We definitely need a squadron leader light cruiser for the Crux frigates to serve as the frontline anchor. And once we get the +2 DP project done we should go for a Libra-Secundus design I think since we'll have gained 4 DP compared to when we first Designed the Libra.
Sterbelicht - One Sacrifice At A Time Against The Galaxy (40K)
- Thread starter HeroCooky
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- They/Them
@HeroCooky , do DP increases effect the quality of the SDF/system bound fleet stuff?
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Likely--especially if they're judging based on our sloop--they think we're an easy target for a broad expansion in their industrial base, and are hoping to make a show of force to get us to submit so they can get cheap food, cheap material, and cheap labor. Broadly, we'd be hard pressed to take them on if we struck first, but if they take a swing at us first... Well, we'll be the ones with the home field advantage, and we can likely make a lot of ground before they can do much back to us.
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
Yes to both questions.
Yeah, broadly. The SDF uses different designs (due to not requiring 40% of the same mass for Warp stuff), but they are close enough to apply.
That's a lot of assumptions there. I would read the update where I introduced them again if I were you.
Standardization might be good to lock in Doctrine rebates for stuff that reaches 1 DP if we ever change doctrine.
But yeah, in general Ship Design Improvements is better.
2 DP instead of one, 2 research cost instead of 4, flexible dp instead of locking in the components.
That, and they likely aren't expecting every system to be as built as we've done.
Also, I have been thinking about making some new SAGs. A Light Sabotage one in prep for when we go up against an enemy with actual logistics, and an Ogryn one b/c they're our big bois and I want to seem them crump some heads.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Thanks for reminding me to check.
So, let me review and repost it here...
So, broadly...
"Ruled by a dude with an incredibly over the top title--which probably means he demands Attention --uses being Ultra Orthodox as the cudgel for obedience from everyone, and are relatively newly expanded, and have gotten the Ork Problem sorted out comfortably enough to maintain a stable population on their training world as live-fire target exercises. All are newly settled but are being built up reasonably quickly, and have an agricultural specialist, a mineral extraction specialist, and a military specialist world on their border systems, but presumably lack the expertise or the slack to establish a permanent presence in Brotar. Despite this, they apparently have decently sophisticated void infrastructure given the presence of proper monitor ships even on a newly settled territory, and have either been provided with--or can construct--void ships in solid numbers based on the military build-up we've observed."
Is that about accurate or is something flying over my head here?
So, let me review and repost it here...
The Protectorate of Neon said:
So, broadly...
"Ruled by a dude with an incredibly over the top title--which probably means he demands Attention --uses being Ultra Orthodox as the cudgel for obedience from everyone, and are relatively newly expanded, and have gotten the Ork Problem sorted out comfortably enough to maintain a stable population on their training world as live-fire target exercises. All are newly settled but are being built up reasonably quickly, and have an agricultural specialist, a mineral extraction specialist, and a military specialist world on their border systems, but presumably lack the expertise or the slack to establish a permanent presence in Brotar. Despite this, they apparently have decently sophisticated void infrastructure given the presence of proper monitor ships even on a newly settled territory, and have either been provided with--or can construct--void ships in solid numbers based on the military build-up we've observed."
Is that about accurate or is something flying over my head here?
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idea for new military action
[] [Other] Construct orbital/void defenses for a planet/system
I got the idea from re-reading our ship and saw our tall white designs, mainly the space stations/outposts.
Cooky can we stick some our ship weaponry on some stations that orbiting a planet as some stationary defenses?
[ ] Plan: Military Catch Up
-[] [Military] Fill Out The System Army Groups - (0/2)
-[] [Military] Construct/Refit A Warp Ship - [Choose a Design]
--[] 2x Crux-class Missile Frigates
--[] 4x Lupus-class Torpedo Destroyers
So here's a plan to really boost our navy. The Aries Secundus Corvettes should stomp all over the enemy corvettes while the Crux should at least be competitive with the enemy frigates. Once the Aries crushes the enemy corvettes they can help cascade down to eliminate the frigates and this will open the way for the Lupus destroyers to bracket and destroy the enemy light cruisers in conjunction with the Libra's strike wings.
-[] [Military] Fill Out The System Army Groups - (0/2)
-[] [Military] Construct/Refit A Warp Ship - [Choose a Design]
--[] 2x Crux-class Missile Frigates
--[] 4x Lupus-class Torpedo Destroyers
So here's a plan to really boost our navy. The Aries Secundus Corvettes should stomp all over the enemy corvettes while the Crux should at least be competitive with the enemy frigates. Once the Aries crushes the enemy corvettes they can help cascade down to eliminate the frigates and this will open the way for the Lupus destroyers to bracket and destroy the enemy light cruisers in conjunction with the Libra's strike wings.
- Location
- Texas
I think we could grab tanks now, and then start increasing infrastructure, unless we really want to go all in to military.
We need a military build-up. If the Protectorate attacks now we'll likely take a significant hit to our mobile fleet even though we'd likely win at Itani. At minimum we need a build order of Lupus destroyers so that we'll have 5 torpedo destroyers total to counter the light cruisers instead of the one we have right now.
- Location
- Belgium
One wildly out-there interpretation is that they could be dealing with civil unrest? I barely have two flimsy pieces of evidence for this, so here goes.
Firstly, he loudly proclaims his rule over the system and mentions heretics, xenos, and witches.
- Pretty standard, but possibly some form of insecurity or challenge, a need to reaffirm his authority.
- In the order of enemies, the heretics were mentioned first/prioritized over the others.
Secondly, the worlds are recently colonized, with one being "overseen" by a noble house.
- Space Australia? I don't know if a world overseen by a specific noble house is all that uncommon, but they could be tasked with keeping the colonists suppressed, hence the need to keep the colonies guarded.
Again, a really weak theory that I don't believe in myself, but it's there. HeroCooky's comment has probably just made me paranoid.
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- Location
- Canada
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- He/Him
You wouldn't need to make separate SAGs for both of those, each SAG has space for 4 units which you can fully customize-you could do 2 Light Sabotage Regiments, and then 2 Medium Mechanized Ogryn Regiments if you wanted, or however you want everything put together.
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- Canada
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- He/Him
They also have their VI 7 SDF but yeah stationing the Battlecolonies there is a reasonable move.
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- They/Them
We should consider spending the action to design and build our first fleet shepherd destroyer either now or very soon, so we have more strategic mobility to react whenever things start popping off either vs Neon or elsewhere.
Crafter of War
The Dorf
- Location
- Bend
Quick question, do we want to post all of our ships at Itani? Cause there's a chance that the Neon fleet jumps in, sees the numbers, and just fucks off back to their worlds. They can just start building more ships or just sit still waiting for us to attack first. Could we have it so that there's some ships to lure them in before we jump the rest of our fleet in?
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Next turn methinks, especially if they take a swipe at us. Our production should outstrip theirs, even if they're using second line surplus ships.
Broadly though, I think "Bait them in and then pull out" is beyond the scope of what we can order. We were already told our fleets on on alert while they're massed up like that, and we'll hopefully get some advanced warning if we have an observer hiding in Brotar so we can start mobilizing our forces.
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Crafter of War
The Dorf
- Location
- Bend
Ah, that's a shame. While Imperials can be dumb at times, I don't think they're the type to look at a fight where they have the numbers and weight disadvantage and go "meh, I can take them".
- Location
- Canada
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- He/Him
It's probably not going to happen this way, but I kinda hope that the Tank Research lets us design a few vehicles like we do our Ships. I expect that it would be below our level of abstraction, but it'd be cool to do at least once to set the tone for whatever core classes of Armored Fighting Vehicles we create.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
They totally are though? It's not like manpower is precious to them.
Ships are, but only to a point
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
It's going to happen that way.
The only thing I am undecided on is if I make sketches mandatory for that section or not.
Huh, interesting. Wonder if we can have this design be our heavy tank:
[X] Plan: Military Catch Up
-[X] [Military] Fill Out The System Army Groups - (0/2)
-[X] [Military] Construct/Refit A Warp Ship - [Choose a Design]
--[X] 2x Crux-class Missile Frigates
--[X] 4x Lupus-class Torpedo Destroyers
Oh, and vote's open.
- Location
- colombia
do tanks only mean tanks,or does it include ligther vehicles?
consider that fiction has a awful lack of any land vehicle that aint a tank