La Chanson de la Victoire (The Song of Victory): La Petite Arpenteuse (Non, SV, you are a General of France in the Napoleonic War!)
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Magoose
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THe vote is not open just yet.
As for, everything else? Well... Yeah, I've got nothing else to say, just yet.
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Eh, it's really just Batavia and Italy that are on fire. Paris is won, Spanish Canpaign is facing little resistance, and the battle on the Rhine was a victory.
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Looks at the Hati rumor mill.
I mean... kinda. At least on the continent?
Damn how the hell did Robespierre escape let alone find someone that can deal with his crazy crap? Man those people must really hate themselves I'd they want to deal with him.
Spain, Paris and our turning the Northern army are the real successes with Naples falling. So Davout goes to the Italy front to help deal with the Austrians while we go to the Netherlands front to help reinforce the troops there?
Spain, Paris and our turning the Northern army are the real successes with Naples falling. So Davout goes to the Italy front to help deal with the Austrians while we go to the Netherlands front to help reinforce the troops there?
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We'll we haven't really gotten any info from the west yet, except knowing all of Spain's stuff is under fire or on fire.
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Well, an alive Robespierre can be... as I have said multiple times, a Lennin to our Russia.
Good news, things are going well.
Bad news: Thigs are also going to shit.
On fire.
Alright, Jourdan is holding things down on the most critical front, which is the Rhine, which is good.
Paris falling that quickly is wonderful news, and from the lack of a casualties roll, I imagine Napoleon has copied our strategy of turning the Revolutionary Guard to his side. It would be ironic if both speeches happened the same day, and future historians will question whether it was all planned out, all the way back from Lyon.
Now while the Naples news might sound good, it really was expected, Ferdinand had no real army to stop us, so there was never a chance for losing, or even much casualties.
On to the bad, the Italian collapse is very concerning. If they had pushed all way to Genoa or further, Davout would have been cut off from Massena. Hopefully They will be able to establish a defensive line on the Po or something, so that Davout can salvage the situation. The Austrians only had 70k men, and have taken losses, so adding 50k more frenchmen, even if they aren't the most experienced, should be enough to turn the tide, unless another Austrian army reinforces.
I don't trust the Spanish front. At all. I feel like they are letting us overextend, in order to then cut off the army deep in Spanish territory, to then destroy it in its totality.
The Lowlands Front is obviously a disaster. It needs to be plugged, immediately. We cannot allow enemy armies to trample through the richest lands in the country, northeastern France, and cut off Jourdan from behind. His main advantage is holding the Rhine. If he has to defend attacks from behind, he'll lose his premier defensive position, allowing the German numbers to overwhelm him. That is bad enough to end the war, so it cannot be allowed to occur.
Luckily, with the civil war dealt with near bloodlessly, there's 3 additional armies worth of reserves that can be sent forth. There's Therese's army, the Army of the North, and the soldiers around Paris.
I'd suggest Therese's army and the army of the north to combine, and go push back on the Batavian front, and support Jourdan. Perhaps a 'greater Rhine command' managing 2 separate forces, one from the North Sea to cologne with our army, and Jourdan's army from cologne to Switzerland.
Then the Paris army can go support the Spanish front or Italian front, whichever needs it most at that moment.
Finally, shouldn't the results of the fall of Paris change our possible actions. Going towards Paris to help Napoleon is now moot, as he clearly didn't need the help. Meanwhile going to Lyon to the government and our family also is pointless, as they've all moved to the Paris now, presumably.
I'd like to be with Brian and Napoleon personally, while we heal, and to send the army north as previously stated. As injured as we are we can't risk being a liability on a major front, and there's no point forcing an injured commander to push themselves in a minor front.
Paris falling that quickly is wonderful news, and from the lack of a casualties roll, I imagine Napoleon has copied our strategy of turning the Revolutionary Guard to his side. It would be ironic if both speeches happened the same day, and future historians will question whether it was all planned out, all the way back from Lyon.
Now while the Naples news might sound good, it really was expected, Ferdinand had no real army to stop us, so there was never a chance for losing, or even much casualties.
On to the bad, the Italian collapse is very concerning. If they had pushed all way to Genoa or further, Davout would have been cut off from Massena. Hopefully They will be able to establish a defensive line on the Po or something, so that Davout can salvage the situation. The Austrians only had 70k men, and have taken losses, so adding 50k more frenchmen, even if they aren't the most experienced, should be enough to turn the tide, unless another Austrian army reinforces.
I don't trust the Spanish front. At all. I feel like they are letting us overextend, in order to then cut off the army deep in Spanish territory, to then destroy it in its totality.
The Lowlands Front is obviously a disaster. It needs to be plugged, immediately. We cannot allow enemy armies to trample through the richest lands in the country, northeastern France, and cut off Jourdan from behind. His main advantage is holding the Rhine. If he has to defend attacks from behind, he'll lose his premier defensive position, allowing the German numbers to overwhelm him. That is bad enough to end the war, so it cannot be allowed to occur.
Luckily, with the civil war dealt with near bloodlessly, there's 3 additional armies worth of reserves that can be sent forth. There's Therese's army, the Army of the North, and the soldiers around Paris.
I'd suggest Therese's army and the army of the north to combine, and go push back on the Batavian front, and support Jourdan. Perhaps a 'greater Rhine command' managing 2 separate forces, one from the North Sea to cologne with our army, and Jourdan's army from cologne to Switzerland.
Then the Paris army can go support the Spanish front or Italian front, whichever needs it most at that moment.
Finally, shouldn't the results of the fall of Paris change our possible actions. Going towards Paris to help Napoleon is now moot, as he clearly didn't need the help. Meanwhile going to Lyon to the government and our family also is pointless, as they've all moved to the Paris now, presumably.
I'd like to be with Brian and Napoleon personally, while we heal, and to send the army north as previously stated. As injured as we are we can't risk being a liability on a major front, and there's no point forcing an injured commander to push themselves in a minor front.
If anyone is willing to deal with his crazy ass. Like his supporters and whoever saved him might just consider him more trouble than he is worth. Most of Europe will at some point want him dead because he'll try spreading revolutionary ideals at whatever place he stays.
In the short term yes. The worry though is that France had much lower population growth in the 19th century compared to it's neighbors. In 1800 there were more frenchmen than germans, by 1900, there were 50% more germans.
Preventing our demographic stagnation is critical for the future of France, and I don't know what impact more women in the army is going to have.
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Uh, that's going to be a problem. Therese is wounded. That'd bring a -30 to military actions.
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And once again, the decision to give Robespierre a trial has proven itself to be a mistake that keeps on getting bigger and bigger... but what is done is done, and this is the last time I will talk about that decision. If we are ever lucky enough to catch him, we won't permit him any chance to snake his way out of punishment. He's either getting a rigged trial, in a similar (but not exact) manner as to Beria's "trial" in the Death of Stalin movie ("You are accused of using your position as Consul to plot against the French Republic… with the goal of forwarding the interests of foreign powers. You are also accused of treason and anti-French behavior. The court finds you guilty and sentences you to be guillotined.") or he's going straight to the guillotine with no trial to be had.
...WELL.
This is...not ideal, but not bad. Mostly good, really.
Davout can deal with the Situation in Italy. 50.000 more French Troops should be able to defeat the Austrians there.
Other Generals should lead the Army north to deal with the Situation in the Netherlands while we heal up in Paris.
Also, HOLY SHIT, the Kids are doing us proud! Sure, I'm worried about them, but their Rolls have been stellar.
...Robby escaping is really the only truly black mark on the Record. Him getting away is BAD News. However, it can also spell opportunity and be dealt with later.
Anyone up for pulling a Trotsky on him once we know where he is?
This is...not ideal, but not bad. Mostly good, really.
Davout can deal with the Situation in Italy. 50.000 more French Troops should be able to defeat the Austrians there.
Other Generals should lead the Army north to deal with the Situation in the Netherlands while we heal up in Paris.
Also, HOLY SHIT, the Kids are doing us proud! Sure, I'm worried about them, but their Rolls have been stellar.
...Robby escaping is really the only truly black mark on the Record. Him getting away is BAD News. However, it can also spell opportunity and be dealt with later.
Anyone up for pulling a Trotsky on him once we know where he is?
Also, I know what Omake I will write next: Downfall-Parody with Robespierre!
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Jourdan has always been a competent independent commander, and he has proven it again.
He may not have been much of a superior to us, but he did allow us the freedom to grow as a commander, which is something that most commanders would refuse to do.
Actually, the reason that there was no casulty roll, is because the city surrendered without a fight, with the news from the Army of the North being completely soul crushing to any morale that the defenders must have had.
The fact that they feared Napoleon and Brian were going to raze the city to the ground is something that many feared.
but they didn't.
Massena's situation is very precarious.
Lets just say that the only reason he didn't collapse is because he was rather brilliant in his retreat.
Possibly. But I think the lads are smart enough to get through whatever comes their way.
Once again, you may have a chance for moving quickly, if you go to the Rhine.
Being placed under his command is not the worst thing Napoleon can do with us, even as we are wounded and pregnant.
Going to Paris means we can strategize the moves for the future with Napoleon now, and that will now reflect that in the vote.
However, I must say this, you are wounded. so field command has become a rather dangerous thing.
See above.
Good thing that we've prevented many casualties and many of those kids will hopefully get some peace to have kids, and families. We may also see a longer peace between Europe if we manage to win this war, thanks to the other nations simply being to exhausted and broke to do anything.
Plus there is the Pregnant trait I have been hiding because you are not far enough along for it affect you just yet.
The thing is: We will no fucking idea where the man is... just yet.
You can try to launch a man hunt to kill that man but he might be far away by then.
Well I said that certain rolls would be fantastic, and steller.
Massena also can link up with Davout and maybe they can put their heads together and make something happen.
But who?
We may have generals, but not brilliant ones.
Louis' situation is actually very interesting. Expect a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
If you manage to do it properly, instead of allowing our enemies to keep him in exile, then send him back when it's most convient.
I would love that.
I'll do it soon.
Also, I think we should go to Paris and strategize things out with Nappy. Not to mention it may be an Opportunity to heal a bit.
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Not losing most a generation of men in endless wars might help.
SO if we can stop the endless waves of coalitions against France, we might be able to prevent the demographic crash.
Possibly also a change in inheritage laws might help.
Edit: the 2 fronts which needs reiforcement are the low countries and North Italy, with some reserves for Spain. The question is are we the best one to send to take commands, or are we better in a GHQ role while wounded and pregnant. I think the next plans needs to consider the possibility to separate Therese and her armies (ie Therese goes to Paris while the armies go to the front).
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Magoose
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Britian says fuck you and all who live with you, because...
This is unfortunately not going to happen. We've fucked Europe to the point where we either need to return to being Britain's Bitch, or we are the undisputed masters of Europe.
There is no inbetween.
The Problem is, we're still very much in a very interesting... transition period.
We need to figure out with Napoleon, what he wants to do.
War is easy.
Ruling... now that will define what may change.
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Ah, i see it's our biggest enemies, the Banker's...
About everything else, yea it's time for empire to blob and hopefully new concert of Europe to form with Russia and quite possibly coming to understanding with Prussia/Austria as well while keeping British out.
Fun thing is that even at the end of Everything European powers were willing to allow France to keep some of it's conquest but Napoleons return stoped that .
So yea I'll say it, I'm willing to allow Prussian Germany if they are willing to play ball with us.
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ThatGuyWithIdeas
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"THAT WAS AN ORDER! MARMONT'S ASSAULT WAS AN ORDER! Who do you think you are to dare disobey an order I give?! So this is what it has come to... The military has been lying to me! (...) Traitors! I've been betrayed and deceived from the very beginning! What a monstrous betrayal of the French people... But all those traitors will pay. They'll pay with their own blood. THEY SHALL DROWN IN THEIR OWN BLOOD!" - Robespierre, probably
Leaving aside Downfall... we should try and hunt down Robespierre, even if finding him is going to be difficult. We need to deny our enemies an asset they can use to formet dissent inside France. Though Robespierre's fanaticism may make him resistant to attempts at helping foreign powers against France, but only time can tell what He'll do.
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I say go to Paris. Drop us off. We're a liability with that wound and we've got plenty of capable subordinates. Augment the Army of the North with the troops around Paris and send them north to confront the Dutch. They are already forgiven but if they still seek redemption then they shall find it in victory. Our original army should continue to the Prussian front.
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Lets just say... Remember that trait in the beginning of the quest that basically could make us a follower of Napoleon?
Marmont got that... for us.
So... there is that?
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Anyone think of Therese and Napoleon whilst listening to this?