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LokiQuest: Re-Reshape and Retry (CK2)

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Poofs said:
What would we have done with animation?
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Animated objects to make loyal minions.

Mostlyblue said:
We half assed our power choice, I'm not sure why everyone is so surprised we're behind.
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Yep, people wanted to be a forger for some reason, when we were a prince and wouldn't get freedom for awhile. They specifically chose something we couldn't start training for a long time, and complain that we are behind the curve.

Rather than craft or forge, should have just found artifacts and used them, or had Osmond make everything for us, so we could focus on martial or intrigue rather than learning, we could have been Stane with Osmond as Stark.
 
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Animated objects to make loyal minions.


Yep, people wanted to be a forger for some reason, when we were a prince and wouldn't get freedom for awhile. They specifically chose something we couldn't start training for a long time, and complain that we are behind the curve.

Rather than craft or forge, should have just found artifacts and used them, or had Osmond make everything for us, so we could focus on martial or intrigue rather than learning, we could have been Stane with Osmond as Stark.
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Tbf, forging was chosen so that we could support others who got to stand in the lime light. Like Thor. But then we never helped or talked to Thor, and Loki failed to really stick to or make friends. So that turned into a failed endeavor.
 
It's honestly a bit disappointing what this Quest has become as it continued on. I've just binged the original and remake and honestly, it's like you keep making the Exact. Same. Mistakes. Why do you keep either trusting Amora and her sister when you know one is status hungry and the other is power hungry? Why do you keep letting people fuck you over and not ever really doing anything about it? Are we just gonna sit here and act like Amora didn't betray Thor by giving Thanos the Space Stone? Are we gonna sit here and ignore that her sister walked up on our planet like she owned the place with a smirk and threatened to take it if we didn't submit to her sister? Are we just going to ignore that MAYBE we shouldn't trust people whose FATHER'S were killed by our brother? Why. Do. We. Keep. Doing. Stupid. Crap?!?! Why didn't we do more to fight for the Asgard throne? Are we just gonna forget that Amora literally didn't love Thor at all and only wanted to be Queen? Why would we let her become royalty?!?? Why would we allow her access to Odins Library!?! What. The. Hell people?! A good section of the Quest, was spent redoing all the work we did in Asgard to Jotunheim. Why didn't we just KEEP Asgard? Odin probably wouldn't even had a problem with it! Thor just bitch slapped his mom, sired 2 bastards, and became a dead beat dad in like a year! There was a clearly a good argument to be made that maybe Thor doesn't make the best of choices and that may extend to his crazy ass wife, who may I remind you, freaking betrayed him!! Not to even MENTION her sister again. What the hell happened to her not being able to control her charm powers. Amora went off planet to control her crap but never her sister. Doesn't that mean that bitch was LYING to us before the reboot!?!?? She's ALWAYS been untrustworthy! No one else martial or magical prowess were effected BUT hers???? Bullshit!
 
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Now that that's out of the way, I apologise, your choices was making me bang my head against the wall. Especially the one from the old story where Loki was literally SIMP enough to change his entire species just for Hell. Regardless, this is my first Quest reading and it was very interesting. I do thank the Author for all the time, work, and effort he put into these 2 stories.
 
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It's honestly a bit disappointing what this Quest has become as it continued on. I've just binged the original and remake and honestly, it's like you keep making the Exact. Same. Mistakes. Why do you keep either trusting Amora and her sister when you know one is status hungry and the other is power hungry? Why do you keep letting people fuck you over and not ever really doing anything about it? Are we just gonna sit here and act like Amora didn't betray Thor by giving Thanos the Space Stone? Are we gonna sit here and ignore that her sister walked up on our planet like she owned the place with a smirk and threatened to take it if we didn't submit to her sister? Are we just going to ignore that MAYBE we shouldn't trust people whose FATHER'S were killed by our brother? Why. Do. We. Keep. Doing. Stupid. Crap?!?! Why didn't we do more to fight for the Asgard throne? Are we just gonna forget that Amora literally didn't love Thor at all and only wanted to be Queen? Why would we let her become royalty?!?? Why would we allow her access to Odins Library!?! What. The. Hell people?! A good section of the Quest, was spent redoing all the work we did in Asgard to Jotunheim. Why didn't we just KEEP Asgard? Odin probably wouldn't even had a problem with it! Thor just bitch slapped his mom, sired 2 bastards, and became a dead beat dad in like a year! There was a clearly a good argument to be made that maybe Thor doesn't make the best of choices and that may extend to his crazy ass wife, who may I remind you, freaking betrayed him!! Not to even MENTION her sister again. What the hell happened to her not being able to control her charm powers. Amora went off planet to control her crap but never her sister. Doesn't that mean that bitch was LYING to us before the reboot!?!?? She's ALWAYS been untrustworthy! No one else martial or magical prowess were effected BUT hers???? Bullshit!
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If you look at the chat before there were a bunch of people that wanted to trust without the last quest coloring Loki's views. These points were basically brought up during those arguments. Secondly another issue was becoming king of the Jotun in the first place. Me and a bunch of other players saw the rejection coming a mile away. Building up the Jotun and the Asgardians netted Loki nothing and made him lose a lot of AP. Maybe even made it worst when no fail safes were put in because most of the chat wanted him to be a boy scout.

Some of it was the QMs fault considering the info gap between the players and Loki. If you look at other quest there is usually an informational to fill in those gaps but in this quest we usually learn things after the fact. Examples like the lowest DC of magic, how mind magic works and the OG serum side effects (we thought it was already tested).
 
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Heads up regarding that, I might but I'm currently working on my own quest first, so it may take a bit. If I do(or more likely when) don't expect me to be at the same level of Knowledge. I'm kinder but less adequate. Also uh, one last vote for thread I guess?

[] Pick up from Thanos, pretend everything past that was Mind Stone vision
[] Reset from the beginning, do this song and dance again
[] MCU Restart, pick up after Hulk's beat down
 
[X] MCU Restart, pick up after Hulk's beat down

I like a redemption story. Plus this gives us more freedom in the long run because most things going on will be "other people's problems" and other heroes, such as Thor will be around.
 
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radioxaxa said:
Is this quest going too be less bullshit with people like Amora and Lorelei? I hate how those two always managed too tap-dance they're way too success each time.
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I can't guarantee or deny anything, but any progress they make will be entirely based on the story elements and what occurs. While I probably won't utilize them as much if at all depending on the future, I won't purposefully cripple them when something that makes sense for them to do or gain is there.
 
DreamCWeaver said:
I can't guarantee or deny anything, but any progress they make will be entirely based on the story elements and what occurs. While I probably won't utilize them as much if at all depending on the future, I won't purposefully cripple them when something that makes sense for them to do or gain is there.
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Can it at least be more realistic than "everyones better than us just because we apparently made the wrong decision every time we were offered one"?
 
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