[X] Let her. It seems her biggest problem with the whole situation is her loss of agency, let her do her own thing for her own reasons.
-[X] Mention that even if the witch herself wasn't actively dangerous her barrier and familiars clearly were so preventing people wandering into it was an achievement.
-[X] Mention your trouble near the candy witch. Sure it'll reduce her trust but that isn't necessarily a bad thing.
 
"…did she- it… hurt anyone in the hospital?"

You doubt it. Charlotte's barrier wasn't on the hospital long enough to do much of anything before you dragged it off, and before hatching her grief seed wouldn't have even possessed the capability to do anything malevolent, actions against you aside.
Sure, she didn't hurt anyone in the Hospital, but she was a Grief Seed.
That means she was a Witch before she was defeated and turned into a Grief Seed. I give it good Odds that she, or rather her Familiars, hurt somebody during that Time.

Perhaps unnerved by Charlotte's unblinking gaze, Sayaka slowly starts backing away. The tiny witch clumsily trails after her, looking a little like a duckling chasing after its mother. Come to think of it, you suppose you can't totally discount the possibility that Charlotte IS sapient, but her mentality is too childish to understand language. You've no clue why that would be, since you don't think Kyubey was in the business of making magical babies, but it's a theory you can't really help but consider.
Maybe it's a Mix of Sayaka reminding Charlotte of someone and her being twisted by Grief enough to be not human anymore but still remembering bits and Pieces?

In response, Charlotte pulls herself into the air, her body floating upwards in a way that gives off the odd impression that she's being jerked around by her torso.
Sounds like the Effect is centered on her "second Form". Maybe Charlotte's first Form is really only a Puppet.

Or rather, she wants to come with Sayaka, it looks like. This really is quite odd; did Charlotte imprint on her or something? You honestly don't know; you're kind of at a loss right now.
With how Ashys Instincts to eat Charlotte get weaker, maybe Sayaka is just giving off that much Grief?

You look down at yourself for a moment, considering what could have happened. If the other witch wasn't already on the verge of hatching when you approached, you wonder if that wouldn't have killed you outright. Or maybe it was only because she was already mostly hatched that what happened was possible? Either way, you're definitely going to have to be more careful around grief seeds from now on, lest you end up-
It was probably the Fact that Charlotte was already hatching. I doubt she could have otherwise contested Ashys own Grief Seed.
Makes me curious what Ashy could do with a Soul Gem though.

Charlotte gently falls to the ground, settling on the line where your barrier splits. She looks around, her gaze holding on the extremely tall grass of your section for a moment, then back to Sayaka.
She is probably wondering where the Cheese is.;)

"There was no point to any of that." Sayaka says dully. "We didn't need to do anything, because the witch wasn't a threat to begin with, so we accomplished nothing. And I'm still stuck here, with you, probably forever."
They couldn't have known that beforehand, and the Familiars could have caused Trouble even if the Witch is harmless.
Also, Sayaka must be a Fountain of Grief right now.


[X] Let her. It's not like you have any other pressing plans at the moment.
-[X] Keep your barrier where Sayaka stays connected but you don't risk unloading stray familiars into the hospital by accident. Hover by a window maybe?
 
I'll admit to not being overly fond of this change. I wanted Ashtaroth to be the only special sapient witch!
 
[X] Let her. It's not like you have any other pressing plans at the moment.
-[X] Keep your barrier where Sayaka stays connected but you don't risk unloading stray familiars into the hospital by accident. Hover by a window maybe?
-[X] Check on Charlotte so she doesn't eat your minions.
-[X] Stay in your empty labyrinth while Sayaka does her thing.
-[X] If a magical girl approaches, have Sayaka intercept.

This is the best avenue to advance the plot, which is what I really care about.
 
Huh, Sayaka got a... friend, I guess? And now we've got a tiny witch wondering around outside the scary part of the barrier. I'm guessing her behavior is modeled on how Nagisa acts toward Mami in the movie.
I see the players of Cheese Quest have successfully tamed the Book Witch and it's puppet, despite a faction having voted to steal it's Grief on first contact.
:p
The players of that quest would be confused as fuck by Sayaka showing up and having a one way conversation with another witch.

[X] Let her. It's not like you have any other pressing plans at the moment.
-[X] Keep your barrier where Sayaka stays connected but you don't risk unloading stray familiars into the hospital by accident.
-[X] See how Charlotte is getting on with the Unmashtart. Stop bullying that occurs in either direction. It can't be that hard to keep track of a small thing in a giant field of grass.

This is going to be neat, how does a another witches familiars act around a different witch and vice-versa? The Unmashtart are no threat to her and they've proven surprisingly chill in the past, so no trouble there, and the Faas only care about gardening. The only ones we can't be sure about are the Brandy, and we've still yet to see one because they stick to the rivers and are otherwise lazy. Guess we'll find out about them when it happens.

And now to see what Sayaka will do. Healing Kyousuke's hand was inevitable once we ended up here, but Sayaka only made that wish because she has a crush on him and wanted him to stop being so depressed. Now in the show this went bad because she need got the gumption to say how she felt about him, plus other factors, but here she's had a lot to process and already knows all those other factors plus extra. So will she heal his hand, then pull up her big girl panties and confess, or just fade away?

Both sides have pros and cons to them. The main draw back of confessing be her difficulty in starting and maintaining such a relationship. Still stuck with Ashtaroth ya know. Hard to have private date when you know someone else is along for every moment that you don't want there. Plus they want to work on getting separated from each other, and I doubt Mitakihara is going to be helpful in that regard. They'll need to travel, and long distance relationships are hard. Not saying anything isn't as severe and is probably the smarter choice, but it's still going to leave her anxious and wondering the great "what ifs?". And it's not as dramatic for us, but that shouldn't be a major concern for Sayaka.
 
Also, Sayaka must be a Fountain of Grief right now.
Good, Ashy can heal at an accelerated rate. But Ashy has an upper limit on grief, right? I wonder what will happen if Sayaka produces too much of it...

This is going to be neat, how does a another witches familiars act around a different witch and vice-versa?
If the familiars are as predictable as I think they are, Shemesh will try to get rid of the foreign element and the Ummashtart will simply not care until someone starts attacking.

Now I want to see things from the familiars' PoV. This demands a Shemesh Gaiden chapter. :V
 
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[X] Let her. It's not like you have any other pressing plans at the moment.
-[X] Keep your barrier where Sayaka stays connected but you don't risk unloading stray familiars into the hospital by accident. Hover by a window maybe?
 
If the familiars are as predictable as I think they are, Shemesh will try to get rid of the foreign element and the Ummashtart will simply not care until someone starts attacking.
I'd say not. Here's what Ashtaroth's character sheet says.
-Shemesh, whose duty is to champion. Dedicated and loyal, he defends the actions of the witch from others. He is rarely around however, as the witch dislikes his company.
Going by this description, he's not only supposed to help defend Ash, he's suppose to support her decisions as well. She decides to let a witch live and hang around? All good in his book. Trying to get a recently subsumed magic girl out of her funk? Great, 100% behind that. I'd imagine most of the problems that arise are simply him misunderstanding what Ash wants, like when he grabbed Hitomi. Ash was just keeping a weather eye out for magic girls, he thought she wanted any old girl. So he wouldn't attack Charlotte, but he might not really know what to do with her. Maybe he'd get her cheese?

Speaking of the familiar page, Charlotte's have apparently joined the party.
Cohabiting Familiars (Charlotte):
-Pyotr, whose duty is to search for cheese. The expansion of their world has renewed their determination to seek out the cheese that it surely must contain. Unfortunately, they are no better at this task than they ever were before, and are now vastly more capable of becoming permanently lost.
-Polina, whose duty is to nurse the cheese. The influx of new potential patient types has convinced them to expand beyond their existing medical centers. While in theory an annoyance, having nothing much else to do, they rather appreciate the change of pace.
So I was either underestimating how motivated the Polina are or how bored they've gotten, because this makes it sound like they're going to set up medical centers around the different barriers. This is completely amazing. Now I can't wait for a familiar type who's duties would conflict with an already present familiar type. They'd start fighting, they'd get hurt, and the Polina would drag them over to the nearest treatment area. They'd rest for a bit, notice that there's familiars of the type they'd been fighting around and start attacking, and then the Polina have to beat the stupid out of them so they don't bother the other patients. I love it.

Though it also makes me wonder, what other effect does merging barriers have on familiars? The barrier, the familiars, and the witch, they all come from a magic girls soul yeah? The witch is the candy wrapped egg with a prize inside, and so the part most care about, but the whole thing is a physical representation of a grief-mad girl's soul. And as Ashtaroth has noted, each barrier has it's own emotional feel to it. Mostly all negative, but there's a few neutral or even positive ones mixed in. This could have an impact on how newly generated familiars behave, maybe making them more complex. Not necessarily stronger or smarter, but more varied. Like an Ummashtart that's more concerned with taking care of the grass, or a Pyotr that's more methodical in it's search for cheese.
 
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I'd imagine most of the problems that arise are simply him misunderstanding what Ash wants, like when he grabbed Hitomi.
And that's why I think Shemesh would attack Charlotte. If Shemesh doesn't know that Charlotte is an invited guest, he may assume the worst and take action.

So I was either underestimating how motivated the Polina are or how bored they've gotten, because this makes it sound like they're going to set up medical centers around the different barriers. This is completely amazing. Now I can't wait for a familiar type who's duties would conflict with an already present familiar type. They'd start fighting, they'd get hurt, and the Polina would drag them over to the nearest treatment area. They'd rest for a bit, notice that there's familiars of the type they'd been fighting around and start attacking, and then the Polina have to beat the stupid out of them so they don't bother the other patients. I love it.
On the other hand, the Pyotr are going to stamp every familiar they bump into. It probably won't be a huge problem, but it will be annoying.

Are Charlotte's familiars still hostile to Ashy and Sayaka, or has adopting Charlotte changed their behavior?

Though it also makes me wonder, what other effect does merging barriers have on familiars? The barrier, the familiars, and the witch, they all come from a magic girls soul yeah? The witch is the candy wrapped egg with a prize inside, and so the part most care about, but the whole thing is a physical representation of a grief-mad girl's soul. And as Ashtaroth has noted, each barrier has it's own emotional feel to it. Mostly all negative, but there's a few neutral or even positive ones mixed in.
I believe linking souls together in this way makes them more complete. Witches and magical girls have certain personalities, powers, and flaws. Bringing these people together through subsumption or friendship increases total strength and negates individual weaknesses. The witches and familiars can benefit from a wider selection of familiars and labyrinths, so they probably won't need to curse random people as much to do the things they do. All in all, coexistence is pretty cool.

However, Ashy's journey is no longer straightforward. She can subsume everything that comes her way, but now she knows that's not the only option. As the landlady, she must decide if the barrier is better or worse with the other witches in it.
 
Didn't respond between this update and the last, so a few things from before to answer:


Yeah, besides my active fics, I've got like... two other things I'm actively writing, or at least trying to actively write, and that's one of them. I really liked Kumo Desu Ga Nani Ka (well... up until a certain reveal at least, which kind of killed my interest to some extent) when I read it a while back, so I started on something similar a little while ago. Not really all that far in yet, but I hope for it to at least read better than most isekais I know of when I finally start posting it.

IIRC, Charlotte finally stopped regenerating when Homura stomped on it. For some reason.

I would guess that Charlotte just finally ran out of spare bodies and/or energy to make more. She got blown up like five or six times, after all.

She's adorable! Like, more adorable than usual. I'm downloading this high-quality image so I can hold onto this cuteness forever.

It was shockingly hard to find a good quality transparent image for Charlotte. That one's from the vsbattle wiki of all things (why is that such a good resource for images?), and I had to redo the runes myself since I couldn't find a transparent version of the patterned ones used in the show. And that's for the arguably most popular witch- if I plan on using any other canon witches, I might just want to redraw them myself.

Familiars, Witch Kisses and such seem to spread despair rather than harvest it after all.

I suspect it's more like... amplifying despair, and one could argue that they might harvest it simply by staying/being near the source, but yes. It's a little strange, really.

Shame you can't change Kyouske into a Tuxedo Mask in exchange for a curse or something.

From what I know about Tuxedo Mask... wouldn't that mean Kyousuke wouldn't remember what he was doing while transformed?

Nurse 1: Help! Patient Kamijou has gone missing!
Nurse 2: What? He still can't walk without crutches; where could he have possibly gone?
Nurse 1: I don't know, but the window is broken!
Nurse 2: Oh god, did he jump?!

*All points bulletin goes out to the hospital staff for the disappeared crippled patient. Kyousuke limps back in like an hour later, sees half the staff panicking, and has no idea where he's been and no idea what to tell them*

Sounds like the Effect is centered on her "second Form". Maybe Charlotte's first Form is really only a Puppet.

The scene as written is based entirely on Charlotte's blink-and-you'll-miss-it moment when she's trying to evade Mami's shots near the wall in canon, which she does for all of like, a second before she gets shot anyways. So, take that as you will.

Now I want to see things from the familiars' PoV. This demands a Shemesh Gaiden chapter. :V

Hehe, Shemesh was originally intended to be more of a wanderer type, but I do find myself liking more and more the idea of him having to manage the barrier's increasingly complex ecosystem.

So I was either underestimating how motivated the Polina are or how bored they've gotten, because this makes it sound like they're going to set up medical centers around the different barriers. This is completely amazing. Now I can't wait for a familiar type who's duties would conflict with an already present familiar type. They'd start fighting, they'd get hurt, and the Polina would drag them over to the nearest treatment area. They'd rest for a bit, notice that there's familiars of the type they'd been fighting around and start attacking, and then the Polina have to beat the stupid out of them so they don't bother the other patients. I love it.

I'm glad you like it, because... well, with what I currently have planned, some minor-to-major familiar interaction is virtually guaranteed the further down the line we go. :D

Are Charlotte's familiars still hostile to Ashy and Sayaka, or has adopting Charlotte changed their behavior?

Their attitudes haven't really changed, but Ashtaroth isn't likely to be attacked by them again, no.

And that's why I think Shemesh would attack Charlotte. If Shemesh doesn't know that Charlotte is an invited guest, he may assume the worst and take action.

Not gonna answer this either way. I just want to say I like the wording here. For... reasons. ;)
 
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And that's why I think Shemesh would attack Charlotte. If Shemesh doesn't know that Charlotte is an invited guest, he may assume the worst and take action.
Possibly, but I still doubt it.
Are Charlotte's familiars still hostile to Ashy and Sayaka, or has adopting Charlotte changed their behavior?
Worth noting that the only familiars to attack first have been the Faas, and only because it seems Saar told them to. None of them seem particularly hostile.

Also ninja'd.
I'm glad you like it, because... well, with what I currently have planned, some minor-to-major familiar interaction is virtually guaranteed the further down the line we go. :D
I find it all one hundred and ten percent fascinating. I can't wait to see what happens.
Hehe, Shemesh was originally intended to be more of a wanderer type, but I do find myself liking more and more the idea of him having to manage the barrier's increasingly complex ecosystem.
Good thing he's stronger then some witches then. He'll have a hard job.
 
From what I know about Tuxedo Mask... wouldn't that mean Kyousuke wouldn't remember what he was doing while transformed?
All my yes to amnesiac!Kyosuke. He's already oblivious to his love interests. Why stop there? :V

The scene as written is based entirely on Charlotte's blink-and-you'll-miss-it moment when she's trying to evade Mami's shots near the wall in canon, which she does for all of like, a second before she gets shot anyways. So, take that as you will.
I think Charlotte runs on ragdoll physics. Not in MOGU MOGU form, though.

Not gonna answer this either way. I just want to say I like the wording here. For... reasons. ;)
...

...What is this sudden dread I feel?
 
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What is the name of the Kumo inspired story?

Still uh... still working on that. ^_^; My works in progress tend to just be named "____ Story" for a while before I actually do anything with them- No-Leaf Clover was just "VLR SI Story" for like six chapters, and a lot of my other WIPs for theoretical future original works are like "Cognition Story", "Infinite Story", "Goddess of Dreams Story", and such. I'll figure it out by the time I actually start posting it, promise. :)
 
From what I know about Tuxedo Mask... wouldn't that mean Kyousuke wouldn't remember what he was doing while transformed?

Nurse 1: Help! Patient Kamijou has gone missing!
Nurse 2: What? He still can't walk without crutches; where could he have possibly gone?
Nurse 1: I don't know, but the window is broken!
Nurse 2: Oh god, did he jump?!

*All points bulletin goes out to the hospital staff for the disappeared crippled patient. Kyousuke limps back in like an hour later, sees half the staff panicking, and has no idea where he's been and no idea what to tell them*
That's only the first anime, there isn't any amnesia in the manga or crystal, not sure why the producers went with that decision
Their attitudes haven't really changed, but Ashtaroth isn't likely to be attacked by them again, no.
charlotte familiars really seem to have a layed back attitude. "dont mess with us and we wont mess with you"
I think Charlotte runs on ragdoll physics. Not in MOGU MOGU form, though.
now I can only imagine Charlotte getting stuck on like, a doorframe or a loose floorboard, and just do that rapid vibrating thing that happens in every single game with ragdolls
 
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