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Mercenary Mage Quest: Asur Dogs of War in Warhammer Fantasy

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SoulCaptain said:
Thanks for the correction! I must have muddled the two up in my head.
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The more detailed 8th edition map can be really confusing because it doesn't have the borders for the kingdoms, so you have to cross-reference with the old maps from 5th and 7th editions to figure out which kingdom a given detail falls under.
 
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Constenanto said:
Yeah, that's the thing. I like the idea of the Mistwalkers plan, but considering I've already seen a sneaky mage, I don't really want to see it again. Would rather go for something different.
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But that's what I'm talking about. I myself don't really care about being a sneaky mage and from how we're building Fanriel I don't see her as one. The reason I'm leaning towards Mistwalkers is that to me they just seem to be one of the best all rounder units who could shoot some Norscans between the eyes at 50 yards or more and could hold their own in a melee against basic infantry, as well as being particularly skilled and having honed their skills hunting monsters and Daemons in the mists. Maybe I'm reading too much into them, but I have a good feeling about them and we already have more than enough evidence that Swordmasters are the shit so I really want to have both of them which should give us some flexibility with a small elite band of 30 of the best Ulthuan can provide, and I'd rather get them now b/c I doubt we'll be able to get them again anytime soon.
 
SoulCaptain said:
Dammit, that's a shame, I was hoping there might be another quest out there that I'd missed.

Divided Loyalties really isn't my thing (purely on a taste basis, no disrespect to the author and those who enjoy it). I just really didn't gel with it at all after the end of the Elector Count bit at the opening of the story - I suddenly realised it'd been a hundred thousand words or so since I properly enjoyed it so I dropped it and enjoyed myself a lot better.

So that's probably why I'm totally down for guerilla mercenaries and mages and other folks are more conflicted.
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You do you. I actually think I begun to like it more after the Elector Count arc, though that's not to say I disliked it - I enjoyed it quite a bit, actually. Still, we all have our preferences, and I can get if you didn't like Divided Loyalties for one reason or the other.
 
Constenanto said:
You do you. I actually think I begun to like it more after the Elector Count arc, though that's not to say I disliked it - I enjoyed it quite a bit, actually. Still, we all have our preferences, and I can get if you didn't like Divided Loyalties for one reason or the other.
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Thank you and, obviously, I return likewise the 'you do you' sentiment. Loads of people find DL fun and that's great. As far as I'm concerned, collaborative storytelling is ultimately about having fun together. If it works, it works. I'm not here to critique it - because a) that'd be rude and b) really not on topic for this thread and c) literary critique's fine and all but there's a time and a place and I'd probably have a pointlessly long write up for what I liked vs felt could be improved upon vs what I recognised was just aiming for a different kind of emotional or thematic target than I preferred and there's really not much point to doing that lmao
 
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How would the Mistwalkers fare in direct combat compared to the other options? Like, are they all-rounders with a penchant for stealth, or do they specialise in stealth and aren't so good in direct combat. Just want to get some more info on them so I can make up my mind.
 
Constenanto said:
@Blackout

How would the Mistwalkers fare in direct combat compared to the other options? Like, are they all-rounders with a penchant for stealth, or do they specialise in stealth and aren't so good in direct combat. Just want to get some more info on them so I can make up my mind.
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All-rounders with a penchant for stealth. 1v1 they would beat spearmen or rangers in melee and outshoot Archers.

Obviously they don't stack up to Swordmasters, but those are literally some of the best elite melee infantry in the whole of Warhammer Fantasy.
 
Blackout said:
All-rounders with a penchant for stealth. 1v1 they would beat spearmen or rangers in melee and outshoot Archers.

Obviously they don't stack up to Swordmasters, but those are literally some of the best elite melee infantry in the whole of Warhammer Fantasy.
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Does their experience fighting daemons in the Mists bear any special relevance here? Like with, say, Nagarythe's Shadow Warriors and their expertise at shanking Druchii?
 
Mistwalkers definitely don't have to utilize their sneakiness, though From The Mists definitely leans into that particular aspect, I must admit.

Largely because, to be honest, I feel like fighting straight on when you can sneak up and ambush people is just bad tactics. Anyone who can sneak should sneak (or at least, should do so when it's advantageous, which is often), especially if aiming to limit casualties.
 
Blackout said:
All-rounders with a penchant for stealth. 1v1 they would beat spearmen or rangers in melee and outshoot Archers.

Obviously they don't stack up to Swordmasters, but those are literally some of the best elite melee infantry in the whole of Warhammer Fantasy.
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Wow. That's better than what I was expecting. Then again, these are one of the elite units of Yvresse, from what I've gathered, so it makes sense I suppose. If so I think I'll throw in my vote for the Mistwalkers plan, as I like the idea of a Yvressian (?) Princess going around with her homeland's elite soldiers. Though I do think I still prefer the whole warrior woman theme Hoeth's Roamers has got going on.

DeadmanwalkingXI said:
Largely because, to be honest, I feel like fighting straight on when you can sneak up and ambush people is just bad tactics. Anyone who can sneak should sneak (or at least, should do so when it's advantageous, which is often), especially if aiming to limit casualties.
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That's a valid point.
 
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Constenanto said:
Wow. That's better than what I was expecting. Then again, these are one of the elite units of Yvresse, from what I've gathered, so it makes sense I suppose. If so I think I'll throw in my vote for the Mistwalkers plan, as I like the idea of a Yvressian (?) Princess going around with her homeland's elite soldiers. Though I do think I still prefer the whole warrior woman theme Hoeth's Roamers has got going on.
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If you want both, then throw your vote behind my plan [] The Best Around where we get both of these badass units, get some sick magic power armor, and get better at making these badasses use their full potential. All together, we'll be Demon slaying machines!
 
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
Mistwalkers definitely don't have to utilize their sneakiness, though From The Mists definitely leans into that particular aspect, I must admit.

Largely because, to be honest, I feel like fighting straight on when you can sneak up and ambush people is just bad tactics. Anyone who can sneak should sneak (or at least, should do so when it's advantageous, which is often), especially if aiming to limit casualties.
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Agreed, but that doesn't mean we have to speck ourselves for stealth. Again, I want us to be versatile and adaptable, not focus on being super sneaky nor going LEEEROY JENKINS! at every opportunity. I simply see Mistwalkers and Swordmasters as both giving that versatility and adaptability.
 
I ended up approval voting for From the Mists, Chaos Hunters - Plural and The Best Around. Gave my reasons for each in my post on the previous page if anyone wants to see them.
 
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