Sterbelicht - One Sacrifice At A Time Against The Galaxy (40K)

What should your focus for the rest of the Quest be?

  • Mercy (Diplomacy and Expansion)

    Votes: 246 73.2%

  • Ruthlessness (Kick the Duchy in the Balls)

    Votes: 76 22.6%

  • Thule (Yeeni Handholding and Piscarian Cuddling)

    Votes: 131 39.0%
  • Total voters
    336
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Is it hippity hoppity where are our ancestors properties time? Come on Alectai? Let us sing while cogbois discover secrects of burried by the Old Night
 
10ebbor10 said:
Honestly, I still think this is a pretty bad idea? Because it basically enshrines the fact that the way Ogryn get used in Imperial service is child slave labor.
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So you are saying Ogryns are used as child slave labor but it is okay as long as they don't get smarter and realize it. It is still not right leaving them with such low intelligence in this galaxy if we can help it.

Also I'm pretty sure WE, The Glimmering Federation don't treat Ogryns like that, the Imperium being the Imperium is not our fault and we can't fix it. What we can do is help some of our population that has cognitive impairments by researching a solution with Divine Bonuses.
 
LostOne said:
So you are saying Ogryns are used as child slave labor but it is okay as long as they don't get smarter and realize it. It is still not right leaving them with such low intelligence in this galaxy if we can help it.

Also I'm pretty sure WE, The Glimmering Federation don't treat Ogryns like that, the Imperium being the Imperium is not our fault and we can't fix it. What we can do is help some of our population that has cognitive impairments by researching a solution with Divine Bonuses.
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We use them as shock troopers and bulk labor.

Sure, they get treated better in the very same way that your average laborer gets treated better, but we do use them in pretty much the same roles.
 
RaptorusMaximus said:
...yknow, I wanted to do the Ship Design, but...I really like this idea too. Using the power of the Star Child to restore the vitality of two planets which many believed were unusable appeals to me.
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Yeah I can see the appeal. I'm still gonna opt for Ship Design b/c it's what I love, but I recognize where the tides are blowing. So I'm gonna settle for making the Aries-T mundane and pushing the Pegasus Heavy Carrier back a couple centuries.

Excuse me as I cry. :cry:
10ebbor10 said:
Honestly, I still think this is a pretty bad idea? Because it basically enshrines the fact that the way Ogryn get used in Imperial service is child slave labor.
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1st of all, they're not child soldiers, our Ogryn soldiers are adults, it's just that they're dumb as bricks with the enthusiasm of puppies.

2nd of all, making them more intelligent won't be so immoral since if some of them don't want to fight we're not going to force them.
 
10ebbor10 said:
We use them as shock troopers and bulk labor.

Sure, they get treated better in the very same way that your average laborer gets treated better, but we do use them in pretty much the same roles.
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...and?

The reason we use Ogryns in those roles is that they don't have the mental faculties to do any other work. If we make the entire Ogryn species smarter, then they would be able to work in other jobs. I doubt we'd ban Ogryns from doing like...simple clerical work or janitorial stuff or any other job someone with the mental capabilities of a 10-year-old could do. And there will still be plenty of Ogryns willing to work in the military or as general laborers. And Military Ogryns being smarter will just mean they're better able to fight and survive in combat.
 
Alectai said:
-[] [General] Terraform
--[ ] Voxx Primus, Qulach's Forge
---[ ] The abuses wrought upon these worlds remain a great shame, and the fact that even our most optimistic beliefs expect hundreds of years to get marginal, nigh-wasteland level results? The abuses of heretics and the wicked to simply scar these realms forevermore? No. With the Star Child's eye and favor, we will mend these wounds upon creation!
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I am almost completely uninterested in this. Of all the things we could get with a Faith turn, having two more worlds feels like a throw away.

More Research, Ship Design or Song seem better to me. Getting 2 actions for Psytech Hoods or Staves would be great too but I wouldn't want to give up on Sands or Research.

[] Plan: Double Down on the Weird Green Ships
-[] [General] Research x2
--[] Duchy Engine Mysteries
--[] Poke The Weird Ships
--[] Ogryn Neural Cognition Enhancement Studies (Freebie)
-[] [Faith] The Sacred Sands
 
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The Duchy Engines: "the engine patterns of the Duchy likely gleaned from the Black-Green ships" so researching them to get the most out of the Weird Green Ships.

So we will have Star Child guiding both research of the original Necron ships, and how a culture similar to us learned from those ships and were able to partially recreate it.

[X] Plan: Double Down on the Weird Green Ships
-[X] [General] Research x2
--[X] Duchy Engine Mysteries
--[X] Poke The Weird Ships
--[X] Ogryn Neural Cognition Enhancement Studies (Freebie)
-[X] [Faith] The Sacred Sands

I like these too
[X] Plan Blessed Ships and Sands
[X] Plan: Sing the laments of yesterdays
 
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[X] Plan Blessed Ships and Sands
-[X] [Military] Design New Voidship Classes - [Available: Destroyer (1 DP), Frigate (2 DP), Light Cruiser/Freighter (4 DP), Heavy Cruiser/Freighter (8 DP), Temple Ship (25 DP)] - [10 DP]
-[X] [General] Research:
—[X] Poke the Weird Ships
—[X] Duchy Engine Mysteries
-[X] [Faith] The Sacred Sands

[X] Plan: Pushing Back the Darkness of Cruelty and Ignorance
-[X] [General] Terraform
--[X] Voxx Primus, Qulach's Forge
---[X] The abuses wrought upon these worlds remain a great shame, and the fact that even our most optimistic beliefs expect hundreds of years to get marginal, nigh-wasteland level results? The abuses of heretics and the wicked to simply scar these realms forevermore? No. With the Star Child's eye and favor, we will mend these wounds upon creation!
-[X] [General] Research
--[X] Poke The Weird Ships
--[X] Ogryn Neural Cognition Enhancement Studies (Freebie)
-[X] [Faith] The Sacred Sands
[X] Plan: Driving Away the Shadows of Malice
-[X] [General] Research
--[X] Poke The Weird Ships
--[X] Ogryn Neural Cognition Enhancement Studies
-[X] [Military] Design New Voidship Classes
-[X] [General] Terraform
--[X] Voxx Primus, Qulach's Forge
---[X] The abuses wrought upon these worlds remain a great shame, and the fact that even our most optimistic beliefs expect hundreds of years to get marginal, nigh-wasteland level results? The abuses of heretics and the wicked to simply scar these realms forevermore? No. With the Star Child's eye and favor, we will mend these wounds upon creation!
 
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[X] Plan: Sing the laments of yesterdays
-[X] [Psykana] Sing a Song (Choose at least Three below.)
--[X] Humanity Technology Technology Perception Perception
-[X] [Faith] The Sacred Sands
-[X] [General] Research
--[X] Poke The Weird Ships
--[X] Ogryn Neural Cognition Enhancement Studies
 
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@HeroCooky
1) Doesn't "First Temple Ship" qualify for milestone? Or was it eaten by Faith Turn?
2) Are Quad-Faith and rolling 55 only ways to trigger Faith Turn, or are there others? Are singular Faith Actions a thing?
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3) Is there a battleship-sized version of Temple Ship?
 
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[X] Plan: Pushing Back the Darkness of Cruelty and Ignorance

This does everything I want including things I didn't realize I wanted.
 
[X] Plan: Double Down on the Weird Green Ships
[X] Plan: Sing the laments of yesterdays
[X] Plan: Pushing Back the Darkness of Cruelty and Ignorance
 
Ahh I wake up and the vote's already going!
[X] Plan: Let's Refit the Entire Blessed Navy
-[X] [Military] Design New Voidship Classes - 2x
-[X] [General] Research:
--[X] Poke the Weird Ships
--[X] Ogryn Neural Cognition Enhancement Studies

[X] Plan Blessed Ships and Sands
[X] Plan: Pushing Back the Darkness of Cruelty and Ignorance

[X] Plan: Driving Away the Shadows of Malice
-[X] [General] Research
--[X] Poke The Weird Ships
--[X] Ogryn Neural Cognition Enhancement Studies
-[X] [Military] Design New Voidship Classes
-[X] [General] Terraform
--[X] Voxx Primus, Qulach's Forge
---[X] The abuses wrought upon these worlds remain a great shame, and the fact that even our most optimistic beliefs expect hundreds of years to get marginal, nigh-wasteland level results? The abuses of heretics and the wicked to simply scar these realms forevermore? No. With the Star Child's eye and favor, we will mend these wounds upon creation!
 
[X] Plan: Pushing Back the Darkness of Cruelty and Ignorance
-[X] [General] Terraform
--[X] Voxx Primus, Qulach's Forge
---[X] The abuses wrought upon these worlds remain a great shame, and the fact that even our most optimistic beliefs expect hundreds of years to get marginal, nigh-wasteland level results? The abuses of heretics and the wicked to simply scar these realms forevermore? No. With the Star Child's eye and favor, we will mend these wounds upon creation!
-[X] [General] Research
--[X] Poke The Weird Ships
--[X] Ogryn Neural Cognition Enhancement Studies (Freebie)
-[X] [Faith] The Sacred Sands
 
[X] Plan Blessed Ships and Sands

we need to get the Aries up and running again people, while i like to use the faith turn for everything else, this is probably the only time we can upgrade the Aries to be utter bullshit in its roll as a Faith-Lance boat that can and will utterly decimate things larger then itself if given the chance too.
 
RandomDwarf said:
we need to get the Aries up and running again people, while i like to use the faith turn for everything else, this is probably the only time we can upgrade the Aries to be utter bullshit in its roll as a Faith-Lance boat that can and will utterly decimate things larger then itself if given the chance too.
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Do we really need the Aries?

it's just a corvette with a gun and a lance, we can literally build a better one, conventionally, right now.
It does not fulfil any lynchpin role in our doctrine, it does not do anything important.
 
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