Wait when was it established she has a physical body? I don't remember this at all.
"Moon River is still missing."

Chaucer blinks. "Valiant Silver's A.I.? Surely it's stored in the Apiary or somewhere you can reactivate it?"

"Not so, Chaucer," you say, "Because Eve wasn't an A.I. or anything synthetic. Eve—Moon River—was a technopath. We pretended she was an A.I. to protect her identity."

"What?!" Ibis jumps to his feet. "Moon River . . . was a metahuman? But Valiant Silver received all that praise for making her! They called her the greatest mind since Ọsanyìn! And it was a lie?"

"Yes, Doctor," you say gravely, "One with a good reason. Eve had no sensorium aside from technopathy. She couldn't see. She couldn't hear. Without technology to control, she was numb to the world. And . . . she didn't know where she was."

"W-what?" Black Swan furrows her brow.

"Eve didn't know where her real body was. She didn't even know what she looked like. Her avatar was a digital construction she made." You let them process that. You remember how shocked you were to learn it yourself. "Nora . . . found her for lack of a better term. We built her proxies to control, but were never able to locate her. I sometimes think she didn't want to be found. But now she's missing."
 
:thonk: Someone speculated the other day that maybe the two are Valkyrie's children, and...


Hmm. Let's say we run with the assumption Eve and Lilith are Valkyrie's children, and that the 'it' that she's warning Ellie about in this latest update is the Leviathan. Can Eve and Lilith also be the Leviathan's children somehow? Did she somehow communicate with the Leviathan and her children get changed in the womb somehow??

That might explain the naming scheme, honestly. If we assume Hand named them (since he's clearly acting as Lilith's father), and he was like 'oh clearly these will be the new children of the new stage of humanity' or something... That might track?

If Eve were somehow aware, that might explain why she refuses to come back, besides the whole 'dangerous people are after me and I dont want to bring that trouble to JU'.



Eve: "I'm not human. I'm a monster. You don't even want to see my real body. It's awful and terrible and I don't deserve-"

Mona (channeling her inner Luffy): "SHUT UP! COME WITH US!!!!!!"
Honestly if that is true then it would be very much continuing a trend of JU all having evil family.

I mean we have Socialite Butterfly and Harper, Uiara and her father, Towarri being raised by the Mysteries and LL of course having her own criminal family. Really if Eve actually is her sister, then that kind of makes Nora and Adamant the odd ones out having non villainous family. I am starting to think LL despite being the espionage master she ironically might be the one who was most honest about her family being villains. She thought was doing something special by joining JU in spite of her villainous family, but it turns out she just found her people and nobody told her.

Really give her dad was just a regular crime lord instead of part of the major conspiracy in some way she be the lowest on the evil family totem pole.
 
Honestly if that is true then it would be very much continuing a trend of JU all having evil family.

I mean we have Socialite Butterfly and Harper, Uiara and her father, Towarri being raised by the Mysteries and LL of course having her own criminal family. Really if Eve actually is her sister, then that kind of makes Nora and Adamant the odd ones out having non villainous family. I am starting to think LL despite being the espionage master she ironically might be the one who was most honest about her family being villains. She thought was doing something special by joining JU in spite of her villainous family, but it turns out she just found her people and nobody told her.

Really give her dad was just a regular crime lord instead of part of the major conspiracy in some way she be the lowest on the evil family totem pole.
And then there's adamant
 
I know that through the quest, we had been knowing as The Audience, had giv the JU push they need. But I see us an Audience, not THE ANUDIENCE. What if, there was other Anudiece out there than us, that also follow a faction. What if the other Anudiece are not following the rules like we are doing. By breaking them (Frozen Throne, Cacth 22), or fund a loophole (The Interlocutor, The Hand). What if, the reason Valkyrie is so scared of the backstage is, because she saw something unhuman there. Not a ghost of a dead human, but maybe an Anudiece. An Anudiece so twisted and sadistic as inhuman could be possible (concider The Stage is the collective human consciousness, there would of couse be something rotten there). But not we. We had morals (as questionable that can be). We are the Anudiece theat clarly follow the rules. Why you all ask. Simple. The reality is at the breaking point. When did it start, you all ask. It did, when Leviathan show up. I believe that Leviathan is also from the Stage, but it's was not our sider that make it show up, but the humen side. Yes the humen. Everthing there ever happen since Laviathan crash is, because some humen was doing tomfoolery with forces, they didn't understand.
 
Alright, I'm bored rn and I just finished my outline. Let's go through every single EXCEED-BEYOND keyword and guess where it came from! After all:

Everything in EXCEED-BEYOND is inspired by a person in-universe, yeah.

Always Active:
Anti-gravity: Radiant Silvergirl
Energy Shielding: Bulwark
Mental Manipulation Immunity: Base function of all VS-made suits.

Module "Paper":
Pyrokinesis: maybe one of the Demon Flamez, like Phlogiston? They did rob Nora once after all.
Energy Blaster: Novalight
Drones: Steelheart
Targeting Suite: Maybe Red Huntress? Edit: Miss Naught
Railgun: Vulcan (metal used as ammo was made by him)

Module "Scissors":
Psychic Energy Blades: Red Huntress
Agility Suite: Either Red Huntress or Lightstep
Telekinesis: Valkyrie?
Pilebunker: EXCEED-BEYOND original I think

Module "Rock":
Enhanced Strength: Maybe Adamant, tho it's a very common power.
Advanced Energy Shielding: Either Bulwark again or someone with Force Fields like Palisade
Power Nullification: Same as Pilebunker.

Module "Dynamite":
O̵̺͓̊͌͊p̵̞͕̔̚ē̵͔͜ņ̵͍͎̊ ̸͎̌̄̌ẗ̶̖͘h̶̝̮͐̋ë̵̺̺́ ̷̺͊S̵͍̊̈̕t̷̮̎͝ą̶̩̞̄g̶̮͘e̶̦̲̟͌: Everyone in Horizon, technically. Valiant Red since this unifies various heroes?
 
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I mean we have Socialite Butterfly and Harper, Uiara and her father, Towarri being raised by the Mysteries and LL of course having her own criminal family. Really if Eve actually is her sister, then that kind of makes Nora and Adamant the odd ones out having non villainous family. I am starting to think LL despite being the espionage master she ironically might be the one who was most honest about her family being villains. She thought was doing something special by joining JU in spite of her villainous family, but it turns out she just found her people and nobody told her.
The Woman-in-Blue might be some sort of evil counterpart to Nora. Does that count as evil family?
 
I know Arc has a useful power, but how much use can she really be after all she only has one limb left.
I remember you asked this very question to Bitterman before, which he replied but didn't answer due to the implications of your question.
This question implies things I don't think you mean, but the answer to that question is up to you.

And like, even if she is weaker than before, that really doesn't matter? I know what I want from Arc: to be involved in the Kelso-Allard questline. If choosing to be an active hero despite her injuries is what she wants, then that's a choice I'll respect. Of course we'd wanna keep her alive just as well as the rest, so that sounds like the typical mission.
 
You know when Temes originally said that I held my tongue but now I feel like I should come out and say it:

@Temes1066

That statement that EternalObserver just quoted? REALLY ableist sounding, FYI.

I didn't mean it like that.

I also just realised what she can do for us anyway, she can get us inside because she is an Allard and Shroud is planning to kill a Kelso-Allard.
 
The Woman-in-Blue might be some sort of evil counterpart to Nora. Does that count as evil family?
You know, there's something very fishy going on with Nora's date of birth...
You know what I will count it under an evil twin exception.

Damn, looks like you are the odd one out after all Adamant.
And then there's adamant
Steadfast did work for the US military
Judging by the things Leizi and Rakeem himself said about both of them, Steadfast and Dragonsteeth were both fairly good people who just got put through the wringer.
Honestly this sound like something Adamant tries to bring up during the team trauma dumping session to feel less left out.

Leizi: I'm sorry honey but you are just going to have to accept that your family were good people.
Adamant Oh come one! How come we count Uiara's dad then! He doesn't even have powers!
Uiara: He's a megacorp executive, his power is being rewarded for being a terrible person.
 
Question...... Speaking of NewDawn when are we going to bring them in?
We can't keep on churning out powerful metahumans or indeed any metahumans without cluing them into our project.
Also hoping to get Gentleman James to give another go at Golden Skull's brother.
Any chance we could get Golden Skull's dna profile?
 
Question...... Speaking of NewDawn when are we going to bring them in?
We can't keep on churning out powerful metahumans or indeed any metahumans without cluing them into our project.
Also hoping to get Gentleman James to give another go at Golden Skull's brother.
Any chance we could get Golden Skull's dna profile?
For ND its when the orgs merge and if they decide to stay instead of retiring or going independant.
 
Question...... Speaking of NewDawn when are we going to bring them in?
We can't keep on churning out powerful metahumans or indeed any metahumans without cluing them into our project.
Also hoping to get Gentleman James to give another go at Golden Skull's brother.
Any chance we could get Golden Skull's dna profile?
I don't think we actually know when we're merging our two organizations, and I'm also going to assume that it'll cost us an AP to do so, so... maybe next turn?

And Unknown, probably need consent from James first
 
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