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Aineko said:
I mean, the problem here seems to be that you translate implanted bomb as an offense that must be repaid even against overwhelming odds, as opposed to shit done by a terrifying wizard who you would like to never ever have any further contact with.
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...yes because people have never hunted down the terrifying Wizard who put a curse/spell on them. But, honestly I'm too tired to have a debate over this right now, so I'm just going to disengage, go pop my sleepy-time meds and crash like the sleep-deprived insomniac that I am.
 
Blueshift said:
Her dimensional connection stuff might be handy there for putting up systems even the best Netrunner would have no hope of connecting to.
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It really shouldn't help at all to stop a net attack - a data tunnel through a wormhole is just another data tunnel to a netrunner.

It might make it harder for a net attacker to figure out where to start, though.
 
AzrielIlluminare said:
Like... it just feels like there could've been a better plan to let them live and scare them off at the same time, with out shoving bombs in them. Mostly just because as I've said it goes from 'inconvenience' to 'enemy'.
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That's basically all the bombs are: a scare tactic. I reiterate: they could have been turned into xBD "stars" and tortured to death at length. Or just brutally slaughtered. Instead she made a threat of death upon return to the vicinity in as clear a manner as possible with no lasting ramifications.

This was mercy and it would be readily understood by any of the people of Night City as such. You're focusing on the "bomb in the head" in contemporary terms while ignoring what that message would mean to a resident of Night City. It's called cultural context.
 
Pets wear collars not clothes. Time for dommy mommy to go shopping for a nice collar for Yuki.

Also, she should listen to her inner Bakuda, brain bombs are a useful way of ensuring loyalty among employees of questionable loyalty.
 
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Exile said:
Also, she should listen to her inner Bakuda, brain bombs are a useful way of ensuring loyalty.
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Taylor isn't bad enough at people to fall for that.

Something that perversely helps there is that Taylor has no problem with the idea of not holding the loyalty of most people she deals with. She doesn't trust a lot of people, but she doesn't stress about not trusting them. (Except big blunder with her security guy back in LA.)
 
Words cannot describe how much I adore this chapter. It has everything I could want. Taylor doing doctoring, World building, character interaction, Taylor further building her power base, teasing the Dragoon finally being used.

I love everything I read and just crave more.

Moving on, I wonder how Taylor will implement her Dragoon gang leader plan, will it be remote controlled? Or will she use it as her fourth body? I doubt she has somebody she trust with that much firepower.
 
nice chapter thx for writing it
wonder when netwatch will be asking to rent room to keep an eye on the boys
 
ilalthal said:
Ninja-ing and brain bombing those guys is also going to attract a lot of attention, probably more than the usual bullying and bribing.

Its broadcasting someone is willing to implant bombs in peoples brains for being mildly inconvenient. Nobody in their right mind wants a neighbor like that in their city.
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That is the entirety of corpo culture. The bombs are only sometimes literal. Remember, this is Cyberpunk. You say "Warcrimes", I say "counter-intel checklist".
 
Man, this story is like a fine wine, it just gets better and better. I liked the patient interactions this chap, both with her pet Yuki and the borg. Love the idea of finally using that Chekhov's Dragoon as a fourth body. Also seems both funny and telling that her immediate supervisor, despite being a corpo himself, seems to be a bit leery of her lol.

Not sure why that one guy seems to think that her eviction method is too brutal, considering the easiest and most profitable method would have been to kill them all and rip out their metal. She's being downright generous by Night City standards.
 
I wonder when Taylor get her building set would caker to pure human, cyber werers, Brogs or all of them?
Would she try to get deal with Maxtech and Trauma Team for patients?

reason i think TT and MT would take a deal like that Taylor a high end Doctor , works for(she on leave right? now fired) TT and MT may try to keep in in house but would they say no to a Brog friendly hospital with a good rep within the brog community ?
 
It wasn't mentioned, but I like to think Taylor didn't tell Gloria that she pushed for her to get the job. While teasing her about it might be a little fun, better to let Gloria think she got in entirely on her own (well, and her body's) merits.
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I hope we get to see the Dragoon body doing normal things like flipping synth burgers in an apron, and getting people's reactions to it. Someone goes to meet her and she's doing the borg equivalent of yoga. Refereeing a football match with a cap and whistle (she just makes the sounds with her voicebox, she doesn't use the actual whistle).

There'll be plenty of chances for her to look scary at other times.
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All the elevators are gonna need upgrading. A lift designed for 6 people can only carry 2 borgs. Ones designed for normal people might even have trouble with just Taylor's new body. The ones we see in megabuildings look pretty industrial, but you might not want Gloria's full class heading up for lessons at the same time.
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Do you think Kiwi's first response will be "Where did you get this", or will it be "How did you do this?"
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While the most notable thing about her area is the full-borg presence, there will of course be normals.

There'll be family members that want to stay together.

Tradesmen that offer specialised services will be required. Taylor can't service everyone once things start to get going, and it takes time to train up the newcomers.

Logistically, for many things, especially at the start, baseline helpers will be required.

Those that are heavily augmented, but not actually full replacements, might feel closer or more comfortable there. Some might have a 'you're not really one of us' sentiment but likely there'll be plenty that are understanding.

As a side effect, once support structures are visible, it will likely encourage some to make the change that were too hesitant for various reasons before. Might even be the occasional case of a relatively baseline person wanting to upgrade to fit in.

Most importantly though, the presence of baselines is important to prevent the full-borgs from becoming isolated and developing extreme feelings of separation. While Taylor would like a fortress, I don't think she wants one made of sentient tanks that develop anti-human sentiments.
 
The_Shameful said:
Tradesmen that offer specialised services will be required. Taylor can't service everyone once things start to get going, and it takes time to train up the newcomers.

Logistically, for many things, especially at the start, baseline helpers will be required.
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Because Taylor can't help herself, it will get out of hand. So this will be the first of a chain of Borg Enclaves which will each have a seemingly identical Nurse Joy Doctor Taylor and a DaiOni leader with a security force.
 
Razorfloss said:
By cyberpunk standards she's being a fuckin saint. Life is cheap in setting and she's minimizing death. Any other person would have just killed them and he done with it. She's giving them a chance even if it's cruel.
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Implanting bombs in people is a wild leap in methodology. She also flat out didn't need to. She beat them easily while constrained by not wanting to kill them and she'll have a whole security team soon. The fact this even got into her head shows she has issues.

Aineko said:
I mean, the problem here seems to be that you translate implanted bomb as an offense that must be repaid even against overwhelming odds, as opposed to shit done by a terrifying wizard who you would like to never ever have any further contact with.
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The bomb is still in you even if you leave. Someone could easily hack it and kill you, for example. Or it could just get triggered by some random noise. You don't know.

You'd absolutely scrounge up enough to get a cyberdoc to look at it then come back with a vengeance in a way regular threats wouldn't motivate you to.
Izuku Kageyama said:
Not sure why that one guy seems to think that her eviction method is too brutal, considering the easiest and most profitable method would have been to kill them all and rip out their metal. She's being downright generous by Night City standards.
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The whole point of the story is that Taylor is not from Night City though. She's been trying to cling to better morals and she's clearly failing if she thinks this is a clever way to avoid murder rather than an elaborate way to invent new violations.

Implanting bombs in people because they happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time in the off chance they'll come back so they won't inconvenience your security is not okay. That shouldn't really need explaining.
 
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Nyvis said:
The whole point of the story is that Taylor is not from Night City though. She's been trying to cling to better morals and she's clearly failing if she thinks this is a clever way to avoid murder rather than an elaborate way to invent new violations.

Implanting bombs in people because they happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time in the off chance they'll come back so they won't inconvenience your security is not okay. That shouldn't really need explaining.
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Yeah it's immoral to add a bomb in their heads instead of just shooting them like is standard in Cyberpunk. She should euthanize them and reuse their braincells as an eco friendly alternative to manufacturing chips, hell their entire biomass can be repurposed.

I can imagine the promo videos for her Corp "At Khepri Inc. we pride ourselves as a leading advocate of ISHRU (in situ human resource utilization) for housing-deprived individuals."
 
lukethreadwalker said:
Yeah it's immoral to add a bomb in their heads instead of just shooting them like is standard in Cyberpunk. She should euthanize them and reuse their braincells as an eco friendly alternative to manufacturing chips, hell their entire biomass can be repurposed.

I can imagine the promo videos for her Corp "At Khepri Inc. we pride ourselves as a leading advocate of ISHRU (in situ human resource utilization) for housing-deprived individuals."
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Now, recycling the homeless, that's Cyberpunk. Bombs in head is so Worm Villain, it's out of place :V
 
Nyvis said:
The whole point of the story is that Taylor is not from Night City though. She's been trying to cling to better morals and she's clearly failing if she thinks this is a clever way to avoid murder rather than an elaborate way to invent new violations.

Implanting bombs in people because they happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time in the off chance they'll come back so they won't inconvenience your security is not okay. That shouldn't really need explaining.
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I mean… a chapter ago Taylor went about how it's morally correct to kill people you can reasonably expect to continue doing violent crimes in absence of a working justice system.

At the moment, Taylor's moral compass is pointing somewhere between "brutalist utilitarian" and "cheerfully amoral" and has been for quite a few chapters already. Personally, I think that whole debacle when she had to leave Night City is a good cutoff for her adopting this outlook.

And I would still semi-seriously say she's pacifistic by Night City standards, because the average response to the problem of people squatting in a building you want is to shoot them. This isn't Corpo or Gang stuff, even, this sort of behavior became normalized in Cyberpunk, to the point the view "It's not okay to kill people and take their stuff, even if you can get away with it" would be considered painfully naive by a solid percentage of the worldwide population.
 
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Raiseth said:
I mean… a chapter ago Taylor went about how it's morally correct to kill people you can reasonably expect to continue doing violent crimes in absence of a working justice system.

At the moment, Taylor's moral compass is pointing somewhere between "brutalist utilitarian" and "cheerfully amoral" and has been for quite a few chapters already. Personally, I think that whole debacle when she had to leave Night City is a good cutoff for her adopting this outlook.

And I would still semi-seriously say she's pacifistic by Night City standards, because the average response to the problem of people squatting in a building you want is to shoot them. This isn't Corpo or Gang stuff, even, this sort of behavior became normalized in Cyberpunk, to the point the view "It's not okay to kill people and take their stuff, even if you can get away with it" would be considered painfully naive a solid percentage of the worldwide population.
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But that's also my point? Implanting bombs in head isn't "brutalist utilitarian", it's "comic book villain". The brutalist utilitarian thing would have been to just kill them.
 
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