A near failure is what got us on Thanos's radar, that seems like a pretty steep punishment for something that isn't a Nat1. Also we crit the tech roll and don't find out who was stealing from us. You also say that the Titan crit didn't factor in but didn't it factor in to the talk to Thanos option. Also the players expected a good result from criting and didn't think that the roll would not matter. When we crited we didn't get anything like maybe the spy network became better in Titan or money is better tracked. Just Thanos covering for his plan.
LokiQuest: Re-Reshape and Retry (CK2)
- Thread starter Black King
- Start date
- Location
- New Mexico
Most of this is due to Asguard crap rolls vs the Invaders good rolls. (IOW the Nat1 was Heimdall getting an eylash on his eyeball and having to wear Odin's eyepatch.)
Good, that means we can assume he's bluffing about the previous wounds for Odin At least. Still need to take him down, just gonna confirm that I want to add my +14 to the take down.
- Location
- Hala
Okay, so the Merc has three weapons that give him a boost. Anyone up for helping me figure out what these boosts are?
Gungnir- ??? (Controlling Odinforce, and the Destroyer)
Hofund- ??? (Bifrost Key, and wield blue flames (comic)
Sceptre- ??? (Mind Resistance? and something else?)
And the Merc also has something special that would be added to the combat roll.
Gungnir- ??? (Controlling Odinforce, and the Destroyer)
Hofund- ??? (Bifrost Key, and wield blue flames (comic)
Sceptre- ??? (Mind Resistance? and something else?)
And the Merc also has something special that would be added to the combat roll.
The scepter has mind control and that's about it. Luckily he probably cant wield all three at the same time.
He probably doesn't know how to use most of that stuff save for blasting. I say we use binding on his hands to make him drop his wreapobs and even the playing field. We could also dc30 seal his eyes, can't got what you can't see.
@KnowledgeKing what is the DC to seal the mercs hands?
Would sealing the mercs hands prevent him from using the weapons?
- Location
- Fifth Dimension
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170
120
150
DC 60
Probably.
I mean...it is supposed to be. Thanos would be terrible at his job if he made things predictable.
He said Loki. Not the leader of PF. Remember, that's still a secret. And it'd make more sense to bring him to the secure palace than to go to his planet and be at his mercy IMO. Can't go to PF headquarters because that's still a secret.
The situation isn't precarious though. Asgard will hold against any army. And it has. But not defending the realms is much worse. It means the enemies of Asgard start gathering together and seeing Asgard as weak. And then multiple armies attack and Asgard falls.
You went to his home planet. That's just a natural thing. Not a punishment. And no one stole from Loki. Loki's customers got stolen from. He just got the tech to begin investigation this turn. The crit made Thanos think a little higher of Loki. That's all.
The crit gave you another action and a bonus to that branch action. Doesn't make sense to assume it gave you nothing when this is still that very same turn. You wouldn't know yet.
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@Sanas22 ok we got our DCs, personally I think we should seal the mercs hands to make him stop using weapons/artifacts for dc60 and use omake points for that and the opposing roll.
Edit: When was PF HQ secret I thought people went there all the time. Also Amira and Lorelei meet Loki to get the job so I thought he was doing the same for Thanos. Also you say we should meet in a secure location but why would like give him that much consideration, like you said he is from a small insignificant planet. About him not specifying he wanted to meet with PF, he also didn't specify he wanted to meet prince Loki. The way he put it felt like he wanted to meet Loki in a personal compacity. @KnowledgeKing
Edit: When was PF HQ secret I thought people went there all the time. Also Amira and Lorelei meet Loki to get the job so I thought he was doing the same for Thanos. Also you say we should meet in a secure location but why would like give him that much consideration, like you said he is from a small insignificant planet. About him not specifying he wanted to meet with PF, he also didn't specify he wanted to meet prince Loki. The way he put it felt like he wanted to meet Loki in a personal compacity. @KnowledgeKing
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Ya it said we would need full points in binding martial to do it without contact. In the chapter where we trained it.
- Location
- New Mexico
@KnowledgeKing — What's the DC for an enchantment inducing paranoia? What's the DC for making it feed on itself, spiraling out of control?
- Location
- Fifth Dimension
?? PF HQ's not secret. Never said that. He specified Loki. That means Prince Loki. Doesn't mean in a royal official manner but it means Loki. If he wanted to meet with the PF head, he would've said that. It's not common knowledge that Loki is the PF head.
You'd have to enchant an item to induce that.
Then it'd be like...DC 65. Feeding on itself is like DC 110-120.
Kufufu
Adequate at best
- Location
- What's it to ya?
And dont forget the most important bit, they each take two hands to use. He's literally got an arm full of weapons that aren't usable for him if we dont let him escape.
Omake: Hel's Musician
Sena Kumo
The Tenth Wandering Cloud
- Location
- Portugal
Hel's Musician.
Everything was absolutely peaceful in Asgard. The birds were chirping, the children were playing and the adults were either working or sparring. Such was the life of a citizen of Asgard.
Again, everything was absolutely peaceful at Asgard.
"Please I beg you, MAKE IT STOP! JUST MAKE IT STOP!"
Well...almost everything.
The little commotion that is otherwise ruining this peaceful day could he located in the commercial district, or more especific, in the musical area of the district.
Inside one of the various shops that sells musical instruments, the cause of this problematic incident was in the form of Loki Odinson, prince of Asgard, who had in his hands once an beautiful instrument, now it's nothing more than broken wood.
"I'm, I'm am really sorry for the damages. I'll promise to pay for it." Loki said apologetic, not really wanting to break it.
He just tried to test it and...it broke.
The shopkeeper tried, and failed, to not show being bothered by it. The prince did promise to pay for it anyway, so no real harm done at least.
Trying to move on from this awkward situation, Loki looks for another Instrument to try his luck. Finding one that picks his interest, he picks the instrument, puts it in the correct position and starts playin-
"What the hell is that noise?!?!?!?"
*CRACK*
-breaking it again.
While some complaints could be heard outside the shop, the inside however was filled with ominous silence as the same result happened.
"...I'll pay for this one as well. Do you have any other instruments that are more...durable?"
The shopkeeper, who tried his best to not cringe and scream in pain at the same time, gave the best smile he could and gritted his teeth, not wanting to anger the prince as long as he was paid.
"Right this, Prince Loki."
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2 hours later
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In the last hour, across the commercial district numerous shops closed. The reason was for mass damage of goods. Musical Instruments to be more exact.
The reason of this was...prince Loki.
What happened in the last two hours could be either described as agonizing, weird, bizarre or terrifying depending of who you asked.
Somehow, no matter what Loki did or which instrument he picked, the result would be the same. He would pick it up, put it in the correct position, play anything at all and they would break.
And the sound they would produce before breaking? Well, if the opinions of the poor bystanders who happened to be there are anything to go by,-
"WHAT IN HEL'S BOWELS IS THAT UNHOLY SOUND?!?!" "Not even my wife was that loud when she was angry!" "My ears. I can't feel my ears! I CAN'T FEEL MY EARS?!?!?!" "PLEASE MAKE IT STOP! JUST MAKE IT STOP!!!!" "○[•€@£ DIDH@£× 'LYETH@¥`₩="
-you don't wish to know!
The unintencional source of this incident was banished from any shop that sold musical instruments, becoming the pariah of all those shopkeepers who while were paid for the damages, would refuse of making business with him unless they were personaly ordered by the King or Queen themselves.
And Loki? Besides discovering that he does not possess even a sliver of talent at playing instruments, was branded with a title that would haunt him and those shopkeepers for years to come.
Hel's Musician.
For only in the deepest and darkest pits of suffering and death could something that unholy come from.
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Canon, @KnowledgeKing? You also didn't respond about the other omake.
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The problem with paranoia is we can't predict what he will do.
@KnowledgeKing Ok he wanted to meet Loki but he didn't specify prince Loki, which I believe should have been taken as outside the palace because it isn't offical. If that was your intent you should have asked the player where the wanted the meeting.
@KnowledgeKing
What is the opposing roll for enchanting a disarming enchant?
What is the DC of an disarming enchant?
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- Location
- Fifth Dimension
Loki is Prince Loki though. Loki has no other place to meet besides the palace. As far as anyone else knows. Also it's the same as the other meetings...if you say yes, you just meet them where you meet them. And where it makes sense. There's no real reason to specify for this one.
Small typos. +10/+5.
Also +10/+5
- Location
- Pee Pee Poo Poo
Everyone been violating Loki lmao
- Location
- Fifth Dimension
Can't think of how a disarming enchant would work. Probably not a thing.
Sena Kumo
The Tenth Wandering Cloud
- Location
- Portugal
Not canon then? Why?
I would argue that what you consider sense isn't what us the players do. Like Loki taking a stranger to the palace without Odin or Thor being around or his mother not warning him this might be a bad idea dispute her experience and knowledge of the military currently. Also I always figured that Loki was meeting people in PF, Thor being the exception because of family. Like Sigyn, I thought we were meeting her outside, maybe a park or something. I think from now on you should either ask or specify where these meetings are happening. @KnowledgeKing
@KnowledgeKing So I think my only problem is that it seems we are expected to use Loki IC , but with our OC knowledge. Which makes sense since it's a part of questing in a well known scenario. However it does confuse people when they have to think "Is this an IC character time or an OC original canon that I need to use?".
Thanos himself if a prime example of this, If we use IC knowledge this meeting wasn't going to end up like this. OC knowledge tells us he's fuck crazy and it's possible. And having to use OC knowledge for IC decisions is just a little confusing.
All that being said Loki is backed into a corner, it's so or die, and Odin is possibly our biggest asset to any sort of reprisal. If he's dead then we will assume kingship with what's left of the treasury. If he's not then we need to help him In any way we can and live through this so we can hire him to attack Titan with us in reprisal.
We're the richest man in the galaxy we know of, easily richer then Thanos, if we can escape and not piss this guy off we can use him at a later time. Maybe take a few intrigue actions to discover why exactly he worked for Thanos so there's no chance of betrayal.
[X] Believe the mercenary leader and take the medicine to his parents
think beyond the immediate and a cool way to die. think long term, there is no way we beat
This uber stated out merc who just killed Frigga and now has 3 god tier weapons. Especially with Thanos behind us and no reinforcements inbound.
Thanos himself if a prime example of this, If we use IC knowledge this meeting wasn't going to end up like this. OC knowledge tells us he's fuck crazy and it's possible. And having to use OC knowledge for IC decisions is just a little confusing.
All that being said Loki is backed into a corner, it's so or die, and Odin is possibly our biggest asset to any sort of reprisal. If he's dead then we will assume kingship with what's left of the treasury. If he's not then we need to help him In any way we can and live through this so we can hire him to attack Titan with us in reprisal.
We're the richest man in the galaxy we know of, easily richer then Thanos, if we can escape and not piss this guy off we can use him at a later time. Maybe take a few intrigue actions to discover why exactly he worked for Thanos so there's no chance of betrayal.
[X] Believe the mercenary leader and take the medicine to his parents
think beyond the immediate and a cool way to die. think long term, there is no way we beat
This uber stated out merc who just killed Frigga and now has 3 god tier weapons. Especially with Thanos behind us and no reinforcements inbound.
- Location
- Fifth Dimension
No one said not canon. Just +10.
But that doesn't make sense. Loki's not the head of PF to literally everyone else in the universe.
Kinda not really. Like you can use Loki 100% IC but then things like this do happen, so the complaining OOC doesn't make sense. It's just an unfortunate event. If the complaining OOC is happening then is it not fair to point out OOC that Thanos is...who he is?