What would the stilling do to Atraxas?
Strange Aeons: A 40k Xeno Governor Quest
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What is this stilling?
TheOmnimercurial
Dragon Bard
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A Child of Isha, alone and in pain for so long....
We need to destroy the Nurglite Taint that hides there!
We need to destroy the Nurglite Taint that hides there!
The stilling is basically what happens to a being (with a soul) that is in the Pariah Nexus ( the system to cut off the warp from the materium). Basically what occurs is the person begins to become depressesed(huge understatement). Here's the link: Stilling - Warhammer 40k - Lexicanum
The Froggy Ninja
The Blade Will Never Die
Heck yeah. Once we upgrade it next turn that'll be cranking out a Regional Shield worth each turn. Probably not worth upgrading to tier 3 before the deadline though.
So Weight is the core of our general Exatari techbase, Ruin is mostly useful for tuning Inversion Arrays and Information will bump up learning and computing stuff, what's Lifs good for? Just medical/Genesis tech?
I would like to have a POV from the ground forces or any POV that show us the MC from another's perspective. They must think he be the second coming of the Emperor or something at this point.
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That would just do what the Pylons did to him, not harm his soul, but make him an absolute asshole to anyone that he considers below him.
Ugh, just realized a major miscommunication that occurred, fuck my life. But at least I have a good enough way to fix this problem in this case. Due to the Forest's lore I went with and everything.
Also until you complete the Gellar Field research to improve Meta Shields you cant build them with Resources, however, once you do complete it, you can build them at 10x the cost in Resources.
The Awakening Core will produce 500 Resources and 200 Alloys per turn. The Chamber will double this to 1k and 400 Alloys. Then you can go with a Phase Forge or a Wellspring to focus on one side of the coin. The Phase Forge will produce 1000 Basic Exatari Alloys and no Resources. The Wellspring will produce 5000 Resources and no Alloys. Both of them have further upgrade options. You still have over a thousand Alloys regardless, so you can make a regional Meta shield as soon as you complete the research.
I am hating myself right now for not realizing this clusterfuck of a miscommunication earlier.
For future reference in normal situations the Core/Chamber do not produce Alloys passively, you require the Phase Forge for that. However, due to this being a miscommunication on my part again and the Forest being partly Divine in nature, it gives you passive Alloy income.
Life governs how super scale or macro scale lifeforms interact with the warp, also governs life in general with regards to the greater species reflection as a basic summary.
The Froggy Ninja
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Well shitbiscuts. So, assuming the pattern holds and t3 is 5x the cost of t2, I'm pretty sure it's mathematically impossible to get more than 2 regional Shields worth of materials in time to actually build them. (Note: only in measures of full Shields worth. We'll have enough for two Shields plus building and maintaining 3+ computers)
Though I'd like to cite a previous statement on wellsprings:
Considering the low end here is twice the output of your most recent estimate, having confirmed that this is a max productivity scenario, is this a balance change or just a brain fart?
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Sort of both, the Wellspring and Phase Forge are both now middle tier points instead of endpoints.
Core
Chamber
Phase Forge/Wellspring
Phase Weave/Borehole
Meta Forge/Heartwell
Borehole would be around 10k Resources
Heartwell would be 40k Resources
Phase Weave would be 2000 Alloys
Meta Forge would enable high end alloys IE making Attuned versions and 5000 Alloys.
The Froggy Ninja
The Blade Will Never Die
As opposed to the previous system of
Core
Chamber
Phase Forge/Wellspring
Meta Forge (scaleable)/Nothing (the Exatari don't care about normal resources enough to need more than Wellsprings)
With mini meta forge being an approximate 10x increase over phase forge and each size up being another OoM.
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Yeah, decided that the Exatari do use enough resources directly to need higher than Wellsprings. And applying proper limitations to meta forge efficiency. The things are already ex nihilo systems, they do not deserve to be that overpowered.
I will note that Atraxas can make personally bucket loads of Alloys once he has a workshop. One of the upsides of him being a Scholar of the Forge, he knows how to weave phasic alloys together from base resources and Invoked Laws.
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The Froggy Ninja
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So once we get a Heart Forge set up, what's a single Forge Alloys action look like?
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In that case we need to build the personal residence or did we do that already?
The Froggy Ninja
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We decided to put it off because of its 50 suspicion cost. Hopefully we'll figure out some more suspicion reduction actions.
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It would be for Atraxas a 5 to 1 ratio of Resources to Alloys. 50 Resources and 1 Invoked Law per 10 Attuned Alloys you wish to create. The max you can make in a given action is 1000 Alloys of either type, and you can fuse up to 4 Invoked Laws to the same action.
The Froggy Ninja
The Blade Will Never Die
Cool. Considering I'm extrapolating at least 2000 Alloys by the deadline (~1800 going into turn 5 -100(Calculation Heart) -100(Awakening Core construction) +200 (Awakening Core Output)=~1800 going into turn 6 -200(Calculation Heart 2x) -500 (Awakening Chamber upgrade) +400 (AC Output)=~1500 into turn 7 +400=1900 into turn 9 +400=2300 leaving us more than 200 to play with for other projects, plus 100 set aside for assorted upkeep) and we can, IIRC, chip away half the DC without totally paying off materials, we should definitely be able to scrape together three Regional Shields before the start of Turn 11. We'll technically have enough Resource Extraction from the Chamber and the Fortifications to get the core four, but I'm assuming we'll have other uses for 5k Resources in the intervening time, and I'm not counting our current stockpile for similar reasons.
I am almost sure it is Strange Schematics that is the research for Meta shield but better ask it and be complety sure.
Between the 2k that is needed for the SDF upgrade and several more computers(we could use up to 1 per advisor + one per Atraxas action +2 more per Atraxas learning action)
I also want to make personal sized meta shields for our advisors we can expect to fight chaos, implants for them and we need to build a personal weapon suite.
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Yes IC its the strange schematic action, but OOC its known that its a DAoT Gellar Field research option.
The Froggy Ninja
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We need three for Atraxas total. It's an equipment bonus so it applies to all of his actions while assigned (unless I have once more misunderstood). I'm not sure the utility value of getting more than maybe one extra computer to shuffle around the advisors considering the cost in both resources and actions to construct.
The main bottleneck on personal shields (considering we can fairly trivially make the unaspected version) is actually action economy. Each Meta Shield, whether regional or personal has a DC of 500. Assuming a full three Hearts, we'd have 70% odds of completing a single shield in one action, with a follow up the next turn basically guaranteeing success.
@Leon12431, I assume we'd need a whitelisted shield to let Nameria benefit from her faith actions but would we need a second whitelist to let the gun god's effect spread from either her or Harkar, and would Harkar's Legendaryness be blocked without a whitelist slot?
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Whitelisting is to enable other people to provide buffs/effects to the user, while Blacklisting is to affect your own personal effects. In short, a blank Whitelist blocks any buffs from being applied, while a blank Blacklist provides total freedom to manipulate your abilities as the Meta Shield allows.
A blank Meta Shield simply shuts down pretty much all metaphysical interaction, but once you can Blacklist/Whitelist people can fine tune their effects.
In short, you would not need to worry about needing a slot to unblock Harkar's stuff or Nameria's stuff. Araahal would also bypass the system for she would count as part of her user to the Meta Shields.
The Froggy Ninja
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How does that work for regionals?
@Leon12431 if we have 3 computers and Atraxas is taking two learning actions does the bonus apply to both or do we need to pick how the computers are divided among the actions?
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Regionals nerf anything metaphysical that is not on a List and their lists work slightly differently. A regional could be set to target only Khornate daemons/corruption at a higher level but ignore other forms of chaos, but could also be set to enable Blank powers instead of nerfing it as a whitelist.
Applied in full per action.
Cardinal Kara Nameria was working on the void fortifications this turn while she is our Faith advisor, can any advisor work on any project?
As the computers we are building now are also boosting Atraxas Martial completing both the void forts and the major SDF upgrade before turn 11 will not require the help of Urma or personal dice so i can make a new plan for the coming turn:
Comprehensive Subterranean and Void Fortifications(Locked) 733/1300:
Harkar (Araahal)
Atraxas (martial)
Nameria
Private Army x6
Create Diplomatic Corps (Locked)45/100 Akiona
Contact the Pathfinders (Locked)58/80 Atraxas diplo
Establish Subsector Spies(Locked) 102/250 , Nalka
Atraxas (intrigue) Look for trustworthy assistants (Intrigue) (Suspicion: 5) (Resource Cost: 20) (Upkeep (Support): 5) (DC: 40) a learning assistant
Militant Citadel(Locked) 193/268 Atraxas stewardship
Dig into planetary education system(Locked) 36/50 Balkavus
Urma The Calculation Heart for Atraxas
Urma The Calculation Heart for Atraxas
Atraxas learning: Study the Invoked Law 0/100
Atraxas (personal): Logistic Optimization0/200
Atraxas (personal): Multi Energy Lance DC: 250
Atraxas (personal): Awakening Core upgrade ?/?
Atraxas Faith: Donate to the Orphanages
Atraxas has 1 Exatari Supercomputer this turn resulting in two dice for his non learning and four for his learning actions
average learning roll = 4D100 +45(i think the 45 applies to all 4 dice) = 380
Next turn this becomes = 10D100 +45(i think the 45 applies to all 4 dice) = 950
So its better to take actions requiring less them 380 points this turn as those can be done in a single turn and leave the ones with cost of 380 to 950 for the turn after that.
Each computer build provides a extra dice so they are almost always worth the action to build them. We might wait till the invasion is over to provide one for advisors that cant help defenses but other then that i say we should aim for a computer for everyone.
As the computers we are building now are also boosting Atraxas Martial completing both the void forts and the major SDF upgrade before turn 11 will not require the help of Urma or personal dice so i can make a new plan for the coming turn:
Comprehensive Subterranean and Void Fortifications(Locked) 733/1300:
Harkar (Araahal)
Atraxas (martial)
Nameria
Private Army x6
Create Diplomatic Corps (Locked)45/100 Akiona
Contact the Pathfinders (Locked)58/80 Atraxas diplo
Establish Subsector Spies(Locked) 102/250 , Nalka
Atraxas (intrigue) Look for trustworthy assistants (Intrigue) (Suspicion: 5) (Resource Cost: 20) (Upkeep (Support): 5) (DC: 40) a learning assistant
Militant Citadel(Locked) 193/268 Atraxas stewardship
Dig into planetary education system(Locked) 36/50 Balkavus
Urma The Calculation Heart for Atraxas
Urma The Calculation Heart for Atraxas
Atraxas learning: Study the Invoked Law 0/100
Atraxas (personal): Logistic Optimization0/200
Atraxas (personal): Multi Energy Lance DC: 250
Atraxas (personal): Awakening Core upgrade ?/?
Atraxas Faith: Donate to the Orphanages
Atraxas has 1 Exatari Supercomputer this turn resulting in two dice for his non learning and four for his learning actions
average learning roll = 4D100 +45(i think the 45 applies to all 4 dice) = 380
Next turn this becomes = 10D100 +45(i think the 45 applies to all 4 dice) = 950
So its better to take actions requiring less them 380 points this turn as those can be done in a single turn and leave the ones with cost of 380 to 950 for the turn after that.
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she has military training and experience so not a normal cardinal.