I was going to comment on that edit by saying that, if you're going to offer to do that, might as well just go the whole mile and try to find Yui's Heart's Egg.
OOC it is still a open question whether said Egg exists, and whether if it existed bringing it back is even relevant to the type of backlash small-Yui got from whatever Asahina did?
So is the possibility of Amu being able to help with the upkeep. And we don't even know what exactly it is that Kana does to Yui.
The former, because we can learn quickly and already have dots in the required skills, and because the latter is potentially matching apples to oranges?
We don't actually know we have the required skills. We know Kana has more dots in Mind Control than Amu and may have specialties besides.
It would be, but sadly my inference that JPs is not part of Manticore because JPs know more about what they are doing than Manticore had many holes poked through it by the QM; and if we can't rule that possibility out passing smol!Yui to JPs could theoretically just be giving Manticore leverage on the Scavengers - and obviously Kana and Naomi is not going to agree with that if there is such a risk.
Yeah, although the latter isn't exactly necessary as long as things don't get so extreme we get into this situation again, since obviously people with Shadows/Personas can change normally and not suffer from such problems - there must be a qualitative difference somewhere.
QM commented in this idea before:
Apparently, such a thing "might be overestimating them".
I'll update my vote so that it first tries to convince Kana to accept her desires and tell her they aren't wrong, but I'm keeping the offer of finding Yui's Heart's Egg at the end. Need to find a way to word it, would probably involve showing off her own multiple Charas.
I agree, in a more realistic interpretations of things you can't shore up a psychological weakness in one talk and have it stick; though you can build the foundation to have it gradually be more resistant over time.
Because it's a Midnight Channel type place that allows / causes the Shadow split to happen.
I'm using Mitsuo as the baseline example here, he lost the 'goodness' in him, for lack of a better word, when he continued to reject the Shadow past the boss fight completion.
She'd probably be fine with either—um, now. But it's probably more the latter. While Shadow Kana is obviously in a privileged position, she can't read her mind; attempts at doing so give wrong results such as "Kana would never want to abandon Yui-chan".
It's not a case of Kana not wanting to help Yui2, it's that she doesn't want it to be a responsibility placed on her (like her mother placed it on her, and her 'failure' to fix the damage).
Naomi 'got to her'.
Baughn, was this person a guard, test subject, scientist or some other position?
Right, better recalibrate closer to the middle then?
Security guard. Riku was there to keep roving bands of (perfectly ordinary) children from deciding that the office building next to the park is a fun place to play.
Just to clarify, is this the guy who went to get Kana from the station, or someone else?
Though this is why initiation rituals and "blooding" are a thing. Get that previously-clean surgeon to try an "experimental procedure" on promise of fame and recognition that ends up killing a child and he's liable to end up feeling guilty enough to be persuaded that he's already in too deep to back out. (....Which come to think of it, might be what both Asahi and Naomi ended up doing to Kana.)
Probably someone else, since according to the driver his usual job involved this:
So, likely not a security guard.
Someone else. He isn't, um, important...
That would hit too close to home. I couldn't borrow her character without making you think I borrowed the (already rather similar) cosmology.
1) I think we have other indications that the JPs are not secretly backing Manticore 2) the relevant comparison is between us and the JPs, not between the JPs and Manticore 3) our standard for "success" is to keep smol!Yui from being killed by her Shadow, whereas Asahi was probably only interested in the survival of big!Yui - note that Kana seems to have managed this alone, it doesn't seem to be all that hard, comparatively speaking 4) I actually think these experiments (and especially the failures) are an indication that Manticore doesn't really understand what they're doing
Is she still being killed by her Shadow? We still don't know what Kana actually does to Yui when she sleeps, I got the impression Yui's Shadow trying to kill her was a one-off event, not necessarily what happens every time Small Yui goes to sleep.
Like? It's not (just) us questers you need to convince, it's Kana and "It's not paranoia if they are really out to get you" Naomi here.
I was using "JPs are competent, Manticore aren't" as a basis for that conclusion (because if they were linked they would have shared), and Baughn pointed out the apparent difference might not be true, so...
Interestingly enough the idea of using chara might indeed be a pathway that could help. In the story post it was noted that Yui was just missing parts and thus in implication wasn't complete enough to work anymore. Chara meanwhile are entities that have in principle enough working parts, see for instance Miki managing to transition to an increasingly real girl. So if one could recover a chara of some kind and then merge them with help of the locket, perhaps with some help from the key as well for precision editing... Then it certainly in theory would grant a pathway to fixing a broken person.
Assuming JP is anything like the one from the original series, then I'd say child experimentation excludes them as being someone who'd work with Manticore. After all, just after the apocalypse happened even parts of their top leadership still balked at the idea of recruiting powerful teenagers to their fighting force for reasons like that it would be dangerous to them. Of course they also weren't part of the org in the first place, etc. So there are more reasons, but still, they were trying to protect them.
Right. Point still stands that since Amu, Kana and Naomi do not know this information, I doubt this suggestion would be received particularly well (though just saying it shouldn't hurt too badly in a calmer scenario).
