Yeah, but High Elves have High Magic, which is one of the few things that can clean that sort of things, I also specified on using it to raise the enemies dead, so it's their problem as well lol
It Belongs to a Museum
- Thread starter Boney
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I think we established, best was qualified as we're already aware that the Dark Elves are best, and Morathi is the best of the Dark Elves, therefore whatever she does is the best.
Proof by refusal to question my priors.
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Hey now, torturing all their secrets out of three druchii is just a particularly slow afternoon for Morathi!
She'll replicate that part in a heartbeat and with the principle proven the rest of it is really just unnecessary legwork if you think about it.
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
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I'd actually argue the Great Ritual is one of Nagash's easier to replicate feats. The main bottleneck would be the huge amounts of warp stone he used as fuel, but rituals in general allow you to leverage resources instead of personal power.
As for who's done more dark magic, Morathi has had a bunch of time while Nagash has been busy being dead or not born yet, so it's hard to say 🤷♂️
There's not a lot of warships that can be picked up by just their crew and carried multiple kilometers. That trick is how Vikings got from the Baltic to the Black Sea.
It's an Arabyan (and Arabic) name that sounds very close to his Nehekharan one while meaning something along the lines of 'wonderful and intelligent', which is the sort of name he'd pick out for himself.
It's based on the backstory of Abdul ben Raschid, author of the Book of the Dead, which is something of an epitaph to all that Nehekhara was and is and a grim warning about what it produced. Mannfred von Carstein, not typically the kindest of book reviewers, described him as a visionary.
Both are outside of the traditional borders of Nehekhara, so they can be considered part of the Great Nehekharan Empire to be reconquered eventually rather than being part of the great and ancient city-states of Nehekhara proper. Bel-Aliad was destroyed shortly after the Great Ritual and both Nehekhara and Araby have tried to resettle it a few times. Ka-Sabar seems to have been destroyed by Lizardmen and resettled by desert nomads.
Correct. And you've got the overlapping problems that if you send a ship back to the region it came from its original owners will find out and cause a ruckus with whoever the new owners are, and if you send it to any other region they're not going to pay anywhere near full price because they'd basically have to relearn seamanship while figuring out how to work this weird-ass foreign ship. Perhaps with a great deal of time and effort you might be able to find a way to overcome all of that and extract some sort of price from these second-hand ships, but you could instead put that time and effort into capturing another ship and let the floating hulks tangled in seaweed add to the immaculate aesthetic of the Vampire Coast.
Sure they have it, but we do not know how the efficiencies look like there, how many hours of Arch-mage time would it take to fix. Princess Fallenstar certainly has all of no archmages.
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
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The Lore of Using Dhar To Blow Shit Up is more directly destructive than the Lore of Using Shyish And Dhar To Make Dead People Move yes.
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He's my favourite BookToker.
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Normal foundational piracy is about making money fast at the lowest risk possible and selling ships demands way to much time, effort and risk to ever be worth anything.
Also i doubt privateering is a thing in this universe so you don't even have that legal nonsense to maneuver.
Also i doubt privateering is a thing in this universe so you don't even have that legal nonsense to maneuver.
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- Finland
Lot of piracy is just trying to survive, and the best tool you have is a ship you have very little means to properly upkeep, so among the most priced loot suddenly become basic repair supplies, and carpenters, only slightly over taken by medical supplies and doctors.
Luthor Harkon, the visionary that he is, has solved these two problems, allowing his crews to focus on more traditionally valued commodities.
Luthor Harkon, the visionary that he is, has solved these two problems, allowing his crews to focus on more traditionally valued commodities.
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consequences
Not A Nice Person At All
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Shipping Wars.
(Not intended as a mean spirited poke at the typo, just too delicious to me to leave hanging)
This has already been addressed, but it actually speaks to deeply laid logistical planning to have your ship capable of doing what you need it to do, but also carryable by manpower on top of the loot from your hopefully successful raid, or carryable by not nearly as many able bodied warriors if your raid went to Hel. Though granted you should hopefully have more thralls on hand to generally assist in the carrying after said successful raid.
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- Australia
I suppose our main use case for portaging would be if we could get our boys to cross the Isthmus of Lustria, and bring us back some sea monster skeletons from the Boiling Sea on the other side.
Seems a big ask, but think of how impressed everyone would be!
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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- Tempe, AZ
[X] [LEVER] Grief
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
I'm sure you could make an argument about how Necromancy would be a great boon to the forces of Ulthuan, but I don't think that the Asur are particularly pragmatic, as far as that goes.
A large part of what it means to be Asur is defined as definitely not being the Druchii. And Dark Magic is of the Druchii.
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One more comment on the 'ships left sleeping along the sargassum shores of Awakening' thing; if Luthor ever feels he needs to do an imperialism launch a punitive expedition somewhere kinda inland, he can use them as troop transports! (At least after a bit of repairs and adjusting on a crew-level basis).
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
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I imagine prize ships are much less common in general. Unlike IRL where pretty much all of Europe was building more-or-less the same ships by the 1600s or so every nation in Warhammer has a deeply different naval design philosophy and consequently much less use for each others vessels.
That said I imagine that pirates do still take whole ships to use as their own because it's kind of hard for pirates to build their own.
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- Germany
Well, for Dhar magic that isn't even true.
There have been Dhar-based mages for much longer than the Dark Elves have been around.
Demons and Firmir and probably Beastmen too.
The Delves just tried to rebrand the whole thing under their own name, and some people are falling for it.
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
On the True Dhar vs Necromancy debate. The lore of dark magic has some truly disgusting destructive feats, but... As far as force multipliers go it's very difficult to beat being able to pull an army out of ones ass. And I personally don't think True Dhar being able to blow stuff up better manages to overcome that specific gimmick of necromancy.
By Settra's Shrivelled Balls, we're going to be doing the Mortuary Cult all over agan, aren't we?
consequences
Not A Nice Person At All
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A short sighted expeditionary focused nation might not care about shitting where they don't eat, but presumably the high elves can think long term enough to not want to empower the next assholes they may be fighting.
Unless the thing you blow up is the necromancer. That is the thing with the Lore of Necromancy, it comes with the built in issue of the army only being as strong as the leader and in a battle of who can kill one guy better the Lore of Dark Magic generally wins
On a related note, I do find it appropriate that the two approaches to Dhar that could be most easily described as harnessing raw, unfiltered magical might - the Druchii and the Tzeentchian - have spells (at least on the tabletop) that are almost all variations on 'point at thing and thing dies'. It's almost like just grabbing and directing as much power as you can without significant creative interpretation or modification on your own part is actually quite inflexible and limited as a method for influencing the world around you!
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That is to say, we'd preserve him really damn well and put him in a fancy tomb until we can figure out the Mortuary Cult's primary goal for the past several millenia.
EDIT: Also, as someone already said, Luthor already backs us for prestige, so doing the samw for her would be stepping on his toes.
The wisest options would be Wealth or Power, I think. The former is low risk and gets results and the latter has a chance to make her a More useful contact.
But, our character's backstory has him making dumb decitions... And it would be funny... So, Mortuary Cult 2.0 it is!
[X] [ACQUIRE] The Dread Abyssal
[X] [LEVER] Grief
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Okay, this guy knows his marketing.
I would not want to buy a car from Boney. I'd get absolutely bamboozled.
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Rationality is for people who lack the Vision to run a museum for a Vampire Pirate Emperor.
The sort of boring people who stay in Nehekhara un-exiled un-living boring un-lives never achieving anything of note.