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farmerted777X said:
Got kind of a weird question here: Are there any capitalist-related kinks that people in the Communist Bloc enjoy?
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what in the holy mother of marx is a "capitalist related kink"

were you just too embarrassed to say "findom?" cuz it sounds like you were too embarrassed to say "findom".

farmerted777X said:
Those sound pretty close to what I was thinking, along with others such as Cap/Com Findom (Capitalist/Communist Financial Domination) and perhaps couples and groups roleplaying as historical figures, genderswapping as needed: For example, General Donna MacArthur using all forms of erotic persuasion to force Wilma Foster into embracing the bourgeois decadence of the Old Republic.
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i'm really not sure. alt-sociology is incredibly weird before we get into sex.

but i do believe that there would definitely be a market for communism related kinks in the AFS.

"harder daddy, i'm a bourgeoisie running dog and i need to be punished!"

(i'm going to hell and i don't care)
 
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Hawkatana said:
YuGiOh TTRPG, alternative anime and remembrance
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I dislike how you rewrote the broken assed game that I love into a TTRPG. You really should add a mechanism that inherently breaks the game in unplanned ways, and makes it both extremely loved and hated because of that factor. Even then, If the Soviet Union had existed when yugioh ran there would definitely have been a Russian dub of it.
 
solaraquarion said:
I dislike how you rewrote the broken assed game that I love into a TTRPG. You really should add a mechanism that inherently breaks the game in unplanned ways, and makes it both extremely loved and hated because of that factor. Even then, If the Soviet Union had existed when yugioh ran there would definitely have been a Russian dub of it.
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There was no official dubbing in OTL - only fan-made ones. So there is no need to talk about some kind of popularity.
 
solaraquarion said:
I dislike how you rewrote the broken assed game that I love into a TTRPG. You really should add a mechanism that inherently breaks the game in unplanned ways, and makes it both extremely loved and hated because of that factor.
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I was just going over the broad strokes of the game and didn't have time to go into many of the details like that. Though rest assured, Yugioh's gonna Yugioh. It's like a universal constant in the same vein as gravity.
 
The British Empire is the largest Empire in the world and has, since the defeat of Napoleonic France in 1815, been the primary guaranteer of the world's economic systems and trade networks. Encompassing a quarter of the Earth through her colonies, dominions, and protectorates, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and North Ireland had long presided over the pax britannica; only for it to be shattered with the Great War that saw Imperial Germany and her allies challenge the quadruple entente of Britain, France, the United States, and Russia. Though victorious, the victory was costly in men and materiel and put Britain into deep debt and a great deal of fear towards any future such wars. However, with the Red May revolution in the former United States in 1933, Britain suddenly finds itself both free of her former obligations to its wayward child and faced with a rising communist tide to the west as well as to the east; all the while the creeping serpents of Reaction, Fascism, and Futurism rise all around the world as powers like Germany, Italy, and Japan seek their place in the sun.
Merry Christmas or (if you're a godless commie) Happy Yuletide from the Reds! team.
 
Durabys said:
Fine. Got it from here. Very well:

Reds fanfic

Son... Let me tell you exactly how you were born.... If you believe the Russian-language Internet, that is, the book that begins like this - "I hugged your mother tightly, kissed her tightly and did not let me out of my embrace for a long time." It was so quiet that we heard our hearts beating...
www.alternatehistory.com

It created discussion later on in the thread about the pros and cons of being autistic in the Red blocks.
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Sulemain said:
YOU GOT IT FROM FANFIC!
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Miss Teri said:
I really hate that this keeps popping up. I legit don't understand why it keeps coming around, when it's been refuted so many times.

There were so many researchers for autism, including in the Soviet Union, but because one Nazi affiliated researcher won't be big, neurodivergent people will be mistreated. Sure.
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Miss Teri said:
For the record, it hasn't.
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I know that I'm replying to old posts, but between this and the bit from Massively Multiplayer about people with autism becoming feared because of the OTL author of Sonichu going on a shooting rampage at their school, it seems like some people on AH.com have a weird obsession with making life for those on the autism spectrum even harder than IOTL.
 
Hey, just wanted to swing by and say that I absolutely love this timeline, and that even thouhg it is currently a bit dead I can't wait for it to continue, especially when we get to the Cold War!
 
AG_AG said:
Hey, just wanted to swing by and say that I absolutely love this timeline, and that even thouhg it is currently a bit dead I can't wait for it to continue, especially when we get to the Cold War!
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We have stuff on the Indo-Pacific theatre coming. But right now WW2 is the overwhelming focus.
 
Silent Runner said:
I know that I'm replying to old posts, but between this and the bit from Massively Multiplayer about people with autism becoming feared because of the OTL author of Sonichu going on a shooting rampage at their school, it seems like some people on AH.com have a weird obsession with making life for those on the autism spectrum even harder than IOTL.
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the weird thing is, the author of that post in the fanfic thread is autistic. i'm pretty sure he didn't INTEND for people to think this was Like That.

i can't speak to the wider ah.com culture, but there's a bunch of people who see Reds!, believe that the UASR is some kind of wish fulfillment utopia for the authors' brand of communism (it isn't, but that's beside the point) and then try and come up with ways for it to be shitty in some way because the TL needs "balance" and "moral grayness".

the only problem is that it never comes off as moral grayness, it just comes off as the UASR just randomly deciding that they were bored of being a utopia and decided to see what it would feel like to oppress the neurodivergent or commit a war crime or force the Amish to have cocaine-fueled bisexual orgies or whatever. there's already plenty of ways for the UASR to feel alien to our sensibilities (NUKES EVERYWHERE), why bother having them kick a puppy for no reason?

(if anyone asks: no, no one has suggested the UASR to force the Amish to have cocaine-fueled bisexual orgies.)
 
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While we're on the subject, just what do the drug laws in the UASR look like in the modern era anyway? Because I assume they don't really care about pot or low-key psychedelics but would probably prefer that their citizens fuel their bisexual orgies with something a bit safer than cocaine.
 
Jake said:
While we're on the subject, just what do the drug laws in the UASR look like in the modern era anyway? Because I assume they don't really care about pot or low-key psychedelics but would probably prefer that their citizens fuel their bisexual orgies with something a bit safer than cocaine.
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Given that if my memory serves me - "bisexual orgies" are common mainly in states like New York and California (and then they pop up in the British yellow press more often than they actually happen) - and in some Kansas, morals are much simpler.
 
Jake said:
While we're on the subject, just what do the drug laws in the UASR look like in the modern era anyway? Because I assume they don't really care about pot or low-key psychedelics but would probably prefer that their citizens fuel their bisexual orgies with something a bit safer than cocaine.
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I'd imagine that drug policy is to some degree just "doing it's fine with us and if you need rehab we'll provide it, but using it on the job is a BIG no-no" with some of the more damaging drugs discouraged through propaganda more than a legal response
 
wallabon said:
I'd imagine that drug policy is to some degree just "doing it's fine with us and if you need rehab we'll provide it, but using it on the job is a BIG no-no" with some of the more damaging drugs discouraged through propaganda more than a legal response.
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That's pretty much what I was thinking. With the notable exception of substances that have a high probability of causing increased aggression, paranoia or any other side effects that are likely to become other people's problem. If someone takes one LSD trip too far and winds up suffering brain damage then that's tragic, but the only life they were gambling with was their own. Someone who does so much meth that they start to suffer from paranoid delusions not so much.
 
wallabon said:
I'd imagine that drug policy is to some degree just "doing it's fine with us and if you need rehab we'll provide it, but using it on the job is a BIG no-no" with some of the more damaging drugs discouraged through propaganda more than a legal response
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Jake said:
That's pretty much what I was thinking. With the notable exception of substances that have a high probability of causing increased aggression, paranoia or any other side effects that are likely to become other people's problem. If someone takes one LSD trip too far and winds up suffering brain damage then that's tragic, but the only life they were gambling with was their own. Someone who does so much meth that they start to suffer from paranoid delusions not so much.
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All in all, it sounds fair. However, we bypass the issue here - it is clear that this concerns the use. What about distributions? Still, the drug trade is organically linked with organized crime - even in cases of legalization, criminal structures simply varnish them under the guise of "normal business". This is not to mention the use of drug addicts as slaves, and blackmail in order to obtain payment for the poison. That is, all the same, there should be sanctions against people who distribute methamphetamine in roundabout ways.
 
Just binged every version of the canon for 3 days straight staying up to unhealthy hours, best althist I've ever read. Can't wait to see more!
 
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Comrade Future said:
All in all, it sounds fair. However, we bypass the issue here - it is clear that this concerns the use. What about distributions? Still, the drug trade is organically linked with organized crime - even in cases of legalization, criminal structures simply varnish them under the guise of "normal business". This is not to mention the use of drug addicts as slaves, and blackmail in order to obtain payment for the poison. That is, all the same, there should be sanctions against people who distribute methamphetamine in roundabout ways.
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Well, the UASR already has a few preexisitng legitmate drug distibution industries: tobacco, coffee, and alcohol, and various preveiously-illicit substances get folded into that. Notably, the United States scheduling system never happens ttl iirc, so a lot of this stuff was never pushed underground like OTL, so the criminal networks (outside of the mob, for instance) just aren't there. Post-'33 you can probably buy joints right next to cigs in a general store.

A lot of this is salved by the fact that a good amount of the Red Terror in the UASR is aimed at organized crime; combined with decriminalization and legalization, this means that a lot of the unfortunate externalities aren't too much of a factor. Theres also a general amnesty post-revolution, so if someone goes from growing marijuana or poppies illicitly to growing and selling it legitimately as a regulated coop like the various tobacco concerns and while not otherwise engaging in criminality... who cares?

It should be noted that this is mostly applying to the UASR, and different parts of the Red World (like, say, China with the extensive history of the Brits and then Japanese using opium as a method of building up soft power) will take different attitudes towards this.
 
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vilani99 said:
Well, the UASR already has a few preexisitng legitmate drug distibution industries: tobacco, coffee, and alcohol, and various preveiously-illicit substances get folded into that. Notably, the United States scheduling system never happens ttl iirc, so a lot of this stuff was never pushed underground like OTL, so the criminal networks (outside of the mob, for instance) just aren't there. Post-'33 you can probably buy joints right next to cigs in a general store.
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Legalization is not a panacea - it may have its own costs. For example, singed and "left" vodka is common in Russia - in the first case, we are talking about a cheap surrogate made either with excess fusel oils or based on methyl alcohol .... In general, an even more dangerous poison. In the second case, the product was created at an official enterprise, but not accounted for in accounting. Burnt vodka is pumped to the organized crime group market, but it is often counterfeited by brands .... and even "official" offices can supply a certain percentage of "burnt" products.
In general, Comrade Trotsky was right - "official vodka" cannot fully defeat moonshine and cheap substitutes. If the state produced vodka at moonshine prices, the industry would be unprofitable.
 
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