's Laser Vulcans with them later, since "hit them with a ton of dice and hope a couple crit" hasn't been working all that well lately.
The Supercavitating Missile racks are cheap and effective too, so that's another Ranged option for the future.
While it does have slightly worse stats when compared to the Ascalon Blade, it isn't much of a downgrade. We lost one point of Attack Bonus and the damage scales with Str now, but the choice between 1d10 or 2d5 Parry makes for an interesting and potentially useful special ability, and for what it's worth the block dice is slightly better. The biggest downgrade for this weapon when compared to the Ascalon blade is the Cleave (5) replacing the Cleave (3), really.
It's still an amazing weapons by all accounts, though there's probably room for improvement down the line.
If I'm reading this right, we can have both the EW Suite and the Command Uplink active at the same time. The range on the Passive Mode is paltry, but I'm pretty sure it works on everything including Jaegers. The penalties on the Aggresive Mode are pretty good too, but not so much against enemy Jaegers.
[X] "I am happy to say that we are safe and that we sustained only relatively light damage and casualties despite the sabotage and the number of enemies. With that said, we have very important intel to share with you."
-[x] Give them an overview of the battle. Detail all we know about the Blue Stars, their forces and technology. Answer any questions to the best of our ability.
-[x] "I think I speak for all of us that a hostile human faction with advanced K-scale biotechnology and the resources to build three Jaegers -Or rather, two Jaegers and some sort of Cyborg Kaiju- is a threat that cannot be taken lightly."
-[x] "So far, none of the soldiers we captured have yielded useful information. The captured Jaeger gave us insight into their technologies, but no intel on who they really are or what they want."
Nixeu
Lord of Madness, Harbinger of Llamas
- Location
- Your nightmares.
It's got a hell of a lot of potential for creative uses, yeah.
That sounds like pretty decent tactical doctrine to me, at least for now. In the case of the Tristan-class ships, either Morays or Gunboats will do, but Morays are going to work best with the Seawolves. Though I should, once again, point out that those two new heavy hitters do synergize exceeding well, covering one another's weak points. More important for the missile boat, since it can't engage underwater targets as effectively as something with torpedos can, but the Seawolves are able to engage in limited surface and aerial warfare.
I'd be willing to consider it, if we can fix the range issue. And find the cash. The extra damage to armor durability might be quite a bit more handy than mass fire.
Thanks for pointing that out. Yes, we can use both at once. It definitely could be better, but as a Free Action ability, it's pretty good. Major K-scale debuffs might be a bit much to ask for.
X] "I am happy to say that we are safe and that we sustained only relatively light damage and casualties despite the sabotage and the number of enemies. With that said, we have very important intel to share with you."
-[x] Give them an overview of the battle. Detail all we know about the Blue Stars, their forces and technology. Answer any questions to the best of our ability.
-[x] "I think I speak for all of us that a hostile human faction with advanced K-scale biotechnology and the resources to build three Jaegers -Or rather, two Jaegers and some sort of Cyborg Kaiju- is a threat that cannot be taken lightly."
-[x] "So far, none of the soldiers we captured have yielded useful information. The captured Jaeger gave us insight into their technologies, but no intel on who they really are or what they want."
- Location
- Big Apple 3am
Missing a bracket there buddy.
Smithsguild
The third monkey...
- Location
- Somewhere 'near' Atlanta Ga
Fair enough, in Mammoth Quest the military gear I try to reflect it is accurately as I can without being game breaking...
It comes from identifying as a non-binary 'Ammosexual'.
Edit: my apologizes for necroing back nearly a page that's what i get for walking away mid post finishing then clicking send (6-8 hours later w/o checking for posts.)
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- Location
- That crazy place in the US
[X] "I am happy to say that we are safe and that we sustained only relatively light damage and casualties despite the sabotage and the number of enemies. With that said, we have very important intel to share with you."
-[x] Give them an overview of the battle. Detail all we know about the Blue Stars, their forces and technology. Answer any questions to the best of our ability.
-[x] "I think I speak for all of us that a hostile human faction with advanced K-scale biotechnology and the resources to build three Jaegers -Or rather, two Jaegers and some sort of Cyborg Kaiju- is a threat that cannot be taken lightly."
-[x] "So far, none of the soldiers we captured have yielded useful information. The captured Jaeger gave us insight into their technologies, but no intel on who they really are or what they want."
-[x] Give them an overview of the battle. Detail all we know about the Blue Stars, their forces and technology. Answer any questions to the best of our ability.
-[x] "I think I speak for all of us that a hostile human faction with advanced K-scale biotechnology and the resources to build three Jaegers -Or rather, two Jaegers and some sort of Cyborg Kaiju- is a threat that cannot be taken lightly."
-[x] "So far, none of the soldiers we captured have yielded useful information. The captured Jaeger gave us insight into their technologies, but no intel on who they really are or what they want."
Fyrstorm
Gun Waifu Extraordinaire
- Location
- 'Straya
- Pronouns
- He/Him
KRAUN are, as usual, both astute listeners and rather talkative between themselves, as the Protectorate's council explains what went down during the fight. Between the careful glances at each other and scribbled note-taking, the questions they pose are few but easy to answer, and it's not long before Neo-Seattle's leaders can complete their report.
"Well, we can definitely agree with that," one of them confirms. "A new enemy in this war can only complicate matters, especially if they have access to both jaeger and kaiju technologies."
"Unfortunately," another one chimes in. "Our windows for offensive support are somewhat limited for the moment-- our newest units are just about to enter final testing for the Oblivion operation, and our non-jaeger forces are better suited for defensive operations. Still, if there's anything else you believe would be of assistance in dealing with this opposition, we'll gladly hear it out."
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Can you tell that it's been a while since I last wrote the KRAUN council? Hopefully all the "skipping over the little reactions and intricacies of conversation" thing isn't too big an issue.
- Location
- Somewhere
Did we tell them about Regents probable heading to the hot springs, and how we could track Jackal reliably up to the mountain? I'm not quite sure that would be included in the combat overview, so I thought it was best to clarify. Other question: do they know about Gyoro and his lair at the hot springs?
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Nixeu
Lord of Madness, Harbinger of Llamas
- Location
- Your nightmares.
Damn. Thanks. Highlighting things for copy-paste on mobile for this site can get wonky, if you highlight everything. One character less works, though. Doesn't seem to have mattered, though.
Oh, don't worry about it. It's fine.
Hm. I'm just a touch annoyed we don't have more data for KRAUN. Stupid dice. I'm guessing they have no ideas as to who these jokers are, or where they're based, so they might be new to the area. But that mention of new models might be a good segway into our idea about trading with them. Not suffiently confident in my sales techniques to write anything up just yet, though.
Highwind
To Rise From The Ashes
- Location
- Brazil
The big questions are how mich of our sfuff are we willing to sell them and how we're going to deliver it all. We can probably get away with transporting everything through a caravan to the nearest KRAUN outpost and taking our payment back home through the same route. I suppose urgent deliveries could be done by the Skadi, but that's about it.
Unless they have an outpost on Breachgate range and are willing to fork over some cash up front to finance its construction, we'll have to do trade the old fashioned way.
As for what wares we'll have if they have the coin, I think we ahould offer them everything in our item list except for the bleeding-edge stuff, with Breach-tech being the main thing that comes to mind. But other than those? We offer everything. That way they'll be more likely to buy something.
Fyrstorm
Gun Waifu Extraordinaire
- Location
- 'Straya
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I don't think you ever told them about Goryo, and... well, I'll leave it up to you guys to decide if you told them where Jackal and Regent were heading. It wouldn't really change their response from the previous post much, in either case.
Nixeu
Lord of Madness, Harbinger of Llamas
- Location
- Your nightmares.
Exactly my plan. Ship the stuff over to Outpost Micheal, then carry our payment back the same way. I expect the items to sell the most will be Jagdarium armor plating, and Special Bakelite rounds. Maybe some Thunderspray grenades, or possibly some drone Cons. Consumables and reletively cheap upgrades to existing equipment are going to be in higher demand than high-spec, high cost gear. That many of those are also items we can make at a discount is a happy accident (and also just makes sense, since they're equally in demand for our own forces).
Sir Plusse
Overly Vicious Quester
- Location
- Kansas
Of course, high-quality armor is almost certain to sell well. I mean, if Jagd was any indication, they don't have anything Jagdarium-tier to use. Granted, it's been a while, so their material science might've progressed since then, but still.
Actually, this brings a potential vote to mind...
[X] "Unfortunately, warning you of the potential threat is one of the few ways we can assist you in this matter at this time, since we were unable to confirm the location of their base. This does bring us to the other reason we called you today, though..."
-{X} "We would like to establish trade with you in the near future; we feel that we have several products, such as our Jagdarium armor, that you would be interested in - and would incidentally be quite useful in the raid on Oblivion Bay, and in preparations for defense against Blue Star attacks."
--[X] Send them a list of (preferably-tested) equipment we can produce, with materials needed for manufacture (likely to inadvertently lead to them learning how to make some of them themselves, but necessary to establish starting prices) and their performance (so they know what they're buying).
---[X] "Should trade be established, we will, of course, inform you of any new products we develop as we become confident enough in their efficacy to offer them, though we feel that it will be unnecessary to inform you of them face-to-face."
That last bit, I think, basically means that we'll update what we're selling them as we research new stuff, without needing to actually spend actions to do so beyond possible production actions.
Actually, this brings a potential vote to mind...
[X] "Unfortunately, warning you of the potential threat is one of the few ways we can assist you in this matter at this time, since we were unable to confirm the location of their base. This does bring us to the other reason we called you today, though..."
-{X} "We would like to establish trade with you in the near future; we feel that we have several products, such as our Jagdarium armor, that you would be interested in - and would incidentally be quite useful in the raid on Oblivion Bay, and in preparations for defense against Blue Star attacks."
--[X] Send them a list of (preferably-tested) equipment we can produce, with materials needed for manufacture (likely to inadvertently lead to them learning how to make some of them themselves, but necessary to establish starting prices) and their performance (so they know what they're buying).
---[X] "Should trade be established, we will, of course, inform you of any new products we develop as we become confident enough in their efficacy to offer them, though we feel that it will be unnecessary to inform you of them face-to-face."
That last bit, I think, basically means that we'll update what we're selling them as we research new stuff, without needing to actually spend actions to do so beyond possible production actions.
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Sir Plusse
Overly Vicious Quester
- Location
- Kansas
I kinda edited something into my previous post, since I didn't want to double-post; I started it pretty soon after I first posted it, but it took me quite a bit longer than expected to satisfy myself with its wording. Edit went up a couple minutes before Fyr's post.
Nixeu
Lord of Madness, Harbinger of Llamas
- Location
- Your nightmares.
Oh, I kinda figured. I expect some models might be of interest, if they lack equivalents, but most of their units are probably on par with ours, or maybe a bit better.
Looks good. I can draw up an actual list to include, if you want.
Sir Plusse
Overly Vicious Quester
- Location
- Kansas
Actually, their drones might be weaker to save on costs. Seems in-character for them to me.
Anyway, if you feel a list would help, go for it.
Highwind
To Rise From The Ashes
- Location
- Brazil
[X] "Unfortunately, we don't have enough information to mount an assault or even harass the Blue Stars. As far as I can tell, the best either of us can do at the moment is keep an eye for possible infiltrators and saboteurs trying to enter our territories. Tightening up our internal security and increasing our defenses against conventional armies would probably be good ideas as well."
[X] "Since we don't have any more intel on the Blue Stars at the moment, I believe it's about time we moved on to the other reason we called. To put it as plainly as possible, we need resources to build up our forces for the Oblivion operation and the more we have, the more and better forces we can bring to bear when the day of the battle comes. As such, we'd like to offer a trade agreement."
-[x] "We are willing to build and sell you pretty much every single piece of equipment and materiel we have the blueprints of, with the exception of our bleeding-edge experimental technology. Among our offerings are everything from advanced armor-piercing swords derived from a Blade-Class Kaiju's swords to our Jagdarium alloy armor and Plasma launchers, as well as a wide variety of anti-kaiju coventional and Superheavy forces and special ammo types compatible with rifles similar to Jagdhund's."
-[x] "Naturally, we will take care of not just the production, but also of the transport to the nearest Outpost. You need only send in your order and have the payment waiting for us.
How does this sound?
[X] "Since we don't have any more intel on the Blue Stars at the moment, I believe it's about time we moved on to the other reason we called. To put it as plainly as possible, we need resources to build up our forces for the Oblivion operation and the more we have, the more and better forces we can bring to bear when the day of the battle comes. As such, we'd like to offer a trade agreement."
-[x] "We are willing to build and sell you pretty much every single piece of equipment and materiel we have the blueprints of, with the exception of our bleeding-edge experimental technology. Among our offerings are everything from advanced armor-piercing swords derived from a Blade-Class Kaiju's swords to our Jagdarium alloy armor and Plasma launchers, as well as a wide variety of anti-kaiju coventional and Superheavy forces and special ammo types compatible with rifles similar to Jagdhund's."
-[x] "Naturally, we will take care of not just the production, but also of the transport to the nearest Outpost. You need only send in your order and have the payment waiting for us.
How does this sound?