Dude this is a VILLAIN quest
We're not going to make nice woth them
We're going to turn around and conquer them once black doom is delt with
We may be nicer than before but we're still a villain
What Snek said, but also: Eggman has been trying to take over the world the entire time he's been on-screen.
I do not see him changing anytime soon, without another bout of Amensia-induced Mr Tinker-ing.
If we aren't trying to take over the world, so that the peons are forced to acknowledge how amazing we are, we aren't playing Eggman.
We're arguing over irrelevant things again guys.

Focus on those who are our enemies, not those who might be.
I feel like 'how are we going to treat the only nearby factions, that aren't hyper-evil', is a pretty relevant thing to talk about.
 
There are a lot of threats around the world, not just Black Doom besides it will take a while either way until we are ready to storm the Ark and we kinda need they help to locate the Seven Chaos Emeralds. Long enough at least for they opinion of Eggman to change and the doctor's as well.



Well the Restoration and GUN will start to donate resources to Eggman once we approach them, like tributes. Make no mistake they will be part of the Eggman Empire either by diplomacy or conquest, it's just this way we will not to constantly deal with rebellion inside our borders and Eggman will be finally be force to hear other people people's opinion and actually start to develop his skills ruling over population instead of just ignoring them and expect total obedience.

Either way he also try a new method thanks to Belle's talk to see how he can approach his World Domination business since military conquest cleary didn't work last time and Eggman is not someone that repeat past tactics and plans easily.

Like crushing the Restoration and GUN, Eggman will simple continue the same tactics that didn't work and make some of our hero units to leave. Belle among them and she's critical to Eggman actually start to develop a conscience.
Dude this is a VILLAIN quest
We're not going to make nice woth them
We're going to turn around and conquer them once black doom is delt with
We may be nicer than before but we're still a villain
So you want Eggman to act the opposite of how you are right now? Because you've just been ignoring how everyone has been telling you EXACTLY WHY they will not happily allow Eggman to rule the world.

Few things that need ti be clear. Eggman is undergoing bit of character develpment, but that os not enough to change his Core personality, you Can grow as a person but he will still be Eggman, thats what the quest os about, indint like Just static characters but that doesnt mean complétely changing who they are.

Also reminder, i said only way GUN and Restorarion would join Eggman is the threat of Black Doom. Thats all that will work.

Also, Dont expect them to change theirnopinion of Eggman, Sonic isnt Here to blab about second chances, they Wont forget the crimes Eggman did.

And as for saying, joining together against greater threats? Well, you Dont know of those.

Also but of IRL is keeping us busy but i Hope turn 3 starts this weekend.
 
Fair enough.

Well at least we aren't causing a metal induced undead apocalypse in this timeline.

Nah that is the guy across the sea doing.

On the other hand we have done some pretty big stuff, like blowing up half of the moon, shattering the planet, slaving an entire alien species.
 
Few things that need ti be clear. Eggman is undergoing bit of character develpment, but that os not enough to change his Core personality, you Can grow as a person but he will still be Eggman, thats what the quest os about, indint like Just static characters but that doesnt mean complétely changing who they are.

Also reminder, i said only way GUN and Restorarion would join Eggman is the threat of Black Doom. Thats all that will work.

Also, Dont expect them to change theirnopinion of Eggman, Sonic isnt Here to blab about second chances, they Wont forget the crimes Eggman did.

And as for saying, joining together against greater threats? Well, you Dont know of those.

Also but of IRL is keeping us busy but i Hope turn 3 starts this weekend.

Fair enough, and good to have it confirmed.

DOCTOR DOOM (EGGMAN) IT IS!

If nothing else their constant opposition will give us a consistent way to shrapen our skills.
 
If we going to take our badniks to battle, regardless if we are to seize a factory or expelled the Black Arms.

We should avoid send the Moto Bugs since we need them to help search for the Conch and would be a pain to have them lost before we could do that.
 
If we going to take our badniks to battle, regardless if we are to seize a factory or expelled the Black Arms.

We should avoid send the Moto Bugs since we need them to help search for the Conch and would be a pain to have them lost before we could do that.
we should definitely be using the Egg Hammers, they get bonuses for siege attacks, and the egg pawns can be added on to a team without counting towards the limit so they'll just be thrown on. other than that it depends on what the power limit for this attack is.

actually it's really wierd that's a thing, Eggmans army is all about overwhelming numbers it's strange we even have a limit.
 
we should definitely be using the Egg Hammers, they get bonuses for siege attacks, and the egg pawns can be added on to a team without counting towards the limit so they'll just be thrown on. other than that it depends on what the power limit for this attack is.

actually it's really wierd that's a thing, Eggmans army is all about overwhelming numbers it's strange we even have a limit.

The QMs explain that is a limit for gameplay purposes and the in-universe explanation is that you can't send your entire army and leaving your lands defenseless.

Raid actions no doubt have the highest power cap since it's essentially trow your army at the enemy fortifications.
 
The Results Of A Nat 1
The Results Of A Nat 1

Random Event Roll: 1

"WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY HAVE THE WRONG TASKS!!" you roared.

"Uh you see Doctor" Starline stuttered as he leaned away from the very close and very furious man.

He nervously gulped, " there was an accident with a Badnik that had it crash and take down parts of the the system. The system was fixed, but an error must have been missed causing the mix up".

You scowled, "have them sent back then".

Now visibly sweating, he stammered " w-well about that...."

Your anger at the time was almost enough to shake the base to its foundation.

Results: Belle and Metal Sonic have switched assignments and sent early. Eggman unable to render assistance for them this turn.

-[X] Assault Large Empire 'Work Camp' (Belle)
DC 80
Result: 100 + 18(Eggman Power) + 13(Belle Power) + 0(Loyalty) = 113
Critical Success!


Why are you are here!!!

Thought Belle as she trudge through woods leading to encampment. She thought it was a joke at first until she found herself actually dropped off nearby.

She wasn't a fighter! How was she suppose to takeout a camp, one that was bigger and more fortified than the one Isara was at ?!

Hiding behind a large tree overlooking most of the camp, she saw the many troops and tanks patrolling the ground, the sheer number was enough to make her tremble but the sight of the workers was enough to make her gasp.

Even from afar, it was obvious they didn't have enough to eat or were well taken care.

Gradually her fears started to be overtaken by a more foreign emotion as one poor worker tripped, dropping several boxes and was subjected to several beatings as punishments.

Before she could try anything however she froze as she felt something poked her back.

Turning around slowly she she blinked in surprise at the sight of a lone Empire soldier nervously holding his gun at her.

"No sudden movements!" he warned, his voice cracking, she then realized he was quite young, practically still a teen. His eyes look so full of sadness and turmoil.

"Are you alright" she said softly as she dared to take another step despite the gun at her chest.

"I-I" he stopped speaking as he stepped back shaking, his eyes darting back and forth.

The tense atmosphere continued until something unexpected happen.

She stared in shock as he started to tear up, a choked sob started coming from him.

He then collapsed into the ground curling into a ball, his gun long forgotten.

"The things we do to the people here.....it's too much, its just beyond cruel" he sobbed.

He looked up as he felt a gentle tough on his shoulder.

"Please, tell me more" she asked, her eyes shining with determination.

When you heard reports of a large army approaching the base, you had believed one of your enemies must have somehow learned of your location.

The sight of Belle holding a banner and leading a massive march of former prisoners and Empire defectors was far less believable.

Results: Gained 100 Metal and Crates of Ragnite, Gained New Citizens, New Options Unlocked.

-[X] Heart: Hire a New Minion - Goro Majima (Metal Sonic)
DC 70
Result= 76(Roll) + 6(Eggman Heart) + 0(Metal Sonic Heart) + 6(Loyalty) = 82
Success!


In a certain home, chaos and mayhem was at its peak.

"HAHAH-" howled Majima in laughter as he ducked under a punch that went through a wall like it was plaster only to get a gut punch that sent him flying and knocking over a couch.

Metal Sonic took a step forward before blurring as several bullets pepper the area he was previously at.

Majima having leapt on the couch, guns in hands smirked "Oh I haven't had such fun in a while, what about you?"

Metal Sonic's eyes flashed.

"Haha that's what I like to hear!" he shouted as both leapt right back into the fray.

Results: Recruited Majima?
 
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You know @ShepardCom here something for the badnik list.

What about the Black Moto Bug?

They only appear in Sonic Colors and there's no virtually difference between them and the regulars models except if you destroy them other Moto Bugs around are destroyed.

Because of that, it's suggested they are also badnik commanders like the Egg Knights since the badniks are also destroyed when you destroy them.
 
So one problem I am realizing. Kicking off the Black Arms and Zetis out of Green Hills will be good but it wont be their total defeat unless we manage to kill the Zeti. Black Arms have the Arc from where they can restart the invasion and Zeti do have their own little planet to retreat too. But no matter we are the Eggman and we do have the master plan!
We need that conch tbh, send starline working on it perhaps?
Fair enough.

Well at least we aren't causing a metal induced undead apocalypse in this timeline.

Nah that is the guy across the sea doing.

On the other hand we have done some pretty big stuff, like blowing up half of the moon, shattering the planet, slaving an entire alien species.
I'm preety sure we have idw eggman is game eggman, but hmm could we do the metal virus again, its dangerous but sometimes you may need to spray and pray.
Thought on trying to build a death egg or egg carrier. Reliance on this setup was something archie eggman did and it doesnt seems like not a too bad idea, a mobile fortress is a good way of keeping everyone on their toes and we dont have much active territory so just going full mobile flotilla doesnt seem too bad a prospect. If we need a power source I say we got give chuckles a visit and relieve him of his guardianship.
 
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Like I said, I'm taking the first list I was given and rolling with that one specifically because a lot of badniks end up being +5/+10 to combat roll and a weird extra thing. If I make every badnik that has appeared, ya'll would have a list of 80+ baniks and only make the 10 really really good ones.

Don't worry about it.

There so many badniks that show up in the games that's only logical not all them can appear.
 
Doing some work on the badniks and I've got a question for ya'll

What would you consider a tier 3 badnik to be? Something above the level of a Super Badnik but not as strong as Metal or Rusty. Something along the lines of the Metal Series in power, like Silver Sonic.
 
Doing some work on the badniks and I've got a question for ya'll

What would you consider a tier 3 badnik to be? Something above the level of a Super Badnik but not as strong as Metal or Rusty. Something along the lines of the Metal Series in power, like Silver Sonic.
Probably most of the e-series bar some outliers like omega. See my post on the extended archie lineup and this log on on the preboot incarnation of them. From the Databanks of E-102 Gamma
Archie gamma was a menace!
 
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Doing some work on the badniks and I've got a question for ya'll

What would you consider a tier 3 badnik to be? Something above the level of a Super Badnik but not as strong as Metal or Rusty. Something along the lines of the Metal Series in power, like Silver Sonic.
Probably the E series robots from sonic adventure and anime.
Except Omega, he is his own tier
Most definitely the robotic bosses of each sonic game.
With exception of the final ones, either being a death, egg Robo or mech like from sonic colors with that candy pirate
 
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Doing some work on the badniks and I've got a question for ya'll

What would you consider a tier 3 badnik to be? Something above the level of a Super Badnik but not as strong as Metal or Rusty. Something along the lines of the Metal Series in power, like Silver Sonic.

That's a tough one perhaps the Big Chaser from Sonic Colors?

That thing was relentless and maybe the Foreman from Sonic Dream Team as well?
 
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