You're right, 4 weeks to rank 5. Same point applies, it -might- be possible to justify it if the specialty is so useful that it is better than having rank 5 the base skill.
I guess it would depend on the specialization.
Mechanically speaking, Overgrowth is right after that on the list if we want to go for the 4 dot blackboxed event (assuming Overgrowth counts as well @Baughn)
Unfortunately that sounds like a case-by-case nightmare here, I don't think its a good idea.
That was something I was wondering about. Though it wasn't clear to me if there would be enough such specialties for this to be unmanageable in this case. But it is a clear drawback of that particular idea, yeah.
Craft (Handwork) is the kind of limitation that isn't really a limitation, digital software aside - had confirmed last time that it also applies to Psionic usage, but I cannot think of anything similarly generally applicable for Psionics.
Craft is weird. It's not one ability - it's a giant pile of separate abilities all lumped together under the banner of "Craft". Miki's Craft (Handwork) looks like a nonstandard Craft Ability rather than a specialty. Apparently Baughn decided Miki's talents didn't fit well enough into the standard Craft Ability division, so they decided to just make one up.
Nope. On a side note, we are limited to exactly 3 specialties, right?
The dots go up to 5 instead of 3, though, and for it to be a specialty, it would have to be a specialty of a particular Craft Ability. Baughn seems to have gotten mixed up somewhere.
Agreed, I was more hedging against scenarios where the roads were too broken up for a vehicle, but also wanted to have a semblance of stealth too (flight is not subtle, teleporting needs 3 dots & accompanying info gathering ability)
.....I think this one is actually called "Dreamwalking" on all the stat sheets we've seen.
Rank 3 Teleport is actually still cheaper.
Drive is the replacement for Ride in modern settings IIRC
Firearms and Drive show up as Abilities in Shards of the Exalted Dream, but they don't replace Archery or Ride. The system just has more Abilities in settings where those are used. (Piloting is entirely homebrew.)
I don't think there's any such rule. Everyone gets a free Linguistics specialty in their native dialect, even with Linguistics 0.
Even if we started summoning demons, I don't think we'd actually want to ride them.
I dunno, just imagine Amu flying around on this big boy:
Overgrowth counts differently. Some would say negatively.
I wonder then if the event is figuring out what's going on with Overgrowth?
But Utau doesn't have Astral Projection? (Though you could argue that Utau's Charas don't fit into the normal mold, Utau still has Chara Change/Transform as a capability)
| Dice Pool Sources[1] | Target Difficulty | Intended Effect[2] | Comments |
| Charisma + Presence + Mind Control | variable/opposed | Psionic brute force UMI beam | Less effective on demons than on humans (but still effective) and is NOT subtle. Requires transformation[3] (1WP) but can be spammed afterwards? |
| Strength + Thrown + Telekinesis | variable | Physical missile moving at Sufficient Velocity | No confirmation for this one, but that should be how it works? (Though overpenetration is a thing too, and I'm not sure if the Telekinesis component is soft-gated by Mental Range) |
| Perception + Investigate + Clairvoyance | variable | Retrocognitive Flashes (min 1 dice) | Mind the Botch chances please |
| Perception + Integrity + Teleportation | variable | Teleportation of yourself/useful stuff around | Please don't Botch this roll |
| Wits + Medicine + Biokinesis | 1-2. Maybe 3 for the really nasty cases? | First Aid | Medicine can sometimes be replaced with Lore, but not in First Aid scenarios. |
| Charisma + Socialise (Tsumugu) | 1 | Not get her father to freak out while being concerned? | (Chapter 1.10, presumably the DC was lowered by being his daughter, and her having a clear idea of what she is doing?) |
| Stamina + Occult + Illusion | 5 | Brute Force patch a rift in reality using Illusion | |
| Charisma + Integrity + Empathy | 5 | Close the rift by drawing on the Collective Unconscious/collective weight of those around/Sea of Souls through Empathy and Charisma, and then using Integrity to bind things together long enough to work | |
| Dex + Thrown + Illusion | 2 | Crowd Control of flying enemies | Illusion instead of Telekinesis because the Stunt used mainly involved making stuff to affect the fight |
| Manipulation + Socialise | 1? Opposed? | Hide the everything behind the Scavenger's situation, without letting her parents know she's hiding things | Goes against Amu's current character to pull off, it's not happening without more character development |
| Perception + Awareness + Illusion | 2 | Use a Illusion to disguise something beyond her line of sight and moving somewhat unpredictably | Autosuccess at Illusion 2? |
| Perception + Investigation + Ragged Crossroads (Utau) | variable | Investigate stuff to find useful information | (See the Variant Skills Informationals for details, RC is not always applicable) |
| Perception + Occult + Dreamwalking (Ami/Amu) + Dreamwalking (Navigation, Ami only) | 1 | Navigate (Astral Projection) to the location of a unshielded and relatively close by call for help | |
| Wits + Integrity + Mind Control | 4 | Call up a Chara without a Shadow immediately attacking you afterwards | Note: Amu's base self is a Shadow, which is why (most) Shadows don't automatically attack her to begin with, not sure if the same extends to Ami. |
| Dex + Integrity + Telekinesis | 3 | Stop unintentionally floating when distracted by Fog | Fine-Control TK is harder than usual uses of TK as always |
| Wits + Empathy + Overgrowth | 3 | Tear down the Shadow castle without hurting Yui inside | Approach depends on character - Amu wanted to interact with the mind there, Utau wanted to force the Shadow into submission using Empathy |
| Wits + Empathy + Overgrowth (Stunt) | 3 / 5 / 2 | Correct the Shadow castle to fall in line with Utau's definition of right / run PersonaDungeon.exe and convert it into a normal Persona Dungeon | The last one involves baiting the Shadow into a more favourable environment after Utau could have been made known of this terminology, although it's only difficulty 2 if all the assumptions are correct |
| Wits + Strings & Songs (Utau) + Overgrowth | 3 | Invoke Kagutsuchi for them to impose their own order on the Shadow castle | Strings & Songs does not normally work in the CU - it serves to eliminate discrepancies between reality and what Kagutsuchi thinks reality should be. |
| Manipulation + Occult + Dreamwalking | 3 | Carefully make holes in the Shadow castle to get to the center of the place without fighting other Shadows | Except for Botch, has far less problems on failure than the above 3 dice roll sets because of greater finessse |
| Charisma + Occult + Empathy + Lightsmithing (Utau) | N/A | Convince the place to move the room containing Yui's physical body to the front door | Lightsmithing discards subtlety, and this is technically an auto-fail due to Reasons |
| Wits + Integrity + Mind Control | ?/opposed | Disassemble a non-hostile Shadow for parts of the mind that made them (if applicable, and if recognisable) | Requires the Lock or Key for storage space for the mind-shards, and is much harder on a Shadow that is already hostile |
| TBD | 8 | Making things that are not part of a Shadow Self part of it through surgery or something | Difficulty >5 will eventually be common, but not anytime soon |
| Wits + Occult + Mind Control | ? | Kana Taking apart a Demon and trying to get Regen/Fire Attacks out of it by interfacing it with her mind | Integrity not included, and regardless of whether any die were rolled this obviously did not work out as intended. |
| Wits + Occult | Variable | SOS Boosting, to avoid side effects | For different reasons, pixies will almost always be difficulty 0 as well- but may not be very useful. The less human the demon is, or the less inclined to be helpful, the more problematic this will be. Still beats trying to eat them. |
(For reference - also means that really weird uses of Psionics might carry more narrative tiredness than usual, unless we want Amu to practice such things?)
Was thinking about how Mental Range shakes out in practice, and while 15m (2 dots) is good enough for most people, this means that combat rounds (6 seconds) can easily reach 10s of meters (3 dots), while LoS can reach 100+m (3.5 dots) depending on surroundings and raw Perception/Awareness?
Makes sense, but is kind of unfortunate, especially combined with:
Since if applied to the full conclusion we can't really start training Mind Control anytime soon :/
(Munchkinning aside, this is a reminder to be careful with the plans we all make, especially when we don't know what's going on?)
> 6 then 3 then 1
While I don't actually want to get Biokinesis 3 (the implications are YES, and I think Amu would like to grow up eventually) unless the passive effects have a off switch, while the clinical trial aspects of this would be lmao I think with sufficient Medicine as well Amu could unironically serve as a rejuvenator?
....Huh, that wasn't there when I remember checking it.
