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SpiraSpira said:
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Honestly I can't really think of a scenario that Jin and co don't find out about this within days at most.

Even if for some reason they decided to keep quiet rather than complain to their handlers or escorts, it would be rather difficult to not notice that the entire Clouds roster suddenly felt the need for a second opinion.

And people tend to talk, especially when it concerns things like malpractice.

(Though also wouldn't be surprised if for a time that 'Corpo brat', got the reputation of being the most popular/voracious girl in the block. Due to all of her 'guests' and how long they tend to stay.)
 
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SpiraSpira said:
Taylor's not a doctor, but she takes patient privacy pretty seriously.
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I'm no doctor myself, but my understanding is that a danger to others is widely considered to supersede doctor patient confidentiality. She just treated a doll because she believed her health was seriously threatened, I think? And she knows that ripper is almost certainly doing this to every doll he 'treats.' It's practically a textbook case where a breach of confidentiality would be considered the ethical choice.

Of course, I'd expect her to at least try to get consent first in any case.
 
klassekatze said:
I'm no doctor myself, but my understanding is that a danger to others is widely considered to supersede doctor patient confidentiality. She just treated a doll because she believed her health was seriously threatened, I think? And she knows that ripper is almost certainly doing this to every doll he 'treats.' It's practically a textbook case where a breach of confidentiality would be considered the ethical choice.

Of course, I'd expect her to at least try to get consent first in any case.
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Problem with that is that it's very likely that the Clouds were sending their Dolls to either Fingers or someone like him for their work.

That is, someone NOT above the board working legally, or feeling the need to do the best job they could. Skipping steps for 50 Euros? Na, he would skip that step to save half an hour, and then use that half hour to do sleezy shit.

So in the case of anyone who used a street ripper doc, I'd say there's no real Patient Confidentiality in the first place.



Taylor on the other hand seems like she's going to be right on the grey line between official and in the shadows. ....like Vic is actually. This setting needs more Vic's.
 
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GamingGeek said:
Problem with that is that it's very likely that the Clouds were sending their Dolls to either Fingers or someone like him for their work.
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So in the case of anyone who used a street ripper doc, I'd say there's no real Patient Confidentiality in the first place.
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...yes? I'm talking about Taylor and what she should feel obliged to do. Whether other rippers care about confidentiality is literally irrelevant to that.

I'm saying that a doctor who does respect confidentality, would nevertheless not be compelled by confidentiality to keep secret that another 'doctor' is doing something like this, because it is foreseeable harm to other people. Ergo, if you know that Fingers or whoever else is fucking around with people's brains (in particular while decieving them about it), you're not ethically obliged to hide it even if you found out via a patient.

Of course there is nuance here - Taylor wouldn't want to alienate her patients. But if push came to shove, that's all I'm saying.
 
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With her capabilities she could start making her own medical equipment over time, probably with research she could even make herself modular prosthetic arms that can do various things, or at least invent the ability to swap out Chrome arms easily. Like making an arm that has the various tools needed for medical stuff, even shifting around to give her access to the larger tools. Kind of like Forge from X-men Evolution, his fake forearm could open up and become all kinds of needed tools.

She could also likely improve her eyes to where they can detect weapons and shift passively between vision modes to scan for irregularities, which could be a background process with her mainly on normal vision mode.

I wouldn't doubt if she could maintain a dialogue with her doctor to funnel improvements to the current medical community without giving herself away, while leading him through breakthrough's through questions about medical theories and such. Might even be able to figure out his improvements to the nervous system.

Though I am wondering if the research and working examples on Artificial muscles and such will spark some ideas in her, maybe a suit of artificial muscles that enhance your abilities while worn? Could be a good way to surprise someone who figures that you don't have enhancements like that, and bam you hit him with more strength than they thought you had. Also she needs to be aware of guys who can hack her implants or shut them down by breaching her systems, if she figures out how to make a back up artificial brain...

Well that would likely lead to her power pushing her to figure out things like an artificial body for it, which could allow her to redesign the body tank that she has in her dad's storage. Basically a mannequin body that she can call in for back up if she gets in trouble.

Really if she found out about Soul Killer, and discovered the Relic... She could probably do something to actually help V, maybe make an artificial body/clone that V could inhabit, and probably sculpt V's old body into a male or even female Johnny Silverhand...
 
Knightowl 4183 said:
Though I am wondering if the research and working examples on Artificial muscles and such will spark some ideas in her, maybe a suit of artificial muscles that enhance your abilities while worn? Could be a good way to surprise someone who figures that you don't have enhancements like that, and bam you hit him with more strength than they thought you had. Also she needs to be aware of guys who can hack her implants or shut them down by breaching her systems, if she figures out how to make a back up artificial brain...

Well that would likely lead to her power pushing her to figure out things like an artificial body for it, which could allow her to redesign the body tank that she has in her dad's storage. Basically a mannequin body that she can call in for back up if she gets in trouble.
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My impression from that scene was her power flat out said "full body conversions are not medical tinkering, they're vehicles, and you're getting nothing there." Suits would also be vehicles.

So my intuition is that making a suit, even from 'subcomponents' she developed in cyberware, would be prohibitively difficult. Like, designing and building one as a non-tinker difficult. There's presumably a reason we don't see exos on every street corner, despite the wide availability of cyberware for garage inventors to repurpose - I think it's just not a good investment of time/money/resources.
 
SpiraSpira said:
I'd be very interested to see if anyone has conducted a post-mortem pathological brain evaluation on multiple cyberpsycho exemplars
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This seems like the lead-up to Taylor deciding she needs samples to examine herself.
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When the kereznikov was working at its half setting, it was similar to experiencing everything at twice the normal speed, which wasn't as bad as almost three times.
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Slowing time to 33%/ 50% is better than/ on par with most of the sandy's in the 2077 game, though of course there's a difference due to setting/ implementation and all that (and obviously the kereznikov is completely different in-game). Still, the 5-10k price guess seems low for what it can do (though granted I don't really have a good understanding of the price scales in night city), I assume part of this is the difficulty in finding a buyer that could/ would use something so dangerous.
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I glanced at Mr Pegpig, the pigeon, and wondered.
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A name!
Love the idea the first major change to the setting Taylor might make is because she doesn't want to lose her pet/test subject. The rest of the reasoning is an excuse and even the author can't convince me otherwise.

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So, Himiko didn't question how Taylor knew her name. Part of that might be due to her current state, and while knowledge of optics with Facial Recognition with NCPD database cross-checking might be public knowledge, it's not necessarily universal knowledge since Vic had to explain it to V (or I think he did? I could be misremembering).

Now, earlier Taylor described Clouds as marketing towards "high-end clientele, especially those with crippling social anxiety", and hey, T in the sharp clothes with the slightly awkward speech and easily teased seems to fit that.

As such, I imagine there'll be an awkward moment where Himiko thinks T was browsing the menu, even if her talking with Evelyn makes it clear she wasn't intending to visit (any time soon at least).

Speaking of Evelyn, seems Himiko has some level of trust if she picked her as the friend before she knew it would just be outside her workplace. Though, I suppose it was a combination of thinking her status would protect her and underestimating what T has packed into her body.

Taylor really should have specified "Hey I'm doing this for you since you're kind of a friend", things are lining up nicely for events to come.

I do like that Taylor's making so many friends everywhere, she's making all kinds of connections.
 
The_Shameful said:
Still, the 5-10k price guess seems low for what it can do (though granted I don't really have a good understanding of the price scales in night city), I assume part of this is the difficulty in finding a buyer that could/ would use something so dangerous.
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If it's seen as the Sandy's inferior cousin that will drive you up the wall at best, make you go psycho at worst, that might've really hurt the pricetag. Perpetual slomo ain't nobody's idea of a fun time. Plus, that was probably the price he would get for it as is- meaning it hadn't been refurbished or examined for defects or damage.
 
Wow, a Kerznikov.

A stable Kerznikov user is like preem special forces shit. Or crazy corpo ninja shit I guess.

Sure, gangers and edgerunners might be able to install some but they were crazy even before they started. Normal crazies will take Sandy like a normal person.



And then there's the casual mention of neural plasticity tinkertech level drugs.

Sure, they will help adapt. And also she just might be able to learn ALL THE THINGS in a paltry few years. As a side gig. Out of boredom.

And I mean doing cutting edge stuff without what her passenger gives her.

I mean she will theoretically be living 60 hours a day. Let's say 50 to include things like transit times, socialization and sleeping in.

Then slap improved ability to learn on top of that. And whatever other tinkertech bullshit she comes up with.


I can see it now.

She's in the middle of doing emergency surgery right there in the street when a dozen scavs try to get a drop on them.

A blur of movement in between surgery steps.

Guns and cyberlimbs fall apart.

"I'm busy, wait your turn."

TAC team starts to respond to the... threat?

"Taylor please, we haven't been able to shoot at anyone in weeks, if we don't use up the bullets we'll get a budget cut."
 
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Get that bitch a sword. Bitches love swords.

Especially when they have bullet time. Then they can deflect bullets.
 
alexandert said:
This chapter was a hoot.
Say @SpiraSpira, was Taylor's decision to work at Trauma Team influenced by you being Trauma Team AV pilot IRL?
Also Taylor+kerenzikov+monowire is a very escalation prone.
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Maybe a little, I certainly have a lot of stories that I could cyberpunkify that seem stranger than fiction but actually happened. We've had a spate of instant karma transports recently, like the guy who was pistol whipping his "friend" and shot himself.
 
Akasha said:
Get that bitch a sword. Bitches love swords.

Especially when they have bullet time. Then they can deflect bullets.
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Who needs a sword when you have a cyberdeck? There is no need to deflect bullets when the potential shooters are all zapped/burned/poisoned/fried/exploded/suicided/mind controlled.
 
In CP2020 you must choose between Sandevistan or Kerenzikov (The meta depends on the GM if they really like their ambushes). It just affects initiative so SOLOs don't really need it to stay alive unlike the other classes, so you can easily end with a corpo with mil ware and I find that hilarious.
 
SpiraSpira said:
(I'm a pilot at an air ambulance company)
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You fly for Trauma Team in RL?! :cool2:

inbred martian said:
This slip of a girl who wants to be a med tech getting a mil grade chrome piece...
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This is something I found funny throughout CP: Edgerunners, hyping up David's Sandevistan as 'milspec'. I have a hobby where something being 'milspec' is used as an advertising tagline in the civilian market. However, if you ask anyone who served in said military what they think of milspec... LOL, your ears are going to get blistered!
 
klassekatze said:
I'm no doctor myself, but my understanding is that a danger to others is widely considered to supersede doctor patient confidentiality. She just treated a doll because she believed her health was seriously threatened, I think? And she knows that ripper is almost certainly doing this to every doll he 'treats.' It's practically a textbook case where a breach of confidentiality would be considered the ethical choice.

Of course, I'd expect her to at least try to get consent first in any case.
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You're right, but… She doesn't know yet if mentioning it would put her in danger. She thinks that there is a possibility the Tyger Claws support this behavior, or if not that then the manager of Clouds might have more pull than he actually does. It will likely depend on what she learns if other dolls show up. One case might be a accident, maybe they didn't know how bad a doc this ripper was, etc.
 
Damn 6k word pass so quickly! The way that the story is setting the building block for the future is super interesting! I wonder if Evelyn is is the one from the game, if she is, maybe that how Taylor will be rope into 2077? Or maybe that's not in the plan. Still make me wonder if Taylor could do something for V. Also, she'll need to dipp into the back alley ripper scene soon or do he own surgery know herself(bur she's not equip yet for that). Can't wait for more!!
 
Rhostadt said:
This is something I found funny throughout CP: Edgerunners, hyping up David's Sandevistan as 'milspec'. I have a hobby where something being 'milspec' is used as an advertising tagline in the civilian market. However, if you ask anyone who served in said military what they think of milspec... LOL, your ears are going to get blistered!
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In RL, ya that is pretty much the case.

For Cyberpunk or games like Shadowrun, Milspec is more correctly synonymous with 'Corpspec' then anything else. The Corps have functionally infinite money, and they love to spend it on making sure that they have the best toys. So something getting called Milspec is actually really damn good, in this context.
 
Merlinoi said:
Damn 6k word pass so quickly! The way that the story is setting the building block for the future is super interesting! I wonder if Evelyn is is the one from the game, if she is, maybe that how Taylor will be rope into 2077? Or maybe that's not in the plan. Still make me wonder if Taylor could do something for V. Also, she'll need to dipp into the back alley ripper scene soon or do he own surgery know herself(bur she's not equip yet for that). Can't wait for more!!
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She is the same Evelyn. They werent too specific on her age in game but she was so sophisticated that I figured she was at least in her early 30s in 2077. I didn't think Yorinobu would be impressed by just some young girl.
 
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