I'm going to put off the PHO interlude for the moment because I feel it'd be very involved. Is anyone willing to help out determining fair xp rates that still encourage people to make use of the Omake bonuses? If so, I'll go ahead and post up the 2.1 voting options.
They're fine I think. For me at least it's more of an issue of not enough material to go off of so far. The point of divergence hasn't really had enough time for this Taylor to distinguish herself from baseline so there's not much for me to work with.
 
Odds are several people could have made an omake based off of the Charm Builds we had planned. They probably just didn't want to make people feel disappointed if a good omake for an unpopular build lost. Maybe come up with some way of rewarding well thought out and inventive power usage in omakes as a test-bed for good stunts. (or just ignore this idea because I've never written an omake or helped build a system for rewarding them)
 
Odds are several people could have made an omake based off of the Charm Builds we had planned. They probably just didn't want to make people feel disappointed if a good omake for an unpopular build lost. Maybe come up with some way of rewarding well thought out and inventive power usage in omakes as a test-bed for good stunts. (or just ignore this idea because I've never written an omake or helped build a system for rewarding them)

Yep! Each full-length omake is half to just over a third of the xp cost of a new charm, after all.

They're fine I think. For me at least it's more of an issue of not enough material to go off of so far. The point of divergence hasn't really had enough time for this Taylor to distinguish herself from baseline so there's not much for me to work with.
Fair, and a very valid reason.
 
A few quests have a moratorium of a few hours of discussion before voting that might help with discussion of options.
 
pre-Arc 2 vote
A few quests have a moratorium of a few hours of discussion before voting that might help with discussion of options.
I think I'm gonna start doing that for any and all build votes. Among other things.


ooo

2.1 Agenda
Pick 4

[ ]See if you can't get Dad released and help him get back on his feet

[ ]Speak with Armsmaster

[ ]Speak with one of the Dallons
-Stunt determines individual, Victoria, Amy, or Carol.
-Second stunt determines intended direction of conversation.

[ ]Go in to register as a hero and join the Wards

[ ]Go in and register as an independent hero.

[ ]Don't register yet.

[ ]Experiment to learn what your powers can do.
-Stunt determines nature of experimentation

[ ]Submit to PRT Powers testing to learn what your powers can do.

[ ]Do Cape research on PHO and the Parahumans Wiki

[ ]Write In
-Stunt determines nature of action.
 
Omake - The Silver Spider

Three week. That's how long it took me to find out Coil's secret identity. I would have gone after him eventually, and I wouldn't have done it to his CID, but after the stuff Lisa told me about, I didn't honestly care.

<You know, with all the trouble you're going to to help Tattletale out, one might almost think...>

'I. Am not. Gay.' I hissed back. Joyous Uncertainty's habit of trying to hook me up with various people of the feminine persuasion had gotten old a long time ago.

<If you say so.>

When I first got Quicksilver Sap Transfusion, I never imagined I would use it. The idea of using a highly lethal poison was so anathema to me that I almost didn't take the charm in the first place. It was only because that in order to get access to improved durability and regeneration that I even considered it. What tipped the decision for me was that it gave me access to the ability to give my regenerative abilities to other. I had both met and worked with most of the heroes in Brockton Bay, but what Panacea did for my dad while I was in the chrysalis made the biggest difference of all. I couldn't heal people on the scale she did; my healing worked a lot slower than hers did and it literally had to pay for it in blood, but if I could do for just one person what she had done for me, then it was worth it. Today, however, I was going to be using that charm for its original purpose.

The problem with trying to go after Coil was that he was practically untouchable. With his power to maintain two timelines, if something went wrong in one timeline, then he would just drop it and keep the other, and he had the incredibly annoying habit of keeping up 'safe' timelines. This meant that going after him with conventional means was basically impossible. In order to beat him, I had to hit him with something that could affect both of his timelines, and the only way to guarantee I could do that was to hit him before he split his timelines, but he would only keep the timeline I had hit him in if he didn't know it. Basically, I had to kill him far in advance of his body actually dropping dead. That left me with one option: poison.

Coil was paranoid. This was a well understood fact by anyone who bother to take a look at the man's actions. He had a pretty extensive home security system, but he never expected to be going up against both myself and Tattletale. Besides, I made is a habit not to advertise the full extent of my powers. Impulse Infusion Pnuematics is great for defeating security systems. That combined with the information Tattletale got for me meant I could buy myself a 15 minute loop of all clear. After doing so, I walk up to the front door (in disguise, of course), slid the bump-key into the lock, and let myself in to Thomas Calvert's humble abode.

I walked down the front hall and through the first door on the left, into the kitchen. Lisa had it on good authority that Calvert had the same thing for breakfast every morning. If he had a pattern, it would be easier for him to notice any discrepancies. It also made him predictable. I opened the fridge and poured the vial of blood I had in my jacket pocket into the already open carton of orange juice. If Coil had breakfast at home any time in the next couple of days, he was a goner. It would also take several days to take effect, so unless he kept his timelines split for several days at a time, which Lisa assured me he simply never did, then he was already dead.

As I left the house and dropped my disguise, I stated my long, pre-planned walk to the rehab clinic. I knew that the healing effects of my blood could clear out poisons, but I wanted to make sure that it would work on addictive drugs.

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So, this is obviously a 'what if' story, based on what Taylor could do with Szoreny Charms. Please excuse me if I did impossible things with the charms, I don't have any experience with Exalted.
 
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[ ]See if you can't get Dad released and help him get back on his feet
Seems like a nobrainer. We've put Danny first for basically the whole quest, I see no reason to stop now.

[ ]Speak with Armsmaster
Armsmaster on the road to Defiant is a legitimately interesting butterfly that I'd like to see more of.

[ ]Do Cape research on PHO and the Parahumans Wiki
Seems like a good fit. Obvious stunt is to do some research on the smaller groups to see if we can't find some information about the girl that helped us.

I have no opinion on a 4th option at this time. I'd prefer to go the Danny + Dockworkers route since I've never seen that done, but that requires several successive votes and I've learned not to trust people to hold to long term plans.
 
Seems like a nobrainer. We've put Danny first for basically the whole quest, I see no reason to stop now.


Armsmaster on the road to Defiant is a legitimately interesting butterfly that I'd like to see more of.


Seems like a good fit. Obvious stunt is to do some research on the smaller groups to see if we can't find some information about the girl that helped us.

I have no opinion on a 4th option at this time. I'd prefer to go the Danny + Dockworkers route since I've never seen that done, but that requires several successive votes and I've learned not to trust people to hold to long term plans.
Magical Girl Escalation Taylor has her being at minimum loosely affiliated with them if you want that route.
 
Omake - The Silver Spider

Three week. That's how long it took me to find out Coil's secret identity. I would have gone after him eventually, and I wouldn't have done it to his CID, but after the stuff Lisa told me about, I didn't honestly care.

<You know, with all the trouble you're going to to help Tattletale out, one might almost think...>

'I. Am not. Gay.' I hissed back. Joyous Uncertainty's habit of trying to hook me up with various people of the feminine persuasion had gotten old a long time ago.

<If you say so.>

When I first got Quicksilver Sap Transfusion, I never imagined I would use it. The idea of using a highly lethal poison was so anathema to me that I almost didn't take the charm in the first place. It was only because that in order to get access to improved durability and regeneration that I even considered it. What tipped the decision for me was that it gave me access to the ability to give my regenerative abilities to other. I had both met and worked with most of the heroes in Brockton Bay, but what Panacea did for my dad while I was in the chrysalis made the biggest difference of all. I couldn't heal people on the scale she did; my healing worked a lot slower than hers did and it literally had to pay for it in blood, but if I could do for just one person what she had done for me, then it was worth it. Today, however, I was going to be using that charm for its original purpose.

The problem with trying to go after Coil was that he was practically untouchable. With his power to maintain two timelines, if something went wrong in one timeline, then he would just drop it and keep the other, and he had the incredibly annoying habit of keeping up 'safe' timelines. This meant that going after him with conventional means was basically impossible. In order to beat him, I had to hit him with something that could affect both of his timelines, and the only way to guarantee I could do that was to hit him before he split his timelines, but he would only keep the timeline I had hit him in if he didn't know it. Basically, I had to kill him far in advance of his body actually dropping dead. That left me with one option: poison.

Coil was paranoid. This was a well understood fact by anyone who bother to take a look at the man's actions. He had a pretty extensive home security system, but he never expected to be going up against both myself and Tattletale. Besides, I made is a habit not to advertise the full extent of my powers. Impulse Infusion Pnuematics is great for defeating security systems. That combined with the information Tattletale got for me meant I could buy myself a 15 minute loop of all clear. After doing so, I walk up to the front door (in disguise, of course), slid the bump-key into the lock, and let myself in to Thomas Calvert's humble abode.

I walked down the front hall and through the first door on the left, into the kitchen. Lisa had it on good authority that Calvert had the same thing for breakfast every morning. If he had a pattern, it would be easier for him to notice any discrepancies. It also made him predictable. I opened the fridge and poured the vial of blood I had in my jacket pocket into the already open carton of orange juice. If Coil had breakfast at home any time in the next couple of days, he was a goner. It would also take several days to take effect, so unless he kept his timelines split for several days at a time, which Lisa assured me he simply never did, then he was already dead.

As I left the house and dropped my disguise, I stated my long, pre-planned walk to the rehab clinic. I knew that the healing effects of my blood could clear out poisons, but I wanted to make sure that it would work on addictive drugs.

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So, this is obviously a 'what if' story, based on what Taylor could do with Szoreny Charms. Please excuse me if I did impossible things with the charms, I don't have any experience with Exalted.

+2xp for Omake!
 
[X]See if you can't get dad released and help him get back on his feet
[X]Don't register yet
[X]Experiment to learn what your powers can do
-Stunt: Joyous Uncertainty said that you still have your parahuman power try and seperate whatever powers you're getting from your exaltation from what you already have, then afterwards ask Joyous Uncertainty if he can give you a general idea of what "Charms" you have, wouldn't want to accidentally blow up a building.
[X]Do Cape research on PHO and the Parahumans Wiki


Figured we wouldn't want to talk to Armsmaster without talking to the Dallons. We still don't know what our parahuman power is. and we haven't come to a decision as to who we should overtly work with or if we should be a free agent.
 
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What do we want to do in terms of civilian life? Do we want to try to do something about school? Do we want to sue them? Is the government going to try to make us go to school? These may not be directly related to jeroing, but they are still important questions.

Also, I am all for experimenting with our powers on our own. Admittedly, part of that is meta knowledge I have a hard time getting over, but it is very much in-character based on Taylor's implicit distrust of authority and her general discomfort and uneasiness about the whole exaltation thing could easily lead her to turtle up for a while until she becomes a little more comfortable with the whole situation.
 
[ ]Speak with one of the Dallons
-Victoria and/or Amy
-Dig yourself deeper.



Because Taylor isn't nearly mortified enough.
 
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A quick question. if we use adorjan's thief charm on someone who belongs to multiple people which Intimacy will we get? if we were to for example steal Amy from the Dallons would she lust after or be terrified of disappointing us, depending on the answer we may want to steal TattleTale from Grue rather than Coil if we don't want her secretly trying to kill us.

Edit: I may change one of my votes to the Dallons if someone can come up with an amusing enough lesbian Faux Pas that would hopefully end in them propositioning us a few votes down the line
 
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[ ]See if you can't get Dad released and help him get back on his feet
Definitely needs to be done since there is nothing physically wrong with him now.
[ ]Speak with Armsmaster

This seems like something we would want to do first to try to keep our identity hidden now that we can actually change how we look.
[ ]Speak with one of the Dallons
-Stunt determines individual, Victoria, Amy, or Carol.
-Second stunt determines intended direction of conversation.

Time for a hat trick and embarass ourself with Carol too?

[ ]Go in to register as a hero and join the Wards
[ ]Go in and register as an independent hero.
[ ]Don't register yet.

Out of these three it seems like a bad idea to not join a group as our identity is shot right now.

OOC we really should join a group fairly fast because of Coil.Actually I think I remember reading that WoG that Coil's power was really precog and didn't we have something to help against that? I plan on looking back through to check that.

[ ]Experiment to learn what your powers can do.
-Stunt determines nature of experimentation

seems like something we should do just to know what we can do and we can probably ask Joyous Uncertainty for information about.
[ ]Submit to PRT Powers testing to learn what your powers can do.

This seems really quick to do this especially since we can't really sign anything with Danny at the hospital right now.
[ ]Do Cape research on PHO and the Parahumans Wiki

While we should do this it seems like right now she wouldn't rushing to do this with the fact that she is probably going to be unmasked, her dad is in the hospital, and she doesn't even know what all she can do.
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[ ]Speak with one of the Dallons
-Victoria and/or Amy
-Dig yourself deeper.



Because Taylor isn't nearly mortified enough.

Well there is always laserdream or shielder. Well that or go for Carol if you want to go for the same family.....
 
A quick question. if we use adorjan's thief charm on someone who belongs to multiple people which Intimacy will we get? if we were to for example steal Amy from the Dallons would she lust after or be terrified of disappointing us, depending on the answer we may want to steal TattleTale from Grue rather than Coil if we don't want her secretly trying to kill us.

Edit: I may change one of my votes to the Dallons if someone can come up with an amusing enough lesbian Faux Pas that would hopefully end in them propositioning us a few votes down the line
I think I clarified this before, but it doesn't steal the intimacy. It terminates the prior one. So in the example of stealing Lisa from Coil, she'd get over him. In the instance of stealing Amy as our sister now, she'd get over Vicky. Or rather, she'd fall out of love with her. Though I remember reading somewhere that apparently her whole sense of her own sexuality was slanted by puberty happening around VIcky's persistent Master after-effects? But I might be wrong or that might be fanon. Or it might've been a simple psychological addiction that had Gallant and Amy so wrapped around Vicky's finger, rather than subtle and insidious brain damage.

If the former, then it'd take a healing charm that could remove (either Crippling or Sickness effects, whichever that fell under) the damage done as well as Theft as Release. Or the charm that makes them fall in love with you...and no longer feel any sort of love for anyone else. If the latter, then Theft as Release would cover it, so long as she stayed away from Vicky's mind whammy in the long-term. Or managed to gain enlightened Essence to resist the effect somehow.
 
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[X]Experiment to learn what your powers can do.
-[X] Stunt: Closing her eyes, Taylor focuses her attention on her seat, tracing the flow of energy through her extrasensory perception, and further. The stone bench beneath her feels distinctly odd through this lens, as she passes over it's texture, tiny pockets of air buried in the faux stone, the coat of grime, rain, piss and puke invisible upon it's surface, the cheap concrete at it's core, and then passing on upwards to feel through her own body, to know this form.

We need to learn IC what charms we have, so that we can have Taylor make informed decisions. I put this before getting Danny released because I want to analyze him medically for the stunt and she needs to know what she can do there first.

We also don't know anything about the QA power. Probably should look at that.

Current list of powers to learn about(excluding Excellencies, which would probably be figured out along the way by Coadjutor exposition):
-Queen Administrator shard - We didn't notice any insects, but we also didn't get to the phase where Taylor completely lost her shit from the bug senses and immediately second triggered. Could be the base bug control power, could be something else entirely, but it's either a Master power that grants us something else's unfamiliar senses(Countless bizzare and frightful creatures) or a Thinker power for the same.
-Hardened Devil Body - Not testable. We're just extra durable.
-By Pain Reforged - Ignores pain from blunt damage. Not really testable unless we are into self harm.
-Factual Determination Analysis - We already know this.
-Invasive Exteroception Technique - We already know the basic use, but have thus far avoided using the detailed scan much.
--Essence-Dissecting Touch - No Essence to dissect except our own, for now.
--Omnidirectional Apprehension Scan - High detail medical assessment of biological bodies and structural analysis for inanimate objects. We need this to see whether he SHOULD be released(Panacea healed him so he really should be fine physically).
-Mind-Hand Manipulation - Telekinetic crafting enhancer. Extremely useful, but not urgent on it's own other than raw lifting capacity unless we want to immediately make a costume and hit the streets.
--Utility-Engine Cabochon - Requires anima flare, which attracts attention. Makes giant floaty crystal blocks.
--Crystal-Fire Barrier Defence - Makes giant floaty crystal shields. Fundamental defense(and offense, as due to the rules, Thunderbolt Shields are passable blunt instruments) element at present. Required if we intend to go heroing immediately.
-Procrustean Chasity Coherence - Only valid targets for testing are currently Glory Girl or Panacea. Neither are good ideas because using this to block would make you hate the Shaper.
-Wind-Born Stride - Tested already
-Sacred Kamilla's Inhalation - We aren't going to be inhaling corpses any time soon I suspect.
-Freedom Lets Go - Valid targets at present for testing are Sophia, Emma or Oni Lee. We probably don't want to do the memory discard option though. Not urgent to test.
-Loom-Snarling Deception - Already tested
-Mother Sea Mastery - Just need to go swimming, not hard.
-Means to Meaning - Not hard to test, just need a bit of E88 graffti or find a foreign language article. Not urgent to test.


Struck out for stuff we can't/won't test. Bolded for what I think we should test.

[X]See if you can't get Dad released and help him get back on his feet
-[X] Stunt: Threads of her new sense winds through the unconscious Danny, taking clinical inventory of his physical health, much as Taylor ignores the rather unnecessary and excessive elements it reports back. She knows, somehow, that he is physically better than fine, after Panacea's care, his body in near mint condition, down to the old broken bone he had once talked about, and the ache in his knee that he never said anything of. Just fatigue, stress and drugs to deal with both then. Good.

A priority of Taylor's I believe. The sooner he's not a drugged up wreck and the

[X]Do Cape research on PHO and the Parahumans Wiki

Before doing anything, always analyze your options.
SWLIHN's Excellency works poorly and unreliably on the unknown, so make it known.

No time for write more stunts, but Means to Meaning allows her to access foreign language pages freely, which would be useful for investigating Lung's background, and some of the E88 members, as well as what people outside America say about the PRT.

[X]Go in to register as a hero and join the Wards

Personally, we're already on Coil's attention list(rather noticable 'trigger event', and a new Infernal is vulnerable to a simple smash and grab. Additionally, Danny's work would have suffered, I'm not sure how well the Dockworkers Association deals with "Went AWOL to confront the PRT about his kid, and then got in a nearly fatal accident" but some places would leave him fired.

Wards wise, we can negotiate a fairly decent pay for a teenager short of going villian, and lean on their resources to paper over what happened.

Keeping in mind that the Wards only control what we do on duty, and cannot override Danny's wishes if we maintain a good relationship there. It also gives us trainers, which is pretty valuable for any non-favored abilities.

No time to write any more stunts alas, even though I wanted to use the Excellency on negotiating the term for more benefits.

Not voting for this but:
[ ]Go in and register as an independent hero.

Okay, whether or not we want to join the Wards is up for debate(currently two Wards quests that are still active out of about 8 or so active Worm quests) if anyone wants to argue the "I never see Wards" versus "Everyone joins the Wards"), but we SHOULD at least, register as a hero regardless of whether we want to be a Ward, to avoid the sort of retarded accidents that can happen.
 
Our caste is Defiler, whose patron is Swillin', and our favored Yozi is someone else, right? Mechanically, what does that mean exactly? Do we gain discounts to charms from our patron and our favored?

Also, Swillin' is very much based around imposing order and organization on things, so I'd assume that many of her charms involve working to improve systems. What do her charms allow us to do to organizations?

(also less important and unrelated, are there reference images for the mutations Taylor has? I've seen the smoke hair, but I haven't seen a picture of the limbs. Could you maybe add a couple of links to references on the character sheet?)

I'm sorry if these have been asked before​
 
. Though I remember reading somewhere that apparently her whole sense of her own sexuality was slanted by puberty happening around VIcky's persistent Master after-effects?
Basically. She's grown up with some time ages 10-14 spent nearly permanently under Victoria's Awe aura, to the extent that she claims not to feel it anymore.
Or it might've been a simple psychological addiction that had Gallant and Amy so wrapped around Vicky's finger, rather than subtle and insidious brain damage.
As far as I know from WoG, this is just the effect of long term exposure to mood altering effects. Addiction to anyone feeling the aura long term is quite possible, since well...you feel good and in awe of her when she likes you and terrified when she's not happy with you. You don't need anything more to break someone down over time. Panacea was just extra vulnerable because she was noted to have spent all her time around Victoria (if you have siblings you might see it sometimes), and the aura just reinforced it. By the time she hit present day, her initial sexual orientation didn't matter anymore, Victoria is what makes her feel good to be around, and being without her makes you feel like the sun's gone away.

Incidentally the Awe aura is based off Gallant's own emotion blast. He was in the audience when she triggered, so her shard borrowed a few functions from his.
 
Our caste is Defiler, whose patron is Swillin', and our favored Yozi is someone else, right? Mechanically, what does that mean exactly? Do we gain discounts to charms from our patron and our favored?
Mostly discounts, but since Infernal charm trees are long and require many repurchases, you want to only have excellencies from your Favored
 
Our caste is Defiler, whose patron is Swillin', and our favored Yozi is someone else, right? Mechanically, what does that mean exactly? Do we gain discounts to charms from our patron and our favored?
Yes. XP costs are 20% off, while training times are IIRC halved. This is of course subject to house rules.

Also, Swillin' is very much based around imposing order and organization on things, so I'd assume that many of her charms involve working to improve systems. What do her charms allow us to do to organizations?
The charmset docs for the homebrew version of SWLIHN that we're using are available here.

Revlid's SWLIHN rewrite
Extension to Revlid's SWLIHN rewrite

Note that the QM is merging some of the canon charms back into that revision, and we can always create custom charms for any reason, so it isn't necessarily completely accurate. A pictorial representation of the homebrew tree (and some generic charms from the canon set) can be found here.

For future reference, see the post with all the images here and the posts with the homebrew links here. (QM PLEASE THREADMARK THOSE BEFORE THE THREAD GETS TOO HUGE)
 
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Basically. She's grown up with some time ages 10-14 spent nearly permanently under Victoria's Awe aura, to the extent that she claims not to feel it anymore.

As far as I know from WoG, this is just the effect of long term exposure to mood altering effects. Addiction to anyone feeling the aura long term is quite possible, since well...you feel good and in awe of her when she likes you and terrified when she's not happy with you. You don't need anything more to break someone down over time. Panacea was just extra vulnerable because she was noted to have spent all her time around Victoria (if you have siblings you might see it sometimes), and the aura just reinforced it. By the time she hit present day, her initial sexual orientation didn't matter anymore, Victoria is what makes her feel good to be around, and being without her makes you feel like the sun's gone away.

Incidentally the Awe aura is based off Gallant's own emotion blast. He was in the audience when she triggered, so her shard borrowed a few functions from his.

Which of course raises the question if she's even capable of feeling sexual attraction outside of Victoria.
 
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