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Super Robot Quest G

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If Sam hadn't vetoed integrating the brain into our designs, I would, so I'm fine with that. Anyway, at least for the moment I'd like to stick to our gimmick(s) instead of trying for an Evangelion-ripoff.

One potential avenue of research, though: Use a modified (and isolated) instance of the MMI as an interrogation device to try to find Sheol's base. Without hooking a human up to the same system, of course; I'm not stupid. I'll admit, I was kind of inspired by Sheol's memory-viewing thing, but then I realized we could actually do this.

Profectus said:
Figuring flight for all our super robots is something we gotta do.
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We've got two already (Beowulf in Foxhound, and Thunderbolt). The really big stuff, like Perseus and Banner, seem like they'd need way too much power to fly; I'd rather save it for something more practical.
 
theguynamedwafer said:
Bootleg Getter Robo? We just need to discover and research an analog for Getter Rays. Any Super Robot anime with a bio-organic Super Robot if my comparison is incorrect? And no, Attack on Titan is not an acceptable answer, Sheol already has that field down pat.
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Project GroundPound has the Getter Equivalent, it caused Nightmares so we decided it wasn't a good match with Psychic Robots.

Edit: I have come to the conclusion that we are Ironically the Magic Super Robot Faction. We rely on Monster Flesh, Crystals, and Psychic Energy.
 
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Im a bit lose with the proliferation of our tech in the SR units. When we research new tech all the SR get those implement immediately?
 
Lonosic said:
Im a bit lose with the proliferation of our tech in the SR units. When we research new tech all the SR get those implement immediately?
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No, most of this is laying out our potential avenues, next we'll be choosing what to focus on developing and rolling into upgrades. Pretty much none of this is ready for use, and will still require a refit option to integrate into a machine.
 
Lonosic said:
Ah, alright. Personally, I would not want the bio-robots. Lasers and mecha all the way.
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The biggest issue is, that barring the Kausen Alloy, K-Flesh is flat out better than any of the other materials we have in terms of Durability and Its THE best in Flexibility. Material upgrades are currently, what can we convert to K-Class or use Faedium to replace. Bio Components are pretty much mandatory with our current Tech Tree, but the C-Crystal's Character restrictions and our own Psychic control Tech should prevent outright take over from Sheol. System glitches is another thing entirely, most likely it will be like having a Windows and Linux machine try to talk to each other. Not entirely compatible, but maybe some emulation allowing for some communication. Best I think Sheol will accomplish is roughly equivalent to a muscle spasm.
 
Unless.... No one said we could only run 1 Super Robot Program... IF the DFRI established a second Super Robot Program that was not meant too utilize current Robot models.
 
Honestly if we do bio mechs, I'd say go transformers beast wars with it. Configure between bigass animal and giant robot forms. If we can anyways. Honestly a fully biomech is, I feel, unlikely for us, we feel much more likely to make a normal mech just entirely out of K class materials. So no musculature or anything, just cells used as raw materials rather than for their true intended purpose.

Edit, alternatively to the bigass animal-giant robot configuration, what about a normal vehicle that configures into a cyborg mecha abomination?
 
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Combine Flame K-Lungs with Petrawing rotors for Super Robot sized jet engines? Would this be the beginning of functional Rocket Fists?
 
Thought concerning a bio-mech. Wouldn't such a mech be great for ESP stuff? K-class materials are far better than average at channeling ESP enhancements, so imagine if we could build a whole super robot around that. We'd need an unusually powerful Esper to make it worthwhile, but I think that if we were to build a biomech around being a channel and amplifier for an esper's abilities it could be absurdly powerful.
 
I think any question about bio-mechs will come down to one thing: who's better at their craft, Sam at ESP, or Sheol at his bio-Kaiju stuff? If Sheol is better, then any advancements in this field will most likely end with Sheol turning our Kaiju-lite against us, or knowing exactly how to break it down. If Sam is better, then our enhanced ESP-bio-mech would be able to fight Sheol's beasts on an even keel, and there may be a chance we'll be able to disrupt Sheol's control over his own beasts.

And in regards to cross-integration, we just saw Sheol planning to expand his horizons, but we have no idea whether that includes combining his stuff with Westphalian mechanics or Kausen technology (or if he's humble enough to expand his horizons), while our side's whole bread and butter is integrating and cross-merging different Mecha-Enabling Phlebotinum to create fully-working Super Robots.

Personally, I'd recommend keeping things majority-technological on our side. Sheol can't use what Kaiju-ESP knowledge he has to suborn our bots if we keep our K-Class integration to our bots' controls to a minimum, and even if he was humble enough to get into electronics to try and counter our bots, I doubt he'd be good enough to get past a Super AI on technological defense. And I personally prefer that if we look into Kaiju-brains, we focus on disruption, so we can break out a Kaiju-countermeasure.

One thing's for sure, we definitely need to start collaborating with the Yukimura Institute more, at the bare minimum finding out what both of us know about Sheol's Kaiju.
 
storysmith112358 said:
And in regards to cross-integration, we just saw Sheol planning to expand his horizons...

And I personally prefer that if we look into Kaiju-brains, we focus on disruption, so we can break out a Kaiju-countermeasure.
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Technically, what I saw was Sheol planning to make a kaiju ripoff of Mercury and/or Perseus. Doesn't really mean he won't branch out into cyborgs, but...

Anyway, re: K-brains, I think some sort of interrogation method is probably a hard requirement to complete the Sheol arc, because otherwise how are we gonna find his base? And as for how we'll do that, well, the most likely method is, of course, derived from the MMI.
 
Sir Plusse said:
If Sam hadn't vetoed integrating the brain into our designs, I would, so I'm fine with that. Anyway, at least for the moment I'd like to stick to our gimmick(s) instead of trying for an Evangelion-ripoff.

One potential avenue of research, though: Use a modified (and isolated) instance of the MMI as an interrogation device to try to find Sheol's base. Without hooking a human up to the same system, of course; I'm not stupid. I'll admit, I was kind of inspired by Sheol's memory-viewing thing, but then I realized we could actually do this.
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Also see if we can develop a jammer (to inhibit Sheol's kaiju) or a counter jammer (to stop Sheol from inhibiting our MMI).
 
...Rereading the end of the Dragon(fly) battle, and I just realized that we have technically answered one of Adam's questions. He wanted to know if we could turn its horn (aka K-Fang) into a laser gun, and we've made a halberd that doubles as a laser gun out of it now. Had to hybridize it a bit, sure, but we can laser with K-Fang. Wonder if he remembers that?
 
Thors_Alumni said:
I would rather Sheol not have a chance to suborn our Robots at all.
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Oh that's super easy to avoid. Implant an SAI in a 'cyber-brain' module in its head as well as a C-Crystal to both use a main control scheme different from the Kaiju and the C-Crystal will both empower the bio-mech further and lock out anyone evil trying to hijack it.
Lonosic said:
Personally, I would not want the bio-robots. Lasers and mecha all the way.
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But the visual of a Mazinger, a (Whatever Valiant is a reference to), a Transformer, a Getter Robo, and an Eva Unit fighting side-by-side is even cooler.
 
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Hrrrm…
So first off- I HAVE RETURNED.
Secondly…?
Hrrrm.
K-Class is great, but it does rather sound like Sheol might be able to do something problematic, and I recall how he was like…Summoning? kaiju in that one interlude.
And De-Summoning them.
That latter bit suddenly has me concerned, for reasons of 'lemme build a new Kaiju out of the parts you so graciously brought to me!
*cue Beowulf and Perseus falling apart.*
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As for the Psychic theater stuff…
…What would happen if you used MMI to connect to a computer an AI was inside?
The answer I came up with was basically Psychonauts meets MegaMan Battle Network.
I imagine Ignatov would be the most intrigued, but I'm not convinced it's much more then a boondoggle-psychic Choir just ends up clashing and not doing anything in particular just when the 'wills' are not United, or however Perseus put it.

But I have another thought with ESP.
ESP CAN be infused into some materials, but not that well unless it's K-Class…Buuut there might be more then one way to skin that cat-
What happens if we use Shard-tech to gather and capture Psychic energy into a solid Shard?
I'm thinking a physical form of raw psychic energy might help uncover a lot of the shenanigans that have been tantalizing me for the longest time…
Maybe we'll even start to get into what I want to say would be Xenosaga stuff that way?
 
Zaealix said:
That latter bit suddenly has me concerned, for reasons of 'lemme build a new Kaiju out of the parts you so graciously brought to me!
*cue Beowulf and Perseus falling apart.*
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I don't think this'll be a concern unless he manages to capture them. He needs to use significant infrastructure of some sort to design and disassemble kaiju, so he can't just lolnope our robots (and furthermore it's likely that we'll never encounter an enemy that lolnope's us that hard, because that's just Diabolus Ex Machina, and thus in blatant violation of the Rule of Cool).

I mean, yes, he has the ability to make psychic command units, but without any neural tissue installed in the robots there's nothing they can connect to, which means it's impossible for him to override them.
 
On the one hand, I like being able to potentially build our own off-brand Evangelions.

On the other hand, there are entire orders of magnitude further research to be done before that can be signed off on even remotely safely.

To the point that I'd rather have tested prototypes of an... I don't know, a psychic isolator of some kind (psychoisolation chamber/matrix?) prepared first as a hard counter against potential enemy psychic interference ready and proven viable before committing to it.
 
Sir Plusse said:
I don't think this'll be a concern unless he manages to capture them. He needs to use significant infrastructure of some sort to design and disassemble kaiju, so he can't just lolnope our robots (and furthermore it's likely that we'll never encounter an enemy that lolnope's us that hard, because that's just Diabolus Ex Machina, and thus in blatant violation of the Rule of Cool).

I mean, yes, he has the ability to make psychic command units, but without any neural tissue installed in the robots there's nothing they can connect to, which means it's impossible for him to override them.
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The most I can see him pull is interfere with our ESP waves and make piloting harder (which then our pilots push through with DETERMINATION and BRAVERY); which is why I suggested to check if it's possible to jam and counter jam the ESP waves.
 
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