- Pronouns
- She/Her
Both fair and Q could have an explanation. Just makes me uncomfortable.
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Mafio Party
- Thread starter ComiTurtle
- Start date
- Mafia
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- Tags
- mafia
Both fair and Q could have an explanation. Just makes me uncomfortable.
- Location
- NZ
Did I seriously not quote WC's telling someone to investigate him earlier when I was saying WC should be lynched? I must not have been alert enough to quote that, my mind's a bit more sharp atm because of willing myself to actually fight for my cpu's life.
I am sure there is something of value in noting at what point people mention something damning about someone elses posts, since WC's thing had been there for about a day and no one really attacked him for it specifically until now.
Yeah, Q promised to switch onto Cake and had an hour apparently to wait for me to role claim.
I am sure there is something of value in noting at what point people mention something damning about someone elses posts, since WC's thing had been there for about a day and no one really attacked him for it specifically until now.
Yeah, Q promised to switch onto Cake and had an hour apparently to wait for me to role claim.
- Location
- Academy City
- Pronouns
- They
[X] Null rikimaru
[X] Lynch Winged Cat
I did say I would. Got distracted writing something, sorry about that. Thanks for the notification @Broken Base
[X] Lynch Winged Cat
I did say I would. Got distracted writing something, sorry about that. Thanks for the notification @Broken Base
Nictis
Best Sidekick
- Location
- Ninja Dave's Cookies
- Pronouns
- Any
Stop telling people to follow Terra.
And you agree with me being tired? I mean, I guess.
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I'm pretty sure Terra is confirmed town cop with dayvig powers and will lead us to the promised land, non-believer.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
Decided to check Discord and Winged Cat is not currently on it. Was gonna give him a courtesy ping on the maf server if he had been online, but since he's not, not much more to do.
Eight minutes to go, and I just have to hope for the best here.
Eight minutes to go, and I just have to hope for the best here.
Also three masons in a trenchcoat, a transporter, and with full knowledge of the setup. Totes.
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him
And that is time, no further posts.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
- Location
- NZ
That post was me haphazardly trying to articulate, that I was requesting that my change from cake to winged wouldn't leave me getting myself lynched if people weren't active or something to change their votes enough..
At the point of me writing it, it was 5-5-4 and so I was concerned about my life.
Usually last hour is a wasteland but the stars aligned and day end is basically at what seems like semi-peak mafia time.
Day 1 End/Night 1 Start: The Fall of a Hero
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Neither the crowd or players were prepared for the event to begin during this opening ceremony, but despite the odd feelings in the backs of all their heads they began discussion. A figure clad in green with overalls draws the ire of the players much to the audience's confusion. However as the clock ticks on their ire fades and others are found wanting and suspect. Words were shared and as the deadline for a decision raced towards a close, he who had drew the other player's ire in the early parts of the competition found himself suddenly the one to be eliminated yet again.
The Lakitu once again descended from the now a darkening turquoise sky, floating beside the podium in the center of the arena beckoning forth @Winged Cat the plumber to the stage, allowing them a chance to speak their mind before being exiled from the gaming grounds, the crowd grew quiet heeding every word of the who they found once a noble hero, and when their speech concluded the grounds were still with silence for what felt like hours despite being only a few minutes.
That silence was broken by the announcer who took to the podium, "And with those words Luigi, has been eliminated from the games for unsportsmanlike conduct, well to be more precise expected of such vitriol. What could be their motive for such dastardly ideas and whims? We may never truly know that inquiry, but with one of this kingdom's great heroes the first to go this certainly will continue to be an event to be remembered for years! Hero's out for themselves? Is this a new development or has Luigi always been a liar and cheat? Has he tricked us into loving him?"
The crowd roars into a chant of, "Lying Luigi," venom in their voices their love of a hero tarnished, be it because of lost gambling bets or a sudden ire for the hero. Many objects are pelted at Luigi from the crowd as the other players are ushered out to their residences before the first proper game was to occur. Luigi ascends hoisted up by a different Lakitu's fishing rod dripping fruit as they are carried to location unknown.
Luigi a PC has been Exiled for Unsportsmanlike Conduct.
Night One has begun. You have 48 hours from this post until day's end.
The Lakitu once again descended from the now a darkening turquoise sky, floating beside the podium in the center of the arena beckoning forth @Winged Cat the plumber to the stage, allowing them a chance to speak their mind before being exiled from the gaming grounds, the crowd grew quiet heeding every word of the who they found once a noble hero, and when their speech concluded the grounds were still with silence for what felt like hours despite being only a few minutes.
That silence was broken by the announcer who took to the podium, "And with those words Luigi, has been eliminated from the games for unsportsmanlike conduct, well to be more precise expected of such vitriol. What could be their motive for such dastardly ideas and whims? We may never truly know that inquiry, but with one of this kingdom's great heroes the first to go this certainly will continue to be an event to be remembered for years! Hero's out for themselves? Is this a new development or has Luigi always been a liar and cheat? Has he tricked us into loving him?"
The crowd roars into a chant of, "Lying Luigi," venom in their voices their love of a hero tarnished, be it because of lost gambling bets or a sudden ire for the hero. Many objects are pelted at Luigi from the crowd as the other players are ushered out to their residences before the first proper game was to occur. Luigi ascends hoisted up by a different Lakitu's fishing rod dripping fruit as they are carried to location unknown.
Luigi a PC has been Exiled for Unsportsmanlike Conduct.
Night One has begun. You have 48 hours from this post until day's end.
Game Ruling: Clarity in All Things
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him
There are some things that are important for the integrity of the game as a whole. The rules are clear, but how one should arbitrate their violations are not, it is subjective of what would be a just punishment for any violation.
A player has deleted a post, a post made after the falling of night and thus a bar on posting in thread. I know that others have laid their eyes on the post and thus the only fair thing to do is to share the post with everyone and remind everyone to not delete or edit posts in the future AND to not post after night fall unless given explicit permission to do so.
@Archeo Lumiere had made a post reading
You have received a warning for these actions, as I believe that to be punishment enough. Everyone please continue with the game.
A player has deleted a post, a post made after the falling of night and thus a bar on posting in thread. I know that others have laid their eyes on the post and thus the only fair thing to do is to share the post with everyone and remind everyone to not delete or edit posts in the future AND to not post after night fall unless given explicit permission to do so.
@Archeo Lumiere had made a post reading
You have received a warning for these actions, as I believe that to be punishment enough. Everyone please continue with the game.
Winged Cat
For Science!
- Location
- Silicon Valley
Even if I was scum, what I said was true. I really did not have any suspicions - I was analyzing to see if anyone was a third party who might be opposed to us and town - so squeezing me for some yielded none.
I find the whole concept of "I don't have any suspicions yet" being lynchworthy to be incredibly toxic. If that is being held as the standard of play, I will not have anything further to do with this community.
(I'm tempted to reveal my fellow scum, but that would just be petty. Play on.)
I find the whole concept of "I don't have any suspicions yet" being lynchworthy to be incredibly toxic. If that is being held as the standard of play, I will not have anything further to do with this community.
(I'm tempted to reveal my fellow scum, but that would just be petty. Play on.)
Player Replacement
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him
@Cakestepid due to time restraints has chosen to be replaced by @Nanimani. Thank you very much for playing Cake and thank you Nanimani for stepping in for them.
Also allowing Nanimani to make a confirm post if they wish to despite it being night time.
Also allowing Nanimani to make a confirm post if they wish to despite it being night time.
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Night 1 End/Day 2 Start: The Hunt for Ancients
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him
The sun rises the following morning and all competitors gather together, well all but one @Archeo Lumiere. The games are postponed for a half hour waiting for their appearance, but they fail to appear, as a result they have been eliminated from the games for not being present to participate. Later in the day it was announced that they had been coated in rubber cement and were unable to leave their residence.
Waluigi a PC has been Sabotaged.
With the delay of a half hour passed the games would continue, the stadium though was certainly different then yesterday's. As today a large sandpit had been dug and filled with swaying Pokeys and dancing Fire Snakes. Yet it was cordoned off with ropes like a boxing ring, with only two entrances with a shovel laying at the stoop of each gate, this didn't seem like a challenge for the group whatever it was.
"Welcome back players today we have a special treat for our audience by demand from on high two individuals have been selected to battle it out for the first event, @Broken Base and @Terrabrand, they will fight off the inhabitants of this here 'Portable Desert' shoveling for a treasure buried beneath these ancient sands! A treasure claimed to be older than the Mushroom Kingdom itself! What wonders await our soon to be weary competitors as they search for victory in this first challenge?" The Announcer pauses as a wave of applause rolls through the spectator seats.
"Now step right up you two and collect your gear," restarts the announcer, "As only you two are participating in today's festivities you are the only individuals that can be caught in any act of unsportsmanlike conduct today, but everyone still has their voice even if they are not playing." The Lakitu looks over a card stashed in his scarf and his eyes squint at it, "Seems I have nothing further to read on this matter please begin, let the Hunt for Ancients begin!"
A Duel Event has been started: which means for this day phase the only players that can be voted to be Lynched are @Broken Base and @Terrabrand. Votes for any other players will not be counted.
Day 2 has begun. You have 72 hours from this post until day's end.
Waluigi a PC has been Sabotaged.
With the delay of a half hour passed the games would continue, the stadium though was certainly different then yesterday's. As today a large sandpit had been dug and filled with swaying Pokeys and dancing Fire Snakes. Yet it was cordoned off with ropes like a boxing ring, with only two entrances with a shovel laying at the stoop of each gate, this didn't seem like a challenge for the group whatever it was.
"Welcome back players today we have a special treat for our audience by demand from on high two individuals have been selected to battle it out for the first event, @Broken Base and @Terrabrand, they will fight off the inhabitants of this here 'Portable Desert' shoveling for a treasure buried beneath these ancient sands! A treasure claimed to be older than the Mushroom Kingdom itself! What wonders await our soon to be weary competitors as they search for victory in this first challenge?" The Announcer pauses as a wave of applause rolls through the spectator seats.
"Now step right up you two and collect your gear," restarts the announcer, "As only you two are participating in today's festivities you are the only individuals that can be caught in any act of unsportsmanlike conduct today, but everyone still has their voice even if they are not playing." The Lakitu looks over a card stashed in his scarf and his eyes squint at it, "Seems I have nothing further to read on this matter please begin, let the Hunt for Ancients begin!"
A Duel Event has been started: which means for this day phase the only players that can be voted to be Lynched are @Broken Base and @Terrabrand. Votes for any other players will not be counted.
Day 2 has begun. You have 72 hours from this post until day's end.
- Pronouns
- She/Her
... Well played scum.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
Hum. Well, assuming that's enemy action and not random, that's a thing.
Be right back with my post lynch notes.
Be right back with my post lynch notes.
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I've got some stuff I wrote in the night because I thought it was kinda important? I'll get to more analysis- primarily looking at potential Winged Cat linkage though I will probably revisit their play too before the day is over. But I want to get the pre-written stuff out of the way first. I think it's kind of important. The first part is in context of Winged Cat being scum and me backing off them.
Sooooo this looks bad. I know. And I'm writing this out before Day Start because I KNOW it looks bad. I could note that I was the second vote on Winged Cat after Terra, I could But let me explain. A minor reason is I lost faith in my own arguments. You see that happening with Riki and Cake too; I'm waffly, which I do want to correct.
But there's a bigger reason:
I thought Winged Cat was a mason.
Now this may sound bizarre and crazy, but I'd like to think it won't in a bit. Because there is an interaction between two players that to me made no sense, and still makes very little outside scummates, aside from Winged Cat and that user being masons. I obviously wasn't going to try and push a Mason wagon through to a claim, especially when the other Mason, I felt, was being super super obvious. I ended up giving in at the end of the day because honestly, I couldn't be SURE WC was a mason, it was a hunch I had, and was it really worse than lynching somebody that could be a powerful PR, or somebody that outside the claim I was much more sure was town?
But hey, they aren't a mason. They're probably just scum. I mostly doubted that because they were being so upfront about their coordination (that word might give away who it is) but here we are.
Winged Cat deliberately links to them and follows their lead and while I may take that as him linking himself to another player that might not be able to adequately defend themselves, they link themselves to Winged Cat right back. The two act in concert on multiple occassions and are just connected, and as I hope you'll see, it's kind of impossible to deny that.
For the record, that user is derpmind.
Analysis coming in Post 2.
Sooooo this looks bad. I know. And I'm writing this out before Day Start because I KNOW it looks bad. I could note that I was the second vote on Winged Cat after Terra, I could But let me explain. A minor reason is I lost faith in my own arguments. You see that happening with Riki and Cake too; I'm waffly, which I do want to correct.
But there's a bigger reason:
I thought Winged Cat was a mason.
Now this may sound bizarre and crazy, but I'd like to think it won't in a bit. Because there is an interaction between two players that to me made no sense, and still makes very little outside scummates, aside from Winged Cat and that user being masons. I obviously wasn't going to try and push a Mason wagon through to a claim, especially when the other Mason, I felt, was being super super obvious. I ended up giving in at the end of the day because honestly, I couldn't be SURE WC was a mason, it was a hunch I had, and was it really worse than lynching somebody that could be a powerful PR, or somebody that outside the claim I was much more sure was town?
But hey, they aren't a mason. They're probably just scum. I mostly doubted that because they were being so upfront about their coordination (that word might give away who it is) but here we are.
Winged Cat deliberately links to them and follows their lead and while I may take that as him linking himself to another player that might not be able to adequately defend themselves, they link themselves to Winged Cat right back. The two act in concert on multiple occassions and are just connected, and as I hope you'll see, it's kind of impossible to deny that.
For the record, that user is derpmind.
Analysis coming in Post 2.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
This is what I concluded immediately post lynch from reviewing the thread.
Players:
1. @Letmebefree
Possible soft claim of power role in response to Broken Base's query.
Low but non-zero evidence of townnesss in his willingness to vote Winged Cat when they were the early wagons. Could be bussing, though.
2. @Lizard Knight
Being weird. Uncertain. Could have been trying to cover for a teammate in his initial defense of Letmebefree. Keep an eye out for evidence to confirm or deny.
Very specifically did not wagon on Winged Cat early. Second to jump on eleventh hour Winged Cat bandwagon. Unlikely to be bussing.
3. @Ellf
Unlikely to be a teammate of Letmebefree, due to timing of joining wagon. Little data.
4. @Winged Cat
Was scum, was Luigi. Was almost certainly a godfather given his repeated invitation to investigate him, and if not then scum had some kind of redirective power or something. Scum Veteran, maybe? Regardless.
5. @Pawn Lelouch
Lowgrade town read; he was the first to suggest Winged Cat's reveal could be through being informed scum. Could be bussing, but I doubt if he was a teammate that he would undermine the narrative.
His agreement with me on sportsmanlike characters may suggest he is town Waluigi, Bowser, or similar.
6. @Rikimaru
Immediately jumps on Letmebefree with no stated reasoning, which draws lynch attention to the latter. Unlikely to be masonmates or scummates.
Very high probability scum read. Update: less likely to be scum, his flailing reminds me of his play back in The Stars Are Right.
Has name claimed Shy Guy under pressure. Has role claimed vanilla. Was backed by Notteboy97.
7. @Derpmind
Winged Cat being scum pushes Derpmind up my list.
His defense of Winged Cat/ attack on my and Broken Base's character could easily be scum trying to give support on the sly.
8. @Nictis
In full performer mode thus far, but I've not noticed that as an alignment thing. It's something he does based on role, yes, but not so much alignment.
Very likely town, though serial killer or the like is not impossible. Persistently was opposed to Winged Cat and was one of the early ones willing to jump over with me. Third for the eleventh hour Winged Cat bandwagon.
9. @Broken Base
Estimating low odds that they are scum with Pawn Lelouch due to first choice of vote, however vote was early enough it could be harmless bussing. Almost certainly not scum with Winged Cat.
Town read. First to join my eleventh hour Winged Cat bandwagon. Town almost certainly.
10. @Cheese4Every1
Selected Rikimaru over Winged Cat. Could be a scum buddy. Scrutinize.
11. @Archeo Lumiere
better than even odds is town.
His post about CPU etc supports the idea he is town given Winged Cat's scumness. But it came late enough it could be bussing. He didn't even vote Winged Cat, so fairly safe scum bussing there, possibly.
12. @Cyricubed
Unlikely to be a teammate of Letmebefree, due to timing of jumping on wagon. Possibly innocent speculation on cheating humans, possibly scum with more subtlety than Riki.
Jumped on the Winged Cat bandwagon as it was dying down. Jumped off after we started to move to Riki.
Continued to state suspicion of Winged Cat. Fourth to join the eleventh hour bandwagon.
13. @Joebobjoe
Is unlikely to be scum with Winged Cat. townish. As Winged Cat was scumz this increases my town read of Joe.
Joebobjoe claims to be a minor villain he could see as a mason with certain characters, but isn't one. Waluigi, is that you, bro?
14. @MedievalParadox
No data.
15. @QTesseract
Winged Cat voted him for inactivity early. This could mean anything, given eg me voting atk50 for the same in Cannibal Capers.
Selected Rikimaru over Winged Cat. On the other hand, places Winged Cat as second highest sus. But could be bussing.
Final join of eleventh hour wagon. By then Winged Cat was up for death, so this could easily be scum bussing.
@Terrabrand
Me. [Redacted] character.
17. @NotteBoy97
Positioned himself semi against Winged Cat.
18. @Rem
No solid data.
19. @Cakestepid
Unlikely to be a teammate with Letmebefree, he jumps on the wagon at exactly the wrong time for that.
My notes, updated in light of Winged Cat being proven scum.
Furthermore, we can conclude that Nictis is not part of the main scum group. It's not inconceivable he is eg a serial killer, but with Archeo's error, it seems clear Sabotage was Archeo's own Nightkill command, and he was targeting Nictis.
That also means we have some kind of redirection class power around.
Players:
1. @Letmebefree
Possible soft claim of power role in response to Broken Base's query.
Low but non-zero evidence of townnesss in his willingness to vote Winged Cat when they were the early wagons. Could be bussing, though.
2. @Lizard Knight
Being weird. Uncertain. Could have been trying to cover for a teammate in his initial defense of Letmebefree. Keep an eye out for evidence to confirm or deny.
Very specifically did not wagon on Winged Cat early. Second to jump on eleventh hour Winged Cat bandwagon. Unlikely to be bussing.
3. @Ellf
Unlikely to be a teammate of Letmebefree, due to timing of joining wagon. Little data.
4. @Winged Cat
Was scum, was Luigi. Was almost certainly a godfather given his repeated invitation to investigate him, and if not then scum had some kind of redirective power or something. Scum Veteran, maybe? Regardless.
5. @Pawn Lelouch
Lowgrade town read; he was the first to suggest Winged Cat's reveal could be through being informed scum. Could be bussing, but I doubt if he was a teammate that he would undermine the narrative.
His agreement with me on sportsmanlike characters may suggest he is town Waluigi, Bowser, or similar.
6. @Rikimaru
Immediately jumps on Letmebefree with no stated reasoning, which draws lynch attention to the latter. Unlikely to be masonmates or scummates.
Very high probability scum read. Update: less likely to be scum, his flailing reminds me of his play back in The Stars Are Right.
Has name claimed Shy Guy under pressure. Has role claimed vanilla. Was backed by Notteboy97.
7. @Derpmind
Winged Cat being scum pushes Derpmind up my list.
His defense of Winged Cat/ attack on my and Broken Base's character could easily be scum trying to give support on the sly.
8. @Nictis
In full performer mode thus far, but I've not noticed that as an alignment thing. It's something he does based on role, yes, but not so much alignment.
Very likely town, though serial killer or the like is not impossible. Persistently was opposed to Winged Cat and was one of the early ones willing to jump over with me. Third for the eleventh hour Winged Cat bandwagon.
9. @Broken Base
Estimating low odds that they are scum with Pawn Lelouch due to first choice of vote, however vote was early enough it could be harmless bussing. Almost certainly not scum with Winged Cat.
Town read. First to join my eleventh hour Winged Cat bandwagon. Town almost certainly.
10. @Cheese4Every1
Selected Rikimaru over Winged Cat. Could be a scum buddy. Scrutinize.
11. @Archeo Lumiere
better than even odds is town.
His post about CPU etc supports the idea he is town given Winged Cat's scumness. But it came late enough it could be bussing. He didn't even vote Winged Cat, so fairly safe scum bussing there, possibly.
12. @Cyricubed
Unlikely to be a teammate of Letmebefree, due to timing of jumping on wagon. Possibly innocent speculation on cheating humans, possibly scum with more subtlety than Riki.
Jumped on the Winged Cat bandwagon as it was dying down. Jumped off after we started to move to Riki.
Continued to state suspicion of Winged Cat. Fourth to join the eleventh hour bandwagon.
13. @Joebobjoe
Is unlikely to be scum with Winged Cat. townish. As Winged Cat was scumz this increases my town read of Joe.
Joebobjoe claims to be a minor villain he could see as a mason with certain characters, but isn't one. Waluigi, is that you, bro?
14. @MedievalParadox
No data.
15. @QTesseract
Winged Cat voted him for inactivity early. This could mean anything, given eg me voting atk50 for the same in Cannibal Capers.
Selected Rikimaru over Winged Cat. On the other hand, places Winged Cat as second highest sus. But could be bussing.
Final join of eleventh hour wagon. By then Winged Cat was up for death, so this could easily be scum bussing.
@Terrabrand
Me. [Redacted] character.
17. @NotteBoy97
Positioned himself semi against Winged Cat.
18. @Rem
No solid data.
19. @Cakestepid
Unlikely to be a teammate with Letmebefree, he jumps on the wagon at exactly the wrong time for that.
My notes, updated in light of Winged Cat being proven scum.
Furthermore, we can conclude that Nictis is not part of the main scum group. It's not inconceivable he is eg a serial killer, but with Archeo's error, it seems clear Sabotage was Archeo's own Nightkill command, and he was targeting Nictis.
That also means we have some kind of redirection class power around.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
Sadly, I think today might be a day for a no lynch. I'm nearly certain Broken Base is also Town, I know I am, and I seriously doubt scum have the ability to do this continously, if indeed it was scum action.
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I'm glad Terra posted because it lets me post this:
This post may look a little better than it is, I think, because it grants leniency to LMBF, but it's actually pretty bad. It's worth noting that this is after the LMBF wagon has started to die. So really it's super waffly and could even be a potential desire to couch themselves back on a wagon if it surges again. (Also did he really just suggest lynching LMBF over flavor? It reads that way to me.)
The second part is just a little snipey, not a big deal, except...
Winged Cat immediately follows aboard, starting a wagon on Nictis. This is the sort of thing I'm talking about when I talk about coordination. Derp starts it, and then Winged suddenly jumps on. This reads to me like a scum attempt to get a wagon started on Nictis (Which would be major town points for Nictis).
Clearly I find this scummy because he voted me.
Only I don't. I find it scummy because he spends a couple sentences defending WC on flawed reasons (nobody is suspecting him for being supportive of no-lynching, that is his position and it's fine) and I've played 3 games and sucked in 2 (probably 3). I'm hardly a "veteran" player. I guess he could be talking about Terra and Nictis, but I feel like I pushed a little harder than Terra did, at least. But even if I grant that, it being veteran players has nothing to do with anything. Nictis could be playing his first game and have made the exact same argument against WC. Same for me. It's unlikely but not impossible by any stretch.
He accuses Terra of building walls, when he hadn't been from what I can see. I was spaghetti posting, but that's because the nature of WC's arguments is impossible to respond to without a mess without spaghetti-ing in turn. (I can explain why if anybody'd like) I also like how Winged Cat's point-by-point response to me wasn't "breaking out the big guns". I admit Terra and I were working together but like... that's how it's rolling this game, yo.
As Terra pointed out, his play makes no sense as a scum-team coordinating. I would just add that I would never ask Terra to work with me like that, and yell at him to stop in Scumchat. At some point before the end of D1 we'd have stopped being in-sync.
Finally, out of the two of us, seemingly both equally possible in his eyes, he votes me... the same person Winged Cat voted. I think it's memorable enough, with me being policy-lynched for LAL and all, to not have to quote it.
The second part, I'm sorry, but I genuinely don't believe that Derp missed how the two of them were becoming linked. I don't. I only noted it twice at the time, so not enemy action by Moscow Rules, but still definitely worth noting. I thought he was trying to scare me away because he was a mason and he REALLY wanted this wagon on the buddy to die, if anything it was mild signaling. I honestly worried I was too blatant about that in my next post
Preparing my backaway in case I decide the Mason claim is plausible, which I decided it was, especially given the size of the game.
But anyway, the first part- "anyone in the game could have done" actually, looking at it again, almost seems like an admission that he knows scum know the Town info? He's just making that casually as a declarative fact.
And I actually feel like it's different from Riki. In Riki's case, he did it in a separate dedicated post and in many respects it was clear speculation- really the oddest part was what felt like an awkward walkback. Here though it is a casual comment that is used as actual evidence against WC being scum. Like, this feels a lot worse.
Honestly it feels like my misaimed anger is being used as an attempt to derail the lynch which, while not necessarily scummy I guess, isn't something I'm comfortable with.
Unvotes me the moment that I talk about backing off Winged Cat, with no real explanation. I think we've reached either Mason or Enemy Action, peeps.
This post is pretty meh. Nothing to really say. Nothing super townie, nothing horrible.
As noted in my detailed cost-benefit analysis, this is actually the opposite of true. If I need to go through it again I will, but lynching Mystery Box Cake would have been worse in so many more ways than lynching Rikimaru. For town. For scum it'd be really good, actually. Having Riki isn't the worst thing in the world for town for sure, especially given Notte's backup, but in that moment, in that context, a Riki lynch is just in a lot of ways better. (Trust me if I was scum I would have had NO second thoughts at the 11th hour)
Also I thought you expected to be voting for Rikimaru? Now it makes more sense to lynch the inactive Cake than lynching Riki? I mean it'd be excusable if you gave a reason.
It's worth noting that Derp does not make another post after this. I know this is similar logic to the situation with Q, but I'm still a little worried about that anyway. (I hope that doesn't offend you or anything Q ^_^; )
Finally a really quick look at derp-WC interactions:
Winged Cat weirdly doesn't mention Derpmind in #129 despite it being him backing derp that caused the whole mess in the first place. Not... necessarily scummy, I suppose? But really odd. Agrees with derp again in #156. #198 is actually the first mitigating factor I've seen to a WC/Derp link, in that he makes some of the criticisms of Derp that I have. That said, the analysis is relatively tepid and concludes with Winged Cat saying "There's no way to draw conclusions from this!" So I think maybe it balances out in the end?
It's actually slightly extensive given Derp's rather low amount of posts, but those posts have been involved in the game so it probably balances out somewhat. I would say there isn't much that is a smoking gun here. There is one post that looks kinda... off? But it does in part depend on how WC is playing in regards to his scummates, and it's pretty tepid.
There's a couple mitigating factors here- obviously some of my arguments are stronger than others. But the WC-Derp link is really solid and on both ends, which is really strange if it was scum setting a townie up to fall. And it's not like there aren't other scummy elements of Derp's posting, and WC's interaction only does Derp so many favors. I WOULD say lynch Derp but... you know. Here we are.
ftr I don't think I can outlast Terra- I can't outdebate him, he's simply a better player. But I will get the town as much info as I can because fuck the scum for this garbage.
This post may look a little better than it is, I think, because it grants leniency to LMBF, but it's actually pretty bad. It's worth noting that this is after the LMBF wagon has started to die. So really it's super waffly and could even be a potential desire to couch themselves back on a wagon if it surges again. (Also did he really just suggest lynching LMBF over flavor? It reads that way to me.)
The second part is just a little snipey, not a big deal, except...
Winged Cat immediately follows aboard, starting a wagon on Nictis. This is the sort of thing I'm talking about when I talk about coordination. Derp starts it, and then Winged suddenly jumps on. This reads to me like a scum attempt to get a wagon started on Nictis (Which would be major town points for Nictis).
Clearly I find this scummy because he voted me.
Only I don't. I find it scummy because he spends a couple sentences defending WC on flawed reasons (nobody is suspecting him for being supportive of no-lynching, that is his position and it's fine) and I've played 3 games and sucked in 2 (probably 3). I'm hardly a "veteran" player. I guess he could be talking about Terra and Nictis, but I feel like I pushed a little harder than Terra did, at least. But even if I grant that, it being veteran players has nothing to do with anything. Nictis could be playing his first game and have made the exact same argument against WC. Same for me. It's unlikely but not impossible by any stretch.
He accuses Terra of building walls, when he hadn't been from what I can see. I was spaghetti posting, but that's because the nature of WC's arguments is impossible to respond to without a mess without spaghetti-ing in turn. (I can explain why if anybody'd like) I also like how Winged Cat's point-by-point response to me wasn't "breaking out the big guns". I admit Terra and I were working together but like... that's how it's rolling this game, yo.
As Terra pointed out, his play makes no sense as a scum-team coordinating. I would just add that I would never ask Terra to work with me like that, and yell at him to stop in Scumchat. At some point before the end of D1 we'd have stopped being in-sync.
Finally, out of the two of us, seemingly both equally possible in his eyes, he votes me... the same person Winged Cat voted. I think it's memorable enough, with me being policy-lynched for LAL and all, to not have to quote it.
The second part, I'm sorry, but I genuinely don't believe that Derp missed how the two of them were becoming linked. I don't. I only noted it twice at the time, so not enemy action by Moscow Rules, but still definitely worth noting. I thought he was trying to scare me away because he was a mason and he REALLY wanted this wagon on the buddy to die, if anything it was mild signaling. I honestly worried I was too blatant about that in my next post
Preparing my backaway in case I decide the Mason claim is plausible, which I decided it was, especially given the size of the game.
But anyway, the first part- "anyone in the game could have done" actually, looking at it again, almost seems like an admission that he knows scum know the Town info? He's just making that casually as a declarative fact.
And I actually feel like it's different from Riki. In Riki's case, he did it in a separate dedicated post and in many respects it was clear speculation- really the oddest part was what felt like an awkward walkback. Here though it is a casual comment that is used as actual evidence against WC being scum. Like, this feels a lot worse.
Honestly it feels like my misaimed anger is being used as an attempt to derail the lynch which, while not necessarily scummy I guess, isn't something I'm comfortable with.
Unvotes me the moment that I talk about backing off Winged Cat, with no real explanation. I think we've reached either Mason or Enemy Action, peeps.
This post is pretty meh. Nothing to really say. Nothing super townie, nothing horrible.
As noted in my detailed cost-benefit analysis, this is actually the opposite of true. If I need to go through it again I will, but lynching Mystery Box Cake would have been worse in so many more ways than lynching Rikimaru. For town. For scum it'd be really good, actually. Having Riki isn't the worst thing in the world for town for sure, especially given Notte's backup, but in that moment, in that context, a Riki lynch is just in a lot of ways better. (Trust me if I was scum I would have had NO second thoughts at the 11th hour)
Also I thought you expected to be voting for Rikimaru? Now it makes more sense to lynch the inactive Cake than lynching Riki? I mean it'd be excusable if you gave a reason.
It's worth noting that Derp does not make another post after this. I know this is similar logic to the situation with Q, but I'm still a little worried about that anyway. (I hope that doesn't offend you or anything Q ^_^; )
Finally a really quick look at derp-WC interactions:
Winged Cat weirdly doesn't mention Derpmind in #129 despite it being him backing derp that caused the whole mess in the first place. Not... necessarily scummy, I suppose? But really odd. Agrees with derp again in #156. #198 is actually the first mitigating factor I've seen to a WC/Derp link, in that he makes some of the criticisms of Derp that I have. That said, the analysis is relatively tepid and concludes with Winged Cat saying "There's no way to draw conclusions from this!" So I think maybe it balances out in the end?
It's actually slightly extensive given Derp's rather low amount of posts, but those posts have been involved in the game so it probably balances out somewhat. I would say there isn't much that is a smoking gun here. There is one post that looks kinda... off? But it does in part depend on how WC is playing in regards to his scummates, and it's pretty tepid.
There's a couple mitigating factors here- obviously some of my arguments are stronger than others. But the WC-Derp link is really solid and on both ends, which is really strange if it was scum setting a townie up to fall. And it's not like there aren't other scummy elements of Derp's posting, and WC's interaction only does Derp so many favors. I WOULD say lynch Derp but... you know. Here we are.
ftr I don't think I can outlast Terra- I can't outdebate him, he's simply a better player. But I will get the town as much info as I can because fuck the scum for this garbage.
- Location
- Florida
- Pronouns
- He/Him
So scum have someone who can presumably set up a gladiator situation at night. The question is how many uses or what the cooldown time for it is.
Since that's very powerful but I'm wondering if it ties into Archeo dying with that specific kill flavor as some sort of sacrifice since the Nictis thing wouldn't exactly work well.
Since that's very powerful but I'm wondering if it ties into Archeo dying with that specific kill flavor as some sort of sacrifice since the Nictis thing wouldn't exactly work well.
Ellf
Apprentice Wizard
- Location
- Virginia
I'll say this.
Do not post in mafia threads at night.
Additionally: Do not delete posts.
Staff members like @Broken Base, @Terrabrand, and I can see deleted posts. Archeo Lumiere might have been able to get away with getting rid of Nictis had their post not been in this thread and then deleted.
As for the rest of things....
I don't get a scum vibe off of either of the required lynch targets. Question is... are we required to lynch today. @ComiTurtle , Rules clarification.
Terrabrand and Broken Base are the only available lynch targets. Does that negate the ability of a no lynch?
Do not post in mafia threads at night.
Additionally: Do not delete posts.
Staff members like @Broken Base, @Terrabrand, and I can see deleted posts. Archeo Lumiere might have been able to get away with getting rid of Nictis had their post not been in this thread and then deleted.
As for the rest of things....
I don't get a scum vibe off of either of the required lynch targets. Question is... are we required to lynch today. @ComiTurtle , Rules clarification.
Terrabrand and Broken Base are the only available lynch targets. Does that negate the ability of a no lynch?
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
To be clear, this is my thoughts from today and not part of the notes.
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him
No lynch is a fully viable option this day phase.