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Starship Design Bureau
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NHO
Dumb is a state of existence
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I think it's giant scanner dish? So when it rotates it's doing both scanning and targeting for the yump. Dunno
Truly the Darkest Timeline. I'm happy to stop watching with Enterprise and just assume everything after that is a cosmic mistake as the universe fractures due to the Temporal Cold War.
Jensaarai
Sing Victory Everlasting
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Honestly, the Crossfield-class looks fine. There's some fiddly or weird bits, like what the internals of the rotating rings look like, but as an entire ship class specially made to use the spore drive I don't have issues with it taking a pretty small step off the beaten path of Star Trek design.
So when we do the Sovereign class should we honor our Ambassor class and make it another chunky boi?
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as chunky as we can make it with 4 nacelles and tetryon plasma engines.
Jensaarai
Sing Victory Everlasting
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Anything but the canon design, at least.
Sovereign was never one of my favorite looking ships tbh. Always looked flat and stretched like it went through photoshop or something.
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Plus any extra nonsense they cook up with their enhanced fabrication facilities.
grimely
Twink Death Sufferer
Sovereign looks like that because it was designed for film, the idea was for it to take up the entire central horizontal slice of the screen when it appeared.
LunaMoth
Wings of Kynareth is my comfort song...
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Jensaarai
Sing Victory Everlasting
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I can understand that there was a lot of thought and intention in the designing of the Sovereign, it just personally looks kinda ugly to me.
But then again, I actually like abominations like the Curry-class, sooo...
2369: Project Intrepid (Retrospective)
Voyager: The Road Home
Admiral Kathryn Janeway
I watched some of the holonovels that came out between Voyager being confirmed alive and the start of regular contact with Starfleet Command - Harry Kim cut together a short compilation. Almost all of them showed the first days as a controlled panic on the verge of going out of control. Harry particularly liked the one where the Maquis crew were all still wearing their normal clothes rather than uniforms. So did I, for that matter. Aside from the lack of uniform and that the author had clearly never spent a day in Starfleet it actually came closest to the reality. The first days were not panic - we don't panic. We solve problems, and that's what it really was. You start with the first problem and get to work, and eventually you find a way home.
Voyager's displacement into the Delta Quadrant caused enormous casualties, but we were fortunate to be able to unify with Chakotay's Maquis and carry on with a crew complement that was only mildly understrength. We were also fortunate to have advantages that any other Starfleet ship wouldn't have been able to use. Voyager had the Emergency Medical Hologram, and the Doctor proved a vital service to the crew over his tenure. She also had the fastest cruise speed in the fleet, which meant a fifty-year journey rather seventy-five. That twenty-five year difference was the distance between hope and possibility, and it kept morale strong when it might have flagged otherwise.
More significantly, Voyager was designed for long excursions. She had eight years of antimatter stored before we would need to resupply, and while spaceborne civilizations were not as common in the Delta Quadrant as they were at home we still ran into enough industrial infrastructure that we could barter for the antimatter we needed to top up the tanks without worrying about it. Our engineering replicator was also large enough to manufacture entire EPS junctions in one go, rather than having to limp along on incremental repairs.
Last but not least, Voyager was smart. She could see furthest and clearest, charting the path forward to Federation Space with enough clarity that we were able to build in minor diversions to local planets and points of interest days in advance of having to make a decision. Even before Stellar Cartography was enhanced with Borg technology it was a vital tool on our journey home. But the ship could do nothing without her crew, and you could have put us all in a fleet of runabouts and I firmly believe we would have found a way.
With the Endeavour-class out of your hands, focus is turning towards your final project. The other teams have also completed the Akira and Prometheus projects, although the latter is slated for some delays while prototype technologies are finalised. The Borg have not materialised, and while Starfleet is still keeping a wary eye out there is less focus on every ship pushing the tactical cutting-edge. That said, Project Sovereign is going to be a challenge.
The mission brief is simple: build an explorer-sized ship capable of fighting the Borg and contending with potential threats to the Federation. Threading the needle of making a ship capable of that high demand with one that can actually be produced in scales of more than a couple a year is going to be what determines if the Sovereign will have a legacy beyond the next few decades.
The first decision to make is the saucer section. The first option is to follow in the footsteps of the Ushaan, scaling up the design to a larger footprint but keeping the dual aft engines and upward-step design of the elevated command decks. This would provide space for a saucer-based shuttlebay and the Ushaan's ventral torpedo launcher.
The second option is to aim for more mass, using a broader hull with an Endeavour-style rising dome and driven by a new centerline-mounted impulse thrust assembly. Two off-axis shuttle bays could use the rear of the saucer while increasing the already substantial radius of the phaser arrays by shifting it closer to the outer edge of the saucer would offset any firepower losses from ditching the extra launcher, setting a new record for phaser strip length in the bargain.
[ ] Ushaan-design.
[ ] Endeavour-design.
Admiral Kathryn Janeway
I watched some of the holonovels that came out between Voyager being confirmed alive and the start of regular contact with Starfleet Command - Harry Kim cut together a short compilation. Almost all of them showed the first days as a controlled panic on the verge of going out of control. Harry particularly liked the one where the Maquis crew were all still wearing their normal clothes rather than uniforms. So did I, for that matter. Aside from the lack of uniform and that the author had clearly never spent a day in Starfleet it actually came closest to the reality. The first days were not panic - we don't panic. We solve problems, and that's what it really was. You start with the first problem and get to work, and eventually you find a way home.
Voyager's displacement into the Delta Quadrant caused enormous casualties, but we were fortunate to be able to unify with Chakotay's Maquis and carry on with a crew complement that was only mildly understrength. We were also fortunate to have advantages that any other Starfleet ship wouldn't have been able to use. Voyager had the Emergency Medical Hologram, and the Doctor proved a vital service to the crew over his tenure. She also had the fastest cruise speed in the fleet, which meant a fifty-year journey rather seventy-five. That twenty-five year difference was the distance between hope and possibility, and it kept morale strong when it might have flagged otherwise.
More significantly, Voyager was designed for long excursions. She had eight years of antimatter stored before we would need to resupply, and while spaceborne civilizations were not as common in the Delta Quadrant as they were at home we still ran into enough industrial infrastructure that we could barter for the antimatter we needed to top up the tanks without worrying about it. Our engineering replicator was also large enough to manufacture entire EPS junctions in one go, rather than having to limp along on incremental repairs.
Last but not least, Voyager was smart. She could see furthest and clearest, charting the path forward to Federation Space with enough clarity that we were able to build in minor diversions to local planets and points of interest days in advance of having to make a decision. Even before Stellar Cartography was enhanced with Borg technology it was a vital tool on our journey home. But the ship could do nothing without her crew, and you could have put us all in a fleet of runabouts and I firmly believe we would have found a way.
With the Endeavour-class out of your hands, focus is turning towards your final project. The other teams have also completed the Akira and Prometheus projects, although the latter is slated for some delays while prototype technologies are finalised. The Borg have not materialised, and while Starfleet is still keeping a wary eye out there is less focus on every ship pushing the tactical cutting-edge. That said, Project Sovereign is going to be a challenge.
The mission brief is simple: build an explorer-sized ship capable of fighting the Borg and contending with potential threats to the Federation. Threading the needle of making a ship capable of that high demand with one that can actually be produced in scales of more than a couple a year is going to be what determines if the Sovereign will have a legacy beyond the next few decades.
The first decision to make is the saucer section. The first option is to follow in the footsteps of the Ushaan, scaling up the design to a larger footprint but keeping the dual aft engines and upward-step design of the elevated command decks. This would provide space for a saucer-based shuttlebay and the Ushaan's ventral torpedo launcher.
The second option is to aim for more mass, using a broader hull with an Endeavour-style rising dome and driven by a new centerline-mounted impulse thrust assembly. Two off-axis shuttle bays could use the rear of the saucer while increasing the already substantial radius of the phaser arrays by shifting it closer to the outer edge of the saucer would offset any firepower losses from ditching the extra launcher, setting a new record for phaser strip length in the bargain.
[ ] Ushaan-design.
[ ] Endeavour-design.
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[X] Endeavour-design.
[X] Endeavour-design
Purely because I think it looks cooler
Purely because I think it looks cooler
Jensaarai
Sing Victory Everlasting
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Don't give the Prometheus team any more ideas...
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[X] Ushaan-design
the ship should be very agile and dodge what shots it can and let the shields take what they can't
the ship should be very agile and dodge what shots it can and let the shields take what they can't
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Thanks to the industrial replicator and experimental nacelles+deflector, not sure how much the antimatter tanks helped though.
[X] Endeavour-design.
The Endeavour still managed to carry torpedo launchers without the saucer based system by sticking them in the secondary hull, and with having the shuttlebay in the back of the saucer instead of taking up almost the entire rear of the ship we could probably fit a rear facing one too.
The Endeavour still managed to carry torpedo launchers without the saucer based system by sticking them in the secondary hull, and with having the shuttlebay in the back of the saucer instead of taking up almost the entire rear of the ship we could probably fit a rear facing one too.
The Ushaan is a scaled-down Sovereign hull. So you can immediately look at how adorable the E looks.
But the longest phaser array is on the Endeavour design? XD