Mafio Party

[Rem]

Because honestly I wanted to take a gamble. I bounced between a NPC claim if I was about to be lynched or the miller claim and ended up going with the miller claim because I thought it'd get me more cred, or at least excuse an NPC hit. I had no idea what kind of roles the NPCs typically were at the time, but given mine I had reason to assume they were anti-town. It was a bit of a risk to associate with them, and I had no idea if the claim would be bought or not.

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Fair enough.

I mean I could do that as an NPC SK too, you know. So your objection only makes sense if I'm Mafia-Miller-Mason(?), which is a logically bizarre and nearly incoherent claim.

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I think having a Mafia member mill as a Survivor/Third Party would make sense, in a general sense. It wouldn't be enough to get Town to trust them, but at the same time would give them some level of protection.

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More notes from Boogle:

1. Archeo's three-kill power worked based on matching three players (SVers, not PCs) with their respective role names. If he succeeded, they all died. If he failed, they would be told that a failed attempt went off.
2. QTesseract has suggested that Town lynch NPCs without useful roles,* stating that Town can support two neutrals + LMBF, with any more than that being a liability. He does not want to give Mafia the reason why though. He recommends BB.
3. Archeo claims that dead mafia can't talk to living mafia in their QT. Unsurprising, but worth mentioning.

* In my utterly unbiased opinion we should not do this. In fact we should give all the NPCs cake and ice cream.

 

[Nanimani]

Also to throw my 2 cents in on LMBF, I feel like I should believe B.B. on this. What incentive does she have to lie at this point? She's already won.

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What incentive does she have to argue at all?
Lie or tell the truth, it's down to the same reason.

 

[Cheese4Every1]

What incentive does she have to argue at all?
Lie or tell the truth, it's down to the same reason.

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Fair point. Maybe I'm biased because I just want it to be true. Since I'm new to SV mafia games I'm not familiar with just how bonkers the roles and mason groupings can get, so anything is plausible to me at this point.

 

[Nanimani]

Well, I thought I'd take a look to see which of the two didn't vote for Winged Cat, but... neither of them voted for the PC. On the other lynch, Nani bought into the Mario lynch, and Pawn was advocating for the lynch of the Mason in order to prove me (I still don't get why we didn't just have Cyricube check both masons to see if one of the groups are lying) but I can't really fault either of them for this?

So between the unnoticed Doctor being scum, and the Jailor who jailed the obvious scum being scum... I'm fairly split, but I'm going to go with...

[x] Lynch Nanimani

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Oh, right. I don't like directly and bluntly lying, so maybe this has a little weight, at least.

I am not a crook PC.

 

[Bea]

Fair enough. I've calmed down and I'll give this a go at least.

Looking at the confirmed list:

Notteboy97: Vouched for Rikimaru. Not entirely inconceivable it's informed scum getting a shield, but fairly unlikely.

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You know, there are stretches of time that I forget Notte is even in this game. He doesn't really scumhunt at all, he doesn't put any pressure on anyone, and basically just coasts the whole way, with some hedging and setup speculation on the side. He wagons too, of course. That helps, in a form. Of course the only people he's wagoned are people that are demonstratably not PCs- LMBF and Q. So there's that too.

Spoiler: Winged Cat and Riki

First let's talk about Winged Cat.

Just to chime in I think Winged Cat is a bit suspicious though I believe it is definitely possible if he is town because I could see myself making the early CPU claim if I was in his position.

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This hedging is the only relevant comment Notte says about Winged Cat. He says nothing about Archeo.

Winged Cat has nothing remarkable to say about him, and neither does Archeo. Ok then.

Dammit I wanted to stay low today because honestly I have lost track of discussion and all the walls of texts were making my eyes glaze over. I can confirm that a role with similar powers as Riki describes exists. It was described in a close enough manner that I believe a scum couldn't replicate without knowing the exact role.

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1. Despite the fact that he is literally still on his first vote from Page 5 or so, he doesn't change his vote while trying to save Riki. He is doing something while doing as little as possible.
2. He's vanilla and yet he's trying to stay low? What?
3. It's worth noting that this is right after Archeo swapped to Cake. The scum clearly didn't see any threat in Riki.

Personally I believe Riki is town, as seen by me backing his claim, if not a particularly helpful town.

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So basically he explicitly admits that Riki isn't helpful town, and that he still tried to save him for flavor similarities. It's worth noting the perception that Riki won't be helpful to the town is probably exactly why Archeo moved to keep him alive in the first place. He doesn't explain what drove him to save Riki or what made him think he was town. Was it just the flavor? Something else? Who knows?

I guess that makes sense because my character, Koopa Troopa for those interested, went to sleep being happy Luigi received punishment for what he did to my kind which wouldn't make sense if I didn't remember who Luigi was.

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Was there any particular reason to nameclaim there?

It's worth noting that despite just being there before the Winged Cat wagon starts he disappears the moment it gets going.

Checking in to confirm I have seen the update. Man I didn't realize it last game but the night is rather boring if you don't have a power isn't it.

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HELLO FELLOW VANILLAS I SURE AM FEELING VANILLA TODAY

Like there isn't a point by point airtight case for Notte but that's because there's so little content. There's just... nothing worthy of analysis here mostly it's jokey-jokes, flavor spec, setup spec, and bandwagoning and that's basically it. It's worth noting that out of the non-confirmed non-PC characters, he by far has the least amount of posts. Next up is (from other peep's perspective) LMBF with 29 and then there's Nani with 49. Like... there just isn't much here and I'm not sure I'm inclined to let him slide on Riki unless we'd do something similar for Archeo. Cake was simply considered a far more valuable lynch, especially after he came out as vanilla. ​

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Lizard Knight: Vouched for, multiple players. Self confirming role.

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I'm not sure we should totally ignore the NPC slip that Lizard Knight made. Like he's probably not some kind of "SK" or similarly malicious NPC role but... eh. If it's an NPC I'm not sure I like that its ability is outright spreading lies; especially since he claims to be Princess Peach.

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That basically leaves Rem, Derpmind, Pawn Lelouch, and Nanimani

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Pawn I've basically stated my opinion on their D1 and D2 play on, I didn't really like it and I feel like it could be a PR play or a scum play, and I need to relook at their D3 play. Nani is a toss-up but their claim is incredibly strong and I'm willing to give it credence. Derp fought for Winged Cat to the hilt, allegedly due to policy reasons that they then guilt-trip other players about. During D1 he defends Winged Cat, waffles on LMBF, and kinda waffles at the end of the day. He voted Cake early on and sticks with that, despite talking about planning on voting Riki. He doesn't vote Winged Cat at the day's end, despite having been playing the game very shortly before that whole drama emerged. He has made even less posts than Notte, though he justifies it by saying there's too much analysis. He also suggested that we only lynch one person on D3 (????), and he never really gives a rationale for that. The only boost that he gets in my eyes is that his NPC claim makes some sense, though his power feels a bit weak even with theoretical one-shot kill protection. I'd expect something stronger or some survivor buddies.

Rem's medium claim does make a lot of sense to be in the game, but is also basically unfalsifiable and could easily be made up on the fly, especially with a creative buddy/somebody that knows people on the site well, and is an effective means of spreading confusion and distrust. I'm also unsure why Archeo volunteered their scumpower? That said, the flavor he gave makes sense and he gets a massive boost for knowing info about joe's role. It could be a scum medium, allowing scum to even communicate with their dead buddies. It'd be a rather strange role though.

In my eyes, Derp and Notte are looking like pretty good lynches, though while I really, despite the bizarre "hit" claim probably lean toward Notte, in case the mafia have a double-kill, which is quite plausible.

Of Pawn and Nani's... toss-up. Nani's play and claim both look stronger (Pawn's flavourless claim is pretty blegh to me still) and the overall drama that started the day was pretty interesting, but I'm not positive what to make of it right now. I'll probably look at the two of them in-depth later, and maaaybe a look at Terra, since his claim remains strictly unproven. It's something that could end up being "strictly unproven" throughout the entire game without too much difficulty, really.

I mean I think I said this about joebobjoe, but it's true, it's hard to make a heavily strong case when the two main suspects really lack things rather than possess them. Notte and Derp have both been coasting and making excuses about it, and that's largely most of what they've done, aside from Day 1. Which interestingly is also when the scum were at their strongest (7 out of the 15 game posts Derp made were D1, not including D2 posts devoted to defending themselves and claiming in particular; Notte's was a bit less than I expected of a mere 5/17, but at the same time it still kind of felt like the most they were... in the game.)

Again, I'll look at the two main contentful subjects later on; Pawn at least... I'm really inclined to give Nani the benefit of the doubt for the day, but I might recheck the kinda messy beginning and see if I shouldn't look at it the other way around. At the very least ONE of them is absolutely telling the truth, I'm very very skeptical that both are.

 

[Letmebefree]

Yo I'm back wenr out with family, I'm reading over the thread rn .

 

[Cheese4Every1]

I'm perfectly willing to vote up either Notte or Derp at this point, whichever gets the most support. Both are coasting pretty hard and unfortunately that's the best lead we have at the moment, at least in my opinion.

 

[Nanimani]

Again, I'll look at the two main contentful subjects later on; Pawn at least... I'm really inclined to give Nani the benefit of the doubt for the day, but I might recheck the kinda messy beginning and see if I shouldn't look at it the other way around. At the very least ONE of them is absolutely telling the truth, I'm very very skeptical that both are.

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Let's be honest here: You could look at the reasons I blocked Pawn as a lie, but you can't really look at the fact that he got blocked as one. So I'm not quite seeing how he could've lied there, other than what he'd have done if not blocked. But since said action wouldn't have been the kill, it doesn't really matter.

...If I see something wrong, Imma argue with it, okay?

I'm perfectly willing to vote up either Notte or Derp at this point, whichever gets the most support. Both are coasting pretty hard and unfortunately that's the best lead we have at the moment, at least in my opinion.

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Out of the two of them, I'd rather go Derp, honestly. Either we get scum, or we get confirmation there's a third party kill going around.

 

[Terrabrand]

One of last night's kills was town-colored. Also, if Joe's ability gives people double actions, then he might have given a double action to one of the PCs.

Unfortunately, my PM didn't have a color, so I don't know which faction tried to kill me. Hopefully if Rem's a medium, he can confirm using the flavor text? (Binary numbers infection.)

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Joe clearly believed his power did not give a double action. This is also a preposterous argument because you are suggsting Joe gave a kill item with some weird code flavor to a PC. I also don't believe you because you claim to specifically be immune to Sabotage but we now know that non-sabotage kills exist. (Though admittedly the new one is apparently a strongman).

Ok. So, news from Boogle:

1. Archeo Lumierre/Waluigi apparently would have been able to blow up three players on their doorsteps if he hadn't been swapped on day one.
2. Access to Boogle is granted upon the dawn of the new day or, for Lynched players, their final post in the thread (whichever comes first).
3. Cyricubed checked myself and Broken Base; we displayed the same alignment.
4. Joebobjoe gave Rikimaru bone dice, @Terrabrand glasses, and Lizard Knight a watch.

Furthermore, I received a message last night with (unspecified) evidence suggesting Lizard Knight is a legitimate CPU.

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Confused by Archeo's chattiness, personally.

However, that is the item I recieved, so that confirms you as at least a medium.

So JBJ's part is confirmed due to Lizard Knight being a confirmed player in everyone's minds.

The third part isn't really fully believable though for two reasons. One if I remember right the plan was to compare you and LMBF due to BB's supposed miller status possibly messing things up.

And two, if you're a mafia medium it could be worth losing the chat's trust if it makes you look better with possibly lying about having Cyri not follow the plan and/or lying about the alignments between you and BB being the same.

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QTesseract argued for different plans, I was pushing for this one.

Also, I blame the hell out of Rikimaru. I spefically killed JoeBobJoe because there was no supporting evidence for their claim, despite there having been no deaths the night before. @Rem, ask Joe if the Bone Dice were a power amplifier or kill

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Huh. I had honestly assumed this was Bowser The Vig. Okay then.

Didn't expect you to have a power beyond mason.

I believe Rem is NPC, Because He described the faction before anyone claimed it. So to me its believable that He had it.
Add to that Rem knew about the items, Which makes me believe his Boogle claim

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Derpmind was the initial NPC claim as I recall.

And ALSO why the fuck are we even going for anti-town PRs right now. There's 2-3 (but given everything almost definitely 2) PCs left. Look, let me say this. If you lynch both PCs and the game is still going, go ahead and lynch me, because clearly something fucked up is going on, and maybe my lynch can do something. I don't know. Like the PCs dying is all I care about anymore anyway, which is part of why I'm saying this, because I don't want us wasting time wagoning LMBF when it's in nobody's interest except the scum's, I know Nictis isn't going to change his mind without me claiming, and I just... why would I engage in a wall of words when I've won when I can do this instead?

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I'm sorry you're frustrated, but you do realize this would be an excellent ploy if you and LMBF were the remaining scum?

Since we wouldn't lynch any PCs until far too late, in that case?

. I'm not even an explicitly anti-town role; I'm neutral at most

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Lyncher on a powerful town role actually is anti-town, though.

I mean I appreciate the sentiment, I feel like I played a garbage game especially now that I'm thrown into this situation, which I blame no one for except myself. I'm just so tired and having a literal mental breakdown over a game I've already won. Like honestly I probably shouldn't even be posting this but my self-control is shot because I'm freaking out out of guilt, and frustration, and sadness and shame and a whole bunch of other stuff. If there would be anyway out, that people wouldn't hate me for, I'd take it in a heartbeat. But here we are.

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Hey, if you are a lyncher this is better than my lyncher play.

For what it's worth BB, I'm sorry to hear that. If for some reason there's anything a bunch of weirdos on the internet can do to help or offer support I'm sure a number of us would be here for you.

Also to throw my 2 cents in on LMBF, I feel like I should believe B.B. on this. What incentive does she have to lie at this point? She's already won. Plus, as a transporter I admit that I have some ideas on how I could make use of a townie who's night immune, so I really hope they're actually town.

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I'm looking side-eye at the claim, because Comiturtle by chance as previously claimed 'yo I'm executioner/lyncher on the dead guy, I've already won'... As scum.

The incentive to lie, then, is the entire claim of being a lyncher could be a lie.

All that said...

You swapping Cyricubed and yourself suggests to me that Rem is legit- I was initialy concerned that Cyricubed's death could either be scum trying to prevent one of them being confirmed as scum or scum trying to convince us Rem was scum trying to prevent us from confirming him as scum.

But... If the original target was you, then that's not the gameplan at all for the scum, barring truly amazing predictions.

Between that, the revelation that Nani and Pawn both say Nani jailed pawn (and thus it's even less likely Derp's claim is legit)...

Well, I'm pretty set on either killing Derpmind or... Broken Base.

See. The thing is, lynching Broken Base will either reveal them as the NPC they claim while only costing town an active player with no claimed powers beyond a private chat.... Or it will reveal them as a PC, in which case we lynch LMBF.

If Broken Base is not a PC, we can assume we still have two PCs running around and they aren't LMBF. If they are a PC, it is very likely they are covering for a PC partner.

Certainly, it won't prove LMBF as town per se, for Broken Base to flip not maf, but it will suggest Broken Baseis telling the truth about being a lyncher. And in the case Broken Base is a lyncher, we aren't robbing her of her win to lynch her now.

 

[Nanimani]

Joe clearly believed his power did not give a double action. This is also a preposterous argument because you are suggsting Joe gave a kill item with some weird code flavor to a PC. I also don't believe you because you claim to specifically be immune to Sabotage but we now know that non-sabotage kills exist. (Though admittedly the new one is apparently a strongman).



Confused by Archeo's chattiness, personally.

However, that is the item I recieved, so that confirms you as at least a medium.


QTesseract argued for different plans, I was pushing for this one.



Huh. I had honestly assumed this was Bowser The Vig. Okay then.

Didn't expect you to have a power beyond mason.



Derpmind was the initial NPC claim as I recall.



I'm sorry you're frustrated, but you do realize this would be an excellent ploy if you and LMBF were the remaining scum?

Since we wouldn't lynch any PCs until far too late, in that case?



Lyncher on a powerful town role actually is anti-town, though.



Hey, if you are a lyncher this is better than my lyncher play.



I'm looking side-eye at the claim, because Comiturtle by chance as previously claimed 'yo I'm executioner/lyncher on the dead guy, I've already won'... As scum.

The incentive to lie, then, is the entire claim of being a lyncher could be a lie.

All that said...

You swapping Cyricubed and yourself suggests to me that Rem is legit- I was initialy concerned that Cyricubed's death could either be scum trying to prevent one of them being confirmed as scum or scum trying to convince us Rem was scum trying to prevent us from confirming him as scum.

But... If the original target was you, then that's not the gameplan at all for the scum, barring truly amazing predictions.

Between that, the revelation that Nani and Pawn both say Nani jailed pawn (and thus it's even less likely Derp's claim is legit)...

Well, I'm pretty set on either killing Derpmind or... Broken Base.

See. The thing is, lynching Broken Base will either reveal them as the NPC they claim while only costing town an active player with no claimed powers beyond a private chat.... Or it will reveal them as a PC, in which case we lynch LMBF.

If Broken Base is not a PC, we can assume we still have two PCs running around and they aren't LMBF. If they are a PC, it is very likely they are covering for a PC partner.

Certainly, it won't prove LMBF as town per se, for Broken Base to flip not maf, but it will suggest Broken Baseis telling the truth about being a lyncher. And in the case Broken Base is a lyncher, we aren't robbing her of her win to lynch her now.

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But like.
Why would the lyncher be in a mason? Wouldn't it make more sense for them to be able to coordinate with the maf?

 

[Terrabrand]

But like.
Why would the lyncher be in a mason? Wouldn't it make more sense for them to be able to coordinate with the maf?

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Even if they are in with a maf, Broken Base flipping not PC would at least confirm they aren't the maf entire.

 

[Cheese4Every1]

Terrabrand's point that B.B. could be lying about being a successful lyncher is a valid possibility. I sort of feel like if her and LMBF really were Mafia they would try not to reveal their connection to one another, but who am I to say? I think I'll stick to voting up Derpmind for this day, and if that doesn't work out I'd be willing to consider the possibility of lynching B.B. just for confirmation. My only concern is that if she's telling the truth we'd waste a lynch and lose one of our most active scum hunters. Could that be a risk worth taking though? Absolutely, assuming Derpmind ends up being legit. Possibly Notte as well.

 

[Bea]

Let's be honest here: You could look at the reasons I blocked Pawn as a lie, but you can't really look at the fact that he got blocked as one. So I'm not quite seeing how he could've lied there, other than what he'd have done if not blocked. But since said action wouldn't have been the kill, it doesn't really matter.

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Point. I'll run the logic through my head, make sure it tracks, but it's a good solid boost.

...If I see something wrong, Imma argue with it, okay?

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A-Okay. Doing better now, that shouldn't have happened. Sorry.

I'm sorry you're frustrated, but you do realize this would be an excellent ploy if you and LMBF were the remaining scum?

Since we wouldn't lynch any PCs until far too late, in that case?

Lyncher on a powerful town role actually is anti-town, though.
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This is fair, a Day set point would have been better. And I think I was using some semantics that really only made sense in my head, I concede.

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Well, I'm pretty set on either killing Derpmind or... Broken Base.

See. The thing is, lynching Broken Base will either reveal them as the NPC they claim while only costing town an active player with no claimed powers beyond a private chat.... Or it will reveal them as a PC, in which case we lynch LMBF.

If Broken Base is not a PC, we can assume we still have two PCs running around and they aren't LMBF. If they are a PC, it is very likely they are covering for a PC partner.

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Like let me handle this now that I'm not being all weird. Like, at the end of the day, I promise I want the PCs to lose. So if you lynching me will genuinely help with that, I am in favor of it. I mean I know I'm NOT a PC but I get your point that WIFOM and slightly gutsy fakeclaims. If it gives you confidence that LMBF isn't a PC... well, that cuts down on the suspect pool. I think it might be better to focus on people that are more actively fishy, at least in my opinion, and save this as kind of an option of last resort. But if you want to expend it now, that's fine. Clearly I could use the breather.

 

[Nanimani]

Terrabrand's point that B.B. could be lying about being a successful lyncher is a valid possibility. I sort of feel like if her and LMBF really were Mafia they would try not to reveal their connection to one another, but who am I to say? I think I'll stick to voting up Derpmind for this day, and if that doesn't work out I'd be willing to consider the possibility of lynching B.B. just for confirmation. My only concern is that if she's telling the truth we'd waste a lynch and lose one of our most active scum hunters. Could that be a risk worth taking though? Absolutely, assuming Derpmind ends up being legit. Possibly Notte as well.

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I mean, she didn't want LMBF revealing that connection, just had it as a contingency if he was gonna be lynched. Then he revealed early.
So...

Yeah.

 

[Terrabrand]

Like let me handle this now that I'm not being all weird. Like, at the end of the day, I promise I want the PCs to lose. So if you lynching me will genuinely help with that, I am in favor of it. I mean I know I'm NOT a PC but I get your point that WIFOM and slightly gutsy fakeclaims. If it gives you confidence that LMBF isn't a PC... well, that cuts down on the suspect pool. I think it might be better to focus on people that are more actively fishy, at least in my opinion, and save this as kind of an option of last resort. But if you want to expend it now, that's fine. Clearly I could use the breather.

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Currently I want Derpmind dead. There's really no reason the guy giving day messages couldn't also be the scum controlling the games, and I flat don't believe his claim of being nightkilled.

Because we have, what? Me, him, Rem (who definitely is at least a medium), Notteboy , you, and Letmebefree as the only possible players to perform his claimed scum nightkill and the confirmed one?

That's six players total. I know I didn't do it. I'm pretty solid on Rem as NPC right about now. He obviously claims neither kill. Unless you helping lynch Winged Cat was truly inspired bussing, that'd be, what? Me having a double kill? Me and notteboy both killing (and why would I throw him under the bus if we're scummates?)

Like, Pawn could be maf. I still strongly expect that. But he can't be the killer barring some kind of crazy strongman kill (that involves filling a house with spinies?) Because he was jailed. Nani can't have been killing, because he was busy jailing Pawn. (Barring the unlikely case of scum that can both jail and kill, which I seriously doubt given the lack of tracker/watcher type roles with which to catch it)

 

[Cheese4Every1]

I mean, she didn't want LMBF revealing that connection, just had it as a contingency if he was gonna be lynched. Then he revealed early.
So...

Yeah.

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Once again, definitely a fair point.

I WANT to trust broken base. I really do. I kind of agree that lynching her should be a contingency plan if all else fails. It would give us confirmation of 2 people after all. If it has to be done today then that's fine, I can live with that if it helps narrow down suspects.

 

[Nictis]

Didn't expect you to have a power beyond mason.

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I didn't until Medieval was lynched.

I sort of feel like if her and LMBF really were Mafia they would try not to reveal their connection to one another

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Well...

Goddamnit LMBF. That was completely and totally freaking unnecessary. I tried to tell you in chat to not claim

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[Nictis]

Yeah, Derpmind seems like a fair choice for the moment.

[X] Lynch Derpmind
(Notteboy is still in this? I have no memory of what they are, halp)

 

[Nanimani]

Thing is, we shouldn't be thinking of individual scum, we should be thinking in terms of teams.
You can have all the suspicion on a single person you want, they have to fit in with someone else as well. If there ain't a combination where you can go "This is possible", then ain't it.

 

[Nanimani]

Yeah, Derpmind seems like a fair choice for the moment.

[X] Lynch Derpmind
(Notteboy is still in this? I have no memory of what they are, halp)

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Claimed Vanilla, backed up Riki's claim.

 

[Terrabrand]

Yeah, Derpmind seems like a fair choice for the moment.

[X] Lynch Derpmind
(Notteboy is still in this? I have no memory of what they are, halp)

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Notteboy claims Vanilla Koopa Troopa, backed up Riki but we know we have informed scum sooo. Could be lying.

 

[Derpmind]

I also don't believe you because you claim to specifically be immune to Sabotage but we now know that non-sabotage kills exist. (Though admittedly the new one is apparently a strongman).

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I'm assuming that the binary infection stuff is what it looks like to be Sabotaged. I mean, aside from the red text, there's been no flavor given in the main thread as to how the sabotage kill looks. I'm hoping that Cyricubed will be able to confirm through deadchat, since the only other one to be Sabotaged is Archeo Lumiere sabotaging himself.

I don't see the logic in lynching BB. You might think my claim of being targeted for a night kill last night is suspicious, but BB claiming to be an Excecutor and having fufilled her objective makes no sense as a PC. BB already has thread trust, so trying to fake out thread by revealing as an Executioner is doing zero advantage to BB. Plus it doesn't make sense for Bowser to be both an Executioner and a PC, the flavor just doesn't make sense.

 

[Terrabrand]

Bit of an outside possibility, but I could see a scum team of Nani and Pawn. I'm not finding it likely, but they know we have no claimed watchers/trackers and everyone has claimed a role of some kind so far.

So if Nani and Pawn agreed to claim Pawn was barreled, they could both have taken a night action, if scum, and then gotten proof of 'innocence' in the killings by backing each other.

I'm assuming that the binary infection stuff is what it looks like to be Sabotaged. I mean, aside from the red text, there's been no flavor given in the main thread as to how the sabotage kill looks. I'm hoping that Cyricubed will be able to confirm through deadchat, since the only other one to be Sabotaged is Archeo Lumiere sabotaging himself.

I don't see the logic in lynching BB. You might think my claim of being targeted for a night kill last night is suspicious, but BB claiming to be an Excecutor and having fufilled her objective makes no sense as a PC. BB already has thread trust, so trying to fake out thread by revealing as an Executioner is doing zero advantage to BB. Plus it doesn't make sense for Bowser to be both an Executioner and a PC, the flavor just doesn't make sense.

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Hello, wall of lies.

one @Archeo Lumiere. The games are postponed for a half hour waiting for their appearance, but they fail to appear, as a result they have been eliminated from the games for not being present to participate. Later in the day it was announced that they had been coated in rubber cement and were unable to leave their residence.

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The answer for Cyricubed would come much later in the day after the game was started despite delaying for their appearance. Their entire house had been filled with Spinys causing any attempt to leave their home to be too dangerous to their physical health.

Daisy a CPU has been Sabotaged.

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Flavor present on sabotage.

And as to BB, if they are a PC the executioner part was likely itself a lie.

 

[Terrabrand]

Like. Sabotage now has a consistent pattern to look at. 'they can leave home to participate, because X physical, mundane, Mario reason'

 

[Bea]

Bit of an outside possibility, but I could see a scum team of Nani and Pawn. I'm not finding it likely, but they know we have no claimed watchers/trackers and everyone has claimed a role of some kind so far.

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From my eye town feels WAAAAY underpowered, even with the rolecop, if that's true. I mean look at archeo's crazy role. Nani would have to be a Scum Jailer. Also feels like something beyond a redirector should exist to protect your PRs. Like I'd put it at... 5% shot they're both telling the truth 93% shot one is and one is lying scum, and a 2% Crazy Conspiracy Possibility that this is all a weird gambit.

And as to BB, if they are a PC the executioner part was likely itself a lie.

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A PC Lyncher/Executioner does sound like a neat role though. Maybe- if X player gets lynched, you get X powers/power boost?