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I mean for all we know we're already inside the event horizen of a black hole, it's not like we can escape the solar system at this time to check.

Just saying, depending on the size they might not even know until it's too late. We're still using best-guess math to try and understand what's inside that sphere of warped space that we can observe.
 
I'm not sure if this is canon but it is in my story:
Bad schooling, which doesn't focus on literacy. 9 year olds would be able to do more math but reading?

With universal optical-character recognition and read back available on almost any set of optics or phone/pads, reading is considered an arcane skill not necessarily taught to the average student.
To be fair, I question whether you could use read-back on text (on signage and your own HUD) for 20 years without learning to read at least poorly by accident. That's the same principle behind picture books with buttons that talk.

Which isn't to say the schools don't definitely suck, but it arguably makes more sense than if they'd dropped arithmetic, say.

I mean for all we know we're already inside the event horizen of a black hole, it's not like we can escape the solar system at this time to check.
Unless you assume the entire observable universe (many many galaxies) are all within said black hole including their black holes and that for some reason everything inside the event horizon behaves exactly as we'd expect for matter outside, then we can conclude from said observation data (light shift, etc) that we're not.
 
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I'm not sure if this is canon but it is in my story:
Bad schooling, which doesn't focus on literacy. 9 year olds would be able to do more math but reading?

With universal optical-character recognition and read back available on almost any set of optics or phone/pads, reading is considered an arcane skill not necessarily taught to the average student.

It might still be taught in school to the gifted, or incurable deaf, though.

I just wanted to emphasise that public school here sucks.
To be fair, I question whether you could use read-back on text (on signage and your own HUD) for 20 years without learning to read at least poorly by accident. That's the same principle behind picture books with buttons that talk.

Which isn't to say the schools don't definitely suck, but it arguably makes more sense than if they'd dropped arithmetic, say.

I don't see why they learn math. We have the calculator app for that nowadays. Math Apps can do graphs, integrals, derivatives, etc. Netrunners might need it to help with programming. Maybe. They do most of their work on their cybernetics anyway. I suppose if they're hacked a Safe-Mode with minimalist interface require their meatware to do the actual work of reading texts and calculating stuff (shudders) manually.

Just like we're supposed to keep a few books made of paper for times of emergency when our phones are klepped or if there's a power outage for a few hours.

Unless you assume the entire observable universe (many many galaxies) are all within said black hole including their black holes and that for some reason everything inside the event horizon behaves exactly as we'd expect for matter outside, then we can conclude from said observation data (light shift, etc) that we're not.
One popular theory claims the Big Bang is what happened when a Black Hole in a superuniverse got too fat.
 
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I don't see why they learn math. We have the calculator app for that nowadays.
"Tyger Claws came! They killed everyone, man , they killed everyone!"

"Calm down, how many were there?"

"Uh... one, two... many? Like, you know."

"No, I don't know."

:p

Between distrust of artificial intelligence and "too smart" systems and the retro-tech nature of the setting, a guy who can't do basic math is gonna have serious problems. Sure, we could say they can count to 10 but can't do addition-- but that's barely better.

They're competing for absolute shit jobs, which by their very nature aren't heavily automated, because if the employer was willing to automate they'd either not hire humans or be even more picky.

A guy who can't do basic addition will be significantly slower at countless tasks. Remember V gets Kiroshis, 'top shelf' and it still has to learn what he wants over time. Some poor guy with basic neuralware at best, is he gonna have to bust out a calculator app to track how many loops of wire he's putting in each baggie?

And if he's getting enough eddies to scrap by, is he busting out a calculator every time he needs to figure out if he can afford to buy scop noodles at the stand or not?

If he just doesn't, he could lose his job, or starve to death before his next paycheck, or just get scammed left and right because he lacks basic mathematical intuition that would say "these numbers don't seem right." Which can also end fatally.

And for his employers, it would increase errors, which costs them money. So they will fire him in preference to the guy who went to a school that taught basic math.

No calculus, that's fine, but no way they wouldn't be taught basic arithmetic.
 
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To be fair, I question whether you could use read-back on text (on signage and your own HUD) for 20 years without learning to read at least poorly by accident. That's the same principle behind picture books with buttons that talk.

Which isn't to say the schools don't definitely suck, but it arguably makes more sense than if they'd dropped arithmetic, say.
True, and it's reminds me of the system a lot of schools have (unfortunately in my opinion) taken to teaching reading, which is to use so-called "sight words" rather than teaching phonics. In other words, teaching children to recognise a word like an ideograph (like a Chinese character, say) instead of teaching the sounds each letter is supposed to signify and how they can be combined into phonemes.

I don't know why this type of teaching has grown popular, but it fucks up the foundation of reading in my opinion and it forces the child to basically teach themselves phonics unless they only want to be barely literate.
 
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True, and it's reminds me of the system a lot of schools have (unfortunately in my opinion) taken to teaching reading, which is to use so-called "sight words" rather than teaching phonics. In other words, teaching children to recognise a word like an ideograph (like a Chinese character, say) instead of teaching the sounds each letter is supposed to signify and how they can be combined into phonemes.

I don't know why this type of teaching has grown popular, but it fucks up the foundation of reading in my opinion and it forces the child to basically teach themselves phonics unless they only want to be barely literate.
As a Dyslexic person this type of teaching was the bane of my existence. If my parents had not been good friends with a tutor that specialized in child development that taught me the phonics I probably would be illiterate. The Cyberpunk version is probably even worse and breaks down any one with a learning disability and a non six/seven figure family income into tiny little pieces.
 
True, and it's reminds me of the system a lot of schools have (unfortunately in my opinion) taken to teaching reading, which is to use so-called "sight words" rather than teaching phonics. In other words, teaching children to recognise a word like an ideograph (like a Chinese character, say) instead of teaching the sounds each letter is supposed to signify and how they can be combined into phonemes.

I don't know why this type of teaching has grown popular, but it fucks up the foundation of reading in my opinion and it forces the child to basically teach themselves phonics unless they only want to be barely literate.

The problem is that english spelling makes zero sense whatsoever so teaching sounds from letters is more likely to confuse kids than educate them :V
 
"Okay, next you need to mix hydraulic fluid, gunpowder and chewing gum until they combine into a superconductive gel, then use that to repair the patient's brain implant by-"

"Whoa, wait, slow down-"

That's a good question, considering how weird her shard is already, could Taylor proxy tinker? Leaving even her customer baffled at how she lead them to turn a left shoe, an old penny and 2 feet of duct tape into a working temporary liver?
 
That's a good question, considering how weird her shard is already, could Taylor proxy tinker? Leaving even her customer baffled at how she lead them to turn a left shoe, an old penny and 2 feet of duct tape into a working temporary liver?
If you think about it, every time she uses a tool she is "proxy tinkering" - the question is whether the human she is instructing is a "tool" capable of performing with the necessary precision for a given project.

Assembling something relatively sane and timing-insensitive - probably no problem. Smelting up a volatile nanocrystalline composite, they're probably going to fail to execute as required.
 
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If you think about it, every time she uses a tool she is "proxy tinkering" - the question is whether the human she is instructing is a "tool" capable of performing with the necessary precision for a given project.
It's possible Trauma Telehealth might have a TeamViewer-style app to let the doctor remote-control your cyberarms to perform the procedure themselves.
 
It's possible Trauma Telehealth might have a TeamViewer-style app to let the doctor remote-control your cyberarms to perform the procedure themselves.
Issue then might be her shard-let targetting the patient? But, cyberdoc shard-let, so I'd hope doing remote work is feasible. Really don't want to accidentally mod someone nearby, instead...
 
The problem is that english spelling makes zero sense whatsoever so teaching sounds from letters is more likely to confuse kids than educate them :V
The problem with English isn't that it's spelling rules don't make sense. It's more that it takes spelling rules from so many places you have pre roman Gaelic, then the Latin influences from the Roman occupation and then Germanic influences from the Saxon invasion. Finally you have French influences from the Norman invasion. English spelling rules are actually surprisingly constant. If you want a language where the spelling rules make zero sense take a look at French where one of the kings commissioned the official French dictionary and then payed for it by the letter so the scibes added letters basically at will resulting in a metric ton of silent letters that follow pretty much no pattern.
 
The problem with English isn't that it's spelling rules don't make sense. It's more that it takes spelling rules from so many places you have pre roman Gaelic, then the Latin influences from the Roman occupation and then Germanic influences from the Saxon invasion. Finally you have French influences from the Norman invasion. English spelling rules are actually surprisingly constant. If you want a language where the spelling rules make zero sense take a look at French where one of the kings commissioned the official French dictionary and then payed for it by the letter so the scibes added letters basically at will resulting in a metric ton of silent letters that follow pretty much no pattern.

The problem is that unless you have some deep etymology knowledge, you have no idea which of the spelling rules apply in a given case. Knowing it's because English is an accumulation of languages won't save you unless you're a linguist. This is particularly annoying if you're a second language speaker learning vocabulary from the written word, like me.
 
It's possible Trauma Telehealth might have a TeamViewer-style app to let the doctor remote-control your cyberarms to perform the procedure themselves.

That may be possible, given things like the suicide quickhack exist, but for something that delicate that takes potentially hours, you would probably need to use someone with a doll chip to perform the operation. Hmm, I wonder if that is a new business opportunity for Taylor to get into with her friends upstairs. Dolls that have either a medical library/doctor personality overlay or that can be used for remote operations through telepresence with real healthcare workers would probably be a good way for the dolls to make money without their normal activities.
 
are Doll alteregoes based on the Soulkiller tech? The human's personality is suppressed and a different personality stored on a remote database between sessions animate them instead. What else can it be but Soulkiller?
 
I'd say that you can get everything you need to convincingly fake a personality for something like this from Braindances. The point of Dolls is that there is no emergent behavior and the client is in total control of everything.
 
Ok, I got to ask.

Why does Taylor think she needs credentials to be a back ally doctor? Ripper isn't really a "certified" position.

I mean, she even got her gear from a ripper that she noticed was some guy with his credential revoked on the run from a bunch a crimes in Europe.

If anything, she needs some street cred and some capital, which she has.
 
Ok, I got to ask.

Why does Taylor think she needs credentials to be a back ally doctor? Ripper isn't really a "certified" position.

I mean, she even got her gear from a ripper that she noticed was some guy with his credential revoked on the run from a bunch a crimes in Europe.

If anything, she needs some street cred and some capital, which she has.

I imagine a large part of it is safety and security. Some back-alley guy who barely knows scalpels from forceps, no one's going to care very much if they die or get disappeared. An actual doctor that knows what they're doing and has the education and experience to be good and confident at what they do? A lot more valuable and worth keeping around. Also worth paying more since you're trusting the doc to root around in your insides and ensure you don't die, get infected, or any number of other complications.
 
Ok, I got to ask.

Why does Taylor think she needs credentials to be a back ally doctor? Ripper isn't really a "certified" position.

I mean, she even got her gear from a ripper that she noticed was some guy with his credential revoked on the run from a bunch a crimes in Europe.

If anything, she needs some street cred and some capital, which she has.
She's, I suspect, still got a memory of the qualified medical doctor system from Brockton Bay, even if that culture was arguably on its last legs. So, seven years training to start being a doctor, way before you specialise.

Also, Taylor, good at doing things, under pressure, not so good at the self-image side. I get the impression she's not completely internalised just how ridiculously good she is at the medical stuff. Then, from a slightly different viewpoint, she wants to be able to justify, in lots of cases, just how good she is.

Taylor? Not, yet, a complete master of joined-up thinking :)

(Mind you, even after many decades of practice, some arguably never get the hang of it...)
 
I imagine a large part of it is safety and security. Some back-alley guy who barely knows scalpels from forceps, no one's going to care very much if they die or get disappeared. An actual doctor that knows what they're doing and has the education and experience to be good and confident at what they do? A lot more valuable and worth keeping around. Also worth paying more since you're trusting the doc to root around in your insides and ensure you don't die, get infected, or any number of other complications.

Actual doctors work in the dog eat dog world of corporate politics. A world thats inaccessible to most people.

Taylor already has rep with the Tiger Claws and her building in general.




She's, I suspect, still got a memory of the qualified medical doctor system from Brockton Bay, even if that culture was arguably on its last legs. So, seven years training to start being a doctor, way before you specialise.

Also, Taylor, good at doing things, under pressure, not so good at the self-image side. I get the impression she's not completely internalised just how ridiculously good she is at the medical stuff. Then, from a slightly different viewpoint, she wants to be able to justify, in lots of cases, just how good she is.

Taylor? Not, yet, a complete master of joined-up thinking :)

(Mind you, even after many decades of practice, some arguably never get the hang of it...)

That is a fair point.


Thou by the time she gets good enough for her standards the corps will be making her an offer she can't refuse.
 
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