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The option has been around for a while, and in that time it really grew on people.
It Belongs to a Museum
- Thread starter Boney
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- Fantasy
Well, besides the enduring nostalgia of almost having taken them several times for our very first exhibit, they're a very effective backdrop and reinforcement of core themes for one of our current exhibits! That makes them effective in the context of just about any plan - if we decide to pull the Siren-Wail, the sea beasts, the palanquin or anything else away from Dangers of Lustria to put in another exhibit, we can be confident that plants showcasing another dimension to the horrors of the continent will be available to fill the void. (There's also the possibility that some of them are magical, which carries interest for a theoretical Lustrian Magic exhibit specifically.)
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Lustria/Citadel of Dusk/potentially Lustrian Magic exhibits want them. Otherwise, no.
I mean some of them naturally make anti-daemon poisons, which is cool.
Until we get a botanist I am not super interested in plants. I feel we won't know much about them with our current staff and we don't know how to care for them that well. Unless it's been clarified I also feel it's possible that they are going to be more cuttings, seeds, and preserved plants than living without someone to grow and care for them. Especially the exotic ones. Which we may be able to offload in our elf apprentice I suppose.
daedalus725
Kell of Kells, godking of Planet X
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I enjoy natural history
Good reasons to grab em
i like flowers irl, i haven't seen a reason to get them in the museum yet tho.
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Acquire Relics: Beasts specifies that they'd be skeletons without an expert, but I've not seen anything saying we'd need a subject expert to keep plants alive. I feel that if it was just seeds and dried-and-pressed cuttings, it would be presented that way in the vote option.
If we vote for Plants we get plants.
If a voter doesn't want plants, then they shouldn't vote for Plants, but I don't think there's reason to believe the option gives less than it says it does.
Edit: We are also acquiring them directly from a subject expert who grows them himself (Telsomar); I'd expect that while a resident alchemist or herbalist will provide greater detail on the practical use of the plants, and a Lustrian expert might provide more local knowledge, we can get at least a basic botanical description of the items we're buying from the person who grew them.
If we vote for Plants we get plants.
If a voter doesn't want plants, then they shouldn't vote for Plants, but I don't think there's reason to believe the option gives less than it says it does.
Edit: We are also acquiring them directly from a subject expert who grows them himself (Telsomar); I'd expect that while a resident alchemist or herbalist will provide greater detail on the practical use of the plants, and a Lustrian expert might provide more local knowledge, we can get at least a basic botanical description of the items we're buying from the person who grew them.
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Chimeraguard
We do deserve to exist.
I'm not disinterested in plants and somewhat curious in seeing what we can do with them (any dangerous ones among them already have an exhibit waiting for them), but my Kraken Sea and the Tide of Skjold exhibit is one that I've been trying to get accepted for a few turns now, and we've just gotten the perfect Centerpiece for it.
Plants feels like something to do after we set up our next exhibit, as a way of exploring what other options we can take future exhibits in.
Plants feels like something to do after we set up our next exhibit, as a way of exploring what other options we can take future exhibits in.
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The best time to add plants to our museum was seven years ago. The second best time is now. 
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On the one hand, that's a lot of reptile relics that we could make better placards for. On the other, none of our audiences are likely to care about Reptile Facts.
Learn (Lizardmen) I mostly wanted for out-of-universe reasons because having Pahtsekhen describe Slann as "some kind of magical frog" in internal monologue would be physically painful to read. I'm less personally bothered if he mislabels a red-necked newt as a red-spotted newt.
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The trick here is that the reward we get for learning more about a relic is new tags added to the relic. This makes it hard to know just how valuable it'll be to investigate them. So when, for example, the lizard in question has special magical properties, we need to learn more about it to discover those properties and be rewarded for explaining them. This isn't even a hypothetical; two of the lizard skeletons we have on display have a magical understanding gap (specifically Salamanders and Cold Ones), so there's definitely a couple instances of secretly magical bones.
Open question as to whether or not that particular fruit is hanging low enough to be worth plucking right this instant, of course.
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Unintended, and now corrected to Death Magic. A greater grasp of Death Magic would reveal more about the Siren-Wail.
So far nine of the names and epithets have been given. Your exhibits lay out the hard details of the Veilwalker-Reaver-Bloody-Sorcerer succession, and it's likely that if you continue acquiring Awakening-related relics that'll expand to cover most of them.
No, they can only be on one expedition at a time.
Vampire Hunter relics would have the 'Vampire' and 'Hunter' tags, and they'd count for Luthor Harkon's affinity. The Hunter tag would also be shared with relics from Witch Hunters, which wouldn't, and by miscellaneous gribbly and/or heresy hunters like the Ghost Striders, Longshanks, and Stormguard.
What he knows is in the exhibits. What he suspects is up to the thread to piece together.
Most of the people that trade with the Tide are doing so primarily because they don't have the military strength to prevent them from landing, rather than because they're shady enough to normally do business with skeletons. For more significant ports, they could trade in any of the human New World colonies, who don't want to pick fights with the Vampire Coast in general, or in Sartosa or Uzkulak or Pigbarter. But it probably won't go well to send them to Lothern or Marienburg or Erengrad or the like.
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Putting the Pirate King's Pieces Together
A Listing of Luthor Harkon's Shards,
and the Artifacts and Leads Pertaining to Them
A Listing of Luthor Harkon's Shards,
and the Artifacts and Leads Pertaining to Them
Lutr of the Harkoni
Artifacts
- None
Leads
- Making another Death Mask?
Lutr the Harbourmaster
Artifacts
- None
Leads
- Perhaps another Death Mask
Luther the Veilwalker
Artifacts
- The Niflhundr, who had acquired him when he had to flee the Empire
Leads
- Maaaaaaaaaaask
- Syreens/Banshees?
Haakon the Reaver
Artifacts
- The Niflhundr as the Dread Abyssal, with which our Dread Patron did much reaving
Leads
- Gotta Mask Them All
Haakon the Bloody*
Artifacts
- Niflhundr, now Dread Abyssal, his ship's original form
- Fire Serpent Fortress, his first fortress
- Death Mask of Haakon the Bloody, his visage bearing numerous symbols significant to this facet of our Dread Patron
Leads
- Nakai the Wanderer, who slew the Chaos Captain of the crew Haakon would then take over, and who has a flying temple
Luthor Harkon the Sorceror
Artifacts
- The Siren-Wail of the Serpent Islands, a self-perpetuating spell of Shyish that draws any on - or under - the seas to it. It's been toned down in favor of the more desirable lure of lucre.
Leads
- New Huatl, a new Temple-City being built by the Lizardmen vaguely near Awakening. Is currently our best bet to learn about the original Huatl Luthor Harkon conquered, since it had long been dismantled to build Deliverance.
- Making another Death Mask?
Luthor Harkon the Commodore
Artifacts
- None
Leads
- Mask of Death?
Luthor Harkon the Many
Artifacts
- I think the Museum is his artifact
Leads
- Don't even think about prodding this topic until we can devise a way to put a positive spin on it
- But if one really wants to, one could perhaps make a Death Mask incorporating elements of all the previous Masks...
*Has been Investigated
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Chimeraguard
We do deserve to exist.
There's also a Haakon the Reaver who seems to preceed Haakon the Bloody.
'The Bloody' seems to be the Haakon during his early days in Lustria, whereas 'The Reaver' was after he joined the Norscans but before the crash on Lustria.
I think anyway. I might have that wrong, but that would fit in with how our investigation into "Haakon the Bloody" got us only things in Lustria itself rather than anything Norscan.
'The Bloody' seems to be the Haakon during his early days in Lustria, whereas 'The Reaver' was after he joined the Norscans but before the crash on Lustria.
I think anyway. I might have that wrong, but that would fit in with how our investigation into "Haakon the Bloody" got us only things in Lustria itself rather than anything Norscan.
I only recall 6 of Luthor's names/titles coming up before Paht IC, anyone know what the other three were?
Undead-Spaceman
Skeleton Supreme
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I get that Lustrian Plants seem kinda boring but I also thought the Runestone would just be a boulder with runes on it.
There can be hidden surprises is all I'm saying.
There can be hidden surprises is all I'm saying.
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I'd kind of assumed the Harbourmaster was Lutr of the Harkoni, but it's possible it's a separate identity.
Thank you; I don't think Paht has heard of Lutr the Abyssal just yet, sadly, since it only came up in character creation. Paht's definitely heard of the Harbourmaster though, either becaus it was his position in Nehekhara or was the Lutr Lutr was referring to when he was talking of his "predecessor" building the docks Paht was looking upon in the first year.
Also thank you for the threadmark @Boney , I am honored.
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If "The Pirate King Luthor" is neither the Commodore nor a general title for the whole, that's the ninth revealed, but I kinda feel it's one of the two.
I also feel that "The Pirate King" is a more general title for Luthor.
Unrelated to that, but @Boney is it Luthor the Sorceror or Luther the Sorceror? I've seen it spelled both ways by you in-quest and I am wondering which is the most correct one.
Luther was the name he used in the Empire, as Luther the Veilwalker. The rest of the time it's Lutr or Luthor, so it's Luthor Harkon the Sorcerer.
I now must apologize, for upon checking you never did write "Luther Harkon the Sorceror." I must have conflated the Veilwalker's and the Sorceror's first names in my memory. Sorry.
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Lutr of the Harkoni seems to be when he was of the Harkoni, before he'd been recruited into the Lahmian Auxiliaries.