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[] Plan First Exhibit
-[] Relics
-[] Beasts
-[] Create Exhibit
-- [] Centerpiece: The Niflhundr
--- [] Docent would led tour of the ship itself with dramatic recitations at regular intervals.
-- [] Skeletons and taxidermy beasts exhibit describing the initial challenges of Lustria itself.
-- [] Relics exhibit describing the conflict with the lizardmen.

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Another question: would Aquire Relic cover acquiring/commissioning wax statues of Harkon?
 
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picklepikkl said:
I'm not sure how to interpret this: is this a GM hint "your first votes didn't have a lot of synergy with each other and making an exhibit now would be subpar," or would we have gotten something like this no matter what because making a complete exhibit off the back of two acquisition votes was never going to happen?
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There's that 'do you want to make something small now and probably have to rejig it later or do you want to wait and make something big later and not have to rejig it' tension that would have been there no matter what, but the middling synergy there means that putting them out as one exhibition is going to have more reason to either add more to it or break it apart to make different exhibitions in the future than if it was, like, a really nice sword plus a bunch of decent swords. For all that numbers and mechanics is how the quest is engaged with, the true success metric to keep in mind is Is This Museum Nice and once you've got your feet under you, you should no longer be content with 'here's the ship he came here with and here's the dinosaurs he fought after he got off the ship'.

picklepikkl said:
To be clear, our current audience is solely this?
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Yes.

thamuzz said:
@Boney
Another question: would Aquire Relic cover acquiring/commissioning wax statues of Harkon?
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Yes. Or Paht could make a death mask.
 
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Alternative plan.

[] Plan Prep Work
- [] Acquire Relic (Create a deathmask for Lutr to be used with posed skeletons in dioramas)
- [] Aquire Lizardmen Skeletons - Awakening
- [] Relics
 
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question, can we add a item aquired on that turn to an exhibit?

like if we got Lizardmen Relics and made the luthor vs the lizardmen exhibit could we add them in that turn or do they need to arrive first to be sorted out?
 
So, as an idea.
Put the Ship and the skellies as a small exhibit of where Luthor Harkon, Vampirate King, started.
Then keep adding to the exhibit as a one continuous time line of the rise of the Vampire Coast and Luthor Harkon into prominence.
Boat an skeletons now, get lizardman relics to add in, maybe something to do with pirates or navies from the old world.

Turn it over time into one giant diorama of Luthor Harkon and who he is The Vampirate, instead of that other looser whose name i can't remember*.


* genuinely can't remember, but having them go largely unnamed as "some pretender among many" might be appropriately snide anyway.
 
Rovos said:
question, can we add a item aquired on that turn to an exhibit?

like if we got Lizardmen Relics and made the luthor vs the lizardmen exhibit could we add them in that turn or do they need to arrive first to be sorted out?
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They need to arrive and get sorted out first. You're generally not going to know what you're going to get and what sort of exhibits they'd be suitable for. It'd be a pain to count on the incoming Lizardman relics for a Glorious Conquest of Huatl exhibit and end up with a bunch of peaceful cultural artefacts plus a little wheeled llama toy.
 
With that clarification I'm going to vote more along the lines of plan prep work so we can have something a bit more grand for our first major exhibit.
 
Boney said:
He spends several uninterrupted days telling you the long story of the original crew of Niflhundr, only shifting to walk inside the castle when the sun rises and back out to the longboat when it sets again
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I suppose when the crew have been up and about for sixteen centuries they accumulate quite a long set of sagas.

The smaller Lizardmen are able to tame these creatures, using them as
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What I'm hearing is that we needs some smaller Lizardmen skeletons if we want proper presentation.
 
Okay so this is what I have in mind.

[ ] Plan: Gathering Components
-[ ] Relics
-[ ] Acquire Relic (Lizardmen Bodies/Skeletons - Awakening)
-[ ] Acquire Relic (Wax Figures or Suitably preserved Corpses + Clothing to represent Harkoon and his initial crew - Awakening)

The basic idea is to make something that can work for the initial "Conquest of Lustria" exhibit. Would this work @Boney ?
 
More skeletons (dinosaurs and/or lizardmen), relics (lizardmen), and whatever is needed to build a diorama of Harkon and his crew (wax statues, skeletons, deathmasks, whatever).

Three acquisition actions.
Then make the exhibit with what we got.
Or take a second turn to acquite materials if something is too limited.

How long do we have until Lutr startes getting impatient(er than he already is)?
 
[ ] Create Exhibit (specify what)

I think we should go ahead and throw together an exhibit now, but not seek out new audiences yet. It'll be good to work the kinks out of actually running a museum, and pulling the components apart to rejigger the exhibit later is not something I'm sweating as far as "wasting" an action. On the other hand, no need to go out flogging it for a new audience before we have something really impressive.
Her's a tentative plan.

[] Plan Harkon's Path
-[] Acquire Relics From Princess Fallenstar - Lizardman relics
-[ ] Research Relic - Research relics of Harkon's activities in Norsca before he came to Lustria
-[ ] Create Exhibit - Exhibit showing Harkon's arrival in Lustria, skeletons of the beasts he fought, and the artifacts of the lizardmen he defeated. Leave space at the "beginning" of the exhibit so we can backfill with relics from further in Harkon's past as they are acquired.
 
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Sinsystems said:
Okay so this is what I have in mind.

[ ] Plan: Gathering Components
-[ ] Relics
-[ ] Acquire Relic (Lizardmen Bodies/Skeletons - Awakening)
-[ ] Acquire Relic (Wax Figures or Suitably preserved Corpses + Clothing to represent Harkoon and his initial crew - Awakening)

The basic idea is to make something that can work for the initial "Conquest of Lustria" exhibit. Would this work @Boney ?
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Yes. Awakening has enough of a history of clashing with Lizardmen that getting the corpses together should be doable.

Valmond said:
How long do we have until Lutr startes getting impatient(er than he already is)?
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As long as you're actually working towards something that could be broadly argued to be within the remit, it'd be fine.
 
For what it is worth, my opinion is that it's perfectly normal for a museum to make an exhibit with the pieces they have now, and then break it down and build new exhibits later when they have a wider selection of things to display.

As such, I'd like to maintain a middle ground between never taking an exhibit down due to sunk cost and never making an exhibit because we don't have 100% synergy.

I'd also like to build goodwill to obtain more crews/contacts, and we can't do that without something to show off.

As such, I propose starting immediately with a "Luthor conquers the Vampire Coast" exhibit, using both the ship and the skeletons. With the other two actions we can then acquire more things for display—more skeletons for the current exhibit (probably small ones to "ride" the big skeletons we have) or maybe the rare to eventually make a "beasts of Lustria" exhibit. Relics seems like a sensible follow up for our third action, but I would like to make an argument for gems—after all, what is a pirate without treasure? That could be an interesting part of the exhibit.

With that, we may be able to get a crew, and send them of to grab something. Whilst we wait for them to return, we can add to the Luthor exhibit, and when they get back we can re-evaluate what our exhibits are.
 
@Boney , can Paht use his knowledge to create authentic replicas of various artifacts he has seen in his life, particularly Nehekharan? And related, can he build an authentic Nehekharan Tomb as an exhibit Centerpiece using labor from Awakening?
 
personally i think 1 turn of prep to aquire more pieces for the exhibit is good then put it together next turn.

we want to open with a good piece to make an impression, just the ship and skeletons is a bit anemic for the opening
 
Boney said:
As long as you're actually working towards something that could be broadly argued to be within the remit, it'd be fine.
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Ok, with that, i think we should take turn, or two if necessary, to get the stuff we need for a proper starting exhibit.
We get only one "first exhibit", and i would like to make it a good one.
After we have on big exhibit, we can start gathering more stuff, more exhibits, and start calling looking for a wider audience to witness the glory of Luthor Harkon, and possibly find new students/interns.
 
Briefvoice said:
-[ ] Research Relic - Research relics of Harkon's activities in Norsca before he came to Lustria
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The research option is to find out more about something you already have.

Aule said:
@Boney , can Paht use his knowledge to create authentic replicas of various artifact he has seen in his life, particularly Nehekharan?
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What makes a replica authentic?

Aule said:
And related, can he build an authentic Nehekharan Yomb as an exhibit Centerpiece using labor from Awakening?
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No, he'd need a Necrotect.
 
Briefvoice said:
[ ] Create Exhibit (specify what)

I think we should go ahead and throw together an exhibit now, but not seek out new audiences yet. It'll be good to work the kinks out of actually running a museum, and pulling the components apart to rejigger the exhibit later is not something I'm sweating as far as "wasting" an action. On the other hand, no need to go out flogging it for a new audience before we have something really impressive.
Her's a tentative plan.

[] Plan Harkon's Path
-[] Acquire Relics From Princess Fallenstar - Lizardman relics
-[ ] Research Relic - Research relics of Harkon's activities in Norsca before he came to Lustria
-[ ] Create Exhibit - Exhibit showing Harkon's arrival in Lustria, skeletons of the beasts he fought, and the artifacts of the lizardmen he defeated. Leave space at the "beginning" of the exhibit so we can backfill with relics from further in Harkon's past as they are acquired.
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We can't use acquisitions the same turn we get them because they need to be cataloged as per:

Boney said:
They need to arrive and get sorted out first. You're generally not going to know what you're going to get and what sort of exhibits they'd be suitable for. It'd be a pain to count on the incoming Lizardman relics for a Glorious Conquest of Huatl exhibit and end up with a bunch of peaceful cultural artefacts plus a little wheeled llama toy.
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That basically nixes my first exhibit plan as well.
 
I'm personally wary of making a wax Luthor Harkon... Because we really don't know what Luthor will see it first and how they will react to it... Maybe commission a portrait of the initial crew and one of the captain itself?
 
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