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Infernal Conundrum: [Exalted/Worm] - Part 2: Hell is Other Exalts

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veekie said:
All of them are people of action, so they don't just stay peacefully stunned but take dramatic action based on assumptions
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Well yea, they're going to lash out but they'll be surprised at best to find they've died and woken up outside of creation, in another life. They probably expect the "new life new body" thing, they themselves probably had memories of a past life, but they certainly wouldn't expect to be an infernal.
 
veekie said:
Oh right for non exalted dudes, how Past Life works:

You have a set of memories from the previous holders of the Exaltation, but they're not normally significant.

In times of stress, you can elect to draw upon THEIR skills and knowledge(which for the First Age Solars, is Yes, even in their areas of weakness), however, this increases bleedthrough, so they may outright takeover you for a time, doing as they like, before the bleedthrough resets again. This usually isn't for more than a day, or even a few hours.
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So is it really so that the bleedthrough won't be significiant unless we actively draw upon the past live's skills? I presumed it would be more like a merging, us getting some traits from them. For example, if we go with life 4, this means Taylor herself won't be afraid of bees at all, but if we draw on our past life's skills or if the past life ever takes over, he/she will be utterly terrified of them?
 
If using the Past Life as written, when you draw upon the skills, its only a partial memory bleed through, like remembering how to ride a bicycle. When its possession mode, you think you are them.
 
[X]Life 5:
-Pros: The greatest detective Creation ever knew. If it can be found out, she could and did.
-Cons: Absolutely incorrigible gossip. Bad taste in men. And in women.

Gritty noir Solar with a weakness for the dames and the... Dams? The fuck do you call a guy in noir? Eh, this just seems like it could be hilarious.
 
[X]Life 5:
-Pros: The greatest detective Creation ever knew. If it can be found out, she could and did.
-Cons: Absolutely incorrigible gossip. Bad taste in men. And in women.

It was a tie between this and Life 1, but I feel like if we're going with canon Trigger then being a god-tier detective will help quite a bit. Despite the poor taste in significant others.

Though to be fair, very few people in Worm had stable relationships.
 
[X]Life 1:
-Pros: Foremost Genesis Crafter of the High First Age. Invented entire classifications of new species. Also, heroin-pissing dinosaurs.
-Cons: Had a reputation as a bit of a party animal.
 
Dad thinks we're an angel. That's... honestly? That's worthy of like, ten thousand hugs.
Thanks, Dad.


[X]Life 5:
-Pros: The greatest detective Creation ever knew. If it can be found out, she could and did.
-Cons: Absolutely incorrigible gossip. Bad taste in men. And in women.

Because it sounds the most interesting from both a plus and minus perspective.
veekie said:
-Life 5: Taylor may wake up literally in bed with a number of terrible people. After having discovered and exposed Cauldron.
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I mean, what could possibly go wrong? Everything, but in the most exciting way possible.

bonus points if this Taylor acquires a 20s noir accent/speech pattern
 
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[X]Life 1:
-Pros: Foremost Genesis Crafter of the High First Age. Invented entire classifications of new species. Also, heroin-pissing dinosaurs.
-Cons: Had a reputation as a bit of a party animal.
 
Did a super-quick tally:

Eight votes for 1
Two votes for 2
Two votes for 3
Four votes for 4
Five votes for 5
No votes for 6

Bio-engineering party animal is in the lead, with Detective of Questionable Tastes in Lewds in second. No one wants to be a machine nerd, which is interesting. I suppose the weakness is probably too debilitating.

Both of those options are not bad IMO, but I still like 5 more than 1. It just sounds so much more... unique then just partying all over the place. :V

And I do feel the detective would fit right into Earth-Bet. Questionable waifus and husbandos? Check. Mysteries to solve? Check.
 
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I'm swayed by the fact that we look to be sidling towards New Wave, which means Panacea, which means more chances of actually creating a Beast of Resplendent Liquids.
This is a joy I wish to inflict on the world. Even better if Taylor and Amy have no memory of creating it due to past life possession induced bender.
 
[X]Life 5:
-Pros: The greatest detective Creation ever knew. If it can be found out, she could and did.
-Cons: Absolutely incorrigible gossip. Bad taste in men. And in women.
 
Thief of Words said:
"Your father was in an accident. A car hit him.
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The universe likes having the Hebert family as a chew toy it seems. Perhaps a negative Intimacy towards automotives ("Fuck those things, they almost killed both my parents.")?

Thief of Words said:
<I...have no idea who or what this Cecelyne is, but she sounds like a complete bitch.>
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Yes, she's a wee bit spiteful, Taylor. /dramaticallyundersellingthepoint

[X]Life 5:
-Pros: The greatest detective Creation ever knew. If it can be found out, she could and did.
-Cons: Absolutely incorrigible gossip. Bad taste in men. And in women.
 
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[X]Life 5:
-Pros: The greatest detective Creation ever knew. If it can be found out, she could and did.
-Cons: Absolutely incorrigible gossip. Bad taste in men. And in women.

Not Thinker-based detective skills will be very useful for finding some of the truths of this world.
 
Life 6 is basically Armsmaster as a Solar. No thank you; one is quite enough.

[X]Life 4:
-Pros: One of the greatest Experts on Exaltations outside of The Great Maker, Sol Himself, and Lytek. Among Creation's foremost physicians as well.
-Cons: Absolutely terrified of bees.
 
[X]Life 1:
-Pros: Foremost Genesis Crafter of the High First Age. Invented entire classifications of new species. Also, heroin-pissing dinosaurs.
-Cons: Had a reputation as a bit of a party animal.
Twei said:
Dad thinks we're an angel. That's... honestly? That's worthy of like, ten thousand hugs.
Thanks, Dad.
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I kept expecting him to call us Annette and start hitting on us or something. The man's up to his gills in drugs, injured, calling us an angel, etc.

I'm more disappointed that he didn't than anything else really. With how hung up he is on his wife, Taylor's new looks (meaning she doesn't look like herself and looks more like Annette), and all his more current conditions... It really would have made sense and fit if he had. *Is disappointed at lack of Trauma Train when it would have made sense*
 
[X]Life 5:
-Pros: The greatest detective Creation ever knew. If it can be found out, she could and did.
-Cons: Absolutely incorrigible gossip. Bad taste in men. And in women.

I am biased as I think that Thinkers are bullshit, but I would be totally okay with or life 1.
 
Adding to the Yozi summaries, using Revlid version:

Isidoros
The Black Boar That Twists the Sky is shameless and proud of everything he is and does. He boisterously indulges in his every primal urge, fuelled by a boundless vitality that allows him to smash through anything between him and his desires, for he knows that forbidden fruit tastes sweetest. The Antarch Stampede stubbornly rejects all authority, a self-absorbed creature who recognises only his own unstoppable force. He is wilful and contrary, an anarchist who even scorns systems of law, nature and probability, but is at least honest in his violent disrespect for others. Competition and challenges especially rouse him, as he parades his awesome might by trampling imitators. Isidoros is unconcerned by the senseless destruction he causes in such displays, for he does not consider anything but the present, a myopic carelessness that allows him to act with largesse.

Characters can always use this Charm to help satisfy their base desires, whether by foraging for food or propositioning sexual partners. It cannot ever be used to enhance actions taken at the behest of others, unless the Infernal takes special measures to make his independence clear. Isidoros can generally aid Infernals who are engaged in opposed or exceedingly difficult actions, provided they trumpet their victory to all; the Black Boar is vain and cannot understand humility.

  • Isidoros Mythos Exultant: Regain Valor channels alongside Willpower from stunts
  • INDOMITABLE HEDONISM DRIVE: Treat your Desires as Motivations. Have to fulfil desires to regain Willpower. Desires are intimacies following the pattern of "I like to x to y" ex: I like to eat pizza
    • STUBBORN GOD-BEAST INDULGENCE: Someone tells you not to do something? HA!
      • MERRY BOAR RAMPAGE: Gains Overdrive pool that fills as you fight for what you want.
    • UNBOTHERED BY FLIES: React to unexpected attacks without actually noticing them. Get back half the motes spent to defend yourself.
    • AROUSING INDELICATE PASSIONS: Make others share your Desires
    • ONE-AND-ONLY INSISTENCE: Noone can pretend to be you, but you can't hide who you are. Upgrades to make it so that the more someone knows about you, the easier it becomes for you to convince them of things, but you can't describe yourself in writing or in images.
    • CAVORTING PIG-IDOL: Give everyone a Desire directed at you, set a trend based on your actions, or make everyone "Slavishly Devoted" to one of your desires. Pick one.
    • RAW WHIMSY DILIGENCE: Change the target of your desires, can always channel Conviction to pursue a desire. ex. I like to eat pizza becomes I like to eat anticuchos
      • GODLESS DEBAUCHERY ENLIGHTENMENT: Gain extra motes when indulging a desire with another person. Only payoff counts. ex. Hours at a pizza party count. Hours making the pizza do not (unless you are eating pizza with someone else while doing so)
      • PLEASURE IS BUSINESS: Choose a short term task. Choose a desire. The desire looses its target until you run into something that could help you achieve the short term goal, which becomes your desire's target. ex. You want to break into a vault. You choose I like to eat pizza, which becomes I like to eat, until you happen to pass a weakened wall that could be easily broken through, at which point your desire becomes I want to eat that wall (note: eating walls without Metagaos charms is generally considered unwise)
      • TOIL BY PROXY: Actually going out and fulfilling your Desires is hard. Spawn a black-hole clone embodying that Desire to do it for you, then enjoy the memories (and the Willpower) when it finishes. All intimacies it incurs while doing so transfer to you. At higher Essense, lets you spawn more clones and use more responsible parts of your personality (although no Willpower is gained for being responsible)
    • QUAFFING THE GREEN OCEAN: Never get nausaeus. Resist all poisons and any diseases resulting from indulging in a Desire.
  • WEIGHT-EXAGGERATING EGO DENSITY: Your weight is multiplied by Essense (so min x2, x3 for starting Taylor). You are hard to send flying. You can block people and wrestle like a BOSS!
    • PUSH-TO-SHOVE REPLY: You laugh at Knockback attempts. In fact, you can even go so far as to redirect the knockback at nearby targets.
      • BEYOND YOUR FEEBLE REACH: Pefect dodge via warping space with your awesome mass. Can protect others. Second purchase lets you redirect attacks. Make the Siberian punch Jack Slash in the face.
    • FOE-HURLING GORE STRIKE: Its the Hero version of Heaven Thunder Hammer, although you can alternatively do an AOE knockdown.
      • GOD-HUMBLING BACKHAND BLOW: You can punch immaterial things with FHGS
      • TOWER-TOPPLING TANTRUM TOSS: Targets you send flying damage scenery (punch someone through multiple buildings)
      • REGIMENTS LIKE BOWLING PINS: Its Shockwave Fist. Use people you send flying as projectiles.
      • BEHEMOTH SHOCKWAVE POUND: Turns an attack into an AOE. Second purchase lets you do it at range.
    • WHOREHOUSE-FLINGING MUSCLE: Smash stuff good. Stuff, not people.
    • IMPEDED BY NOTHING: When using WEED, lets you ignore terrain penalties to movement.
      • ONCOMING INEVITABLE IMPACT: Lets you move while aiming, increases max benefits from aiming (Chaaaarge!). Also applies to social combat (allows us to stomp up to someone and make a very good point)
        • THIS TIME IT'S PERSONAL: Gain motes when fighting Grudgebearers (people who hate you, but you couldn't care less about). You know someone is a Grudgebearer when black and red Essense streams from their wounds into your mouth, making them easy for you to track (and you easy for them to track)
      • DOOR-SPLINTERING JUGGERNAUT MOTION: Allows you to attack any inanimate object you come into contact with while moving, with a growing mote cost for each one after the first. Oh Yeah!
      • SINEW-AND-DEBRIS CORONA: Stuff (and people) you smash get sucked up as ablative armor (extra health levels). Leave no debris (or corpses) in your wake. Works well with DSJM.
        • BLACK VITALITY RUBBLE-ROUSING: Explode that ablative armor for motes for you and pain for everyone around you.
      • ROAM-ALL-OVER CARELESSNESS: Fuck you gravity, I decide which way is down! Later, lets you redefine other people's gravity.
      • FECKLESS GIANT WANDERINGS: You can't be tracked on journies longer than an hour, because noone can make sense of your itinerary. Applies to people traveling with you, whether you like it or not.
        • NOMADIC NAVIGATION NESCIENCE: So, I wanna walk from Boston, MA to Austin, TX. First stop, Tokyo! Next stop, London! Next stop, somewhere in the back woods of the Congo! And I'm at my destination. What took you guys so long? (Seriously, this is a fun one)
    • REMOTE SATISFACTION DEMAND: Call stuff you own to your hand. Lets you rip out pieces of buildings. Further purchases increase range and lets you target stuff you down own, stuff nobody owns for cheaper. Third purchase lets you target stuff other people are holding.
      • BOAR'S INESCAPABLE GRAVITY: GET OVER HERE! Also, double range and damage of RSD.
      • MIDNIGHT BELLY STOCKPILE: GET IN MAH BELLY! Lets you store stuff Elsewhere.
        • DARK STAR SHINTAI: You realize you are, in point of fact, a black hole. Ups the weight gain from WEED by a factor of 10 (So x50 when you can first purchase it). Gives aura that smashes everything around you, blocks ranged attacks and lets you use MBS at range. Can use BSP for free, reduce price of FHGS 1 mote at Essense 5, 0 at Essense 6 (So, can send everything flying for cheap). Can use RSD for free, and BIG on everything in range (lets you suck up everything in 50 yards at Essense 5, assuming 3 purchases of RSD)
Overall, a very fun charmset. Lots of fun synergy. IHD tree can act as a multiplying factor for any build/character, depending on what Desires are taken.
Canon Taylor is a textbook example of IHD and RWD in action, with a Desire of "I want to Save Dinah" turning into "I want to Save the World".
Isidoros + Malfeas = Malfeas taken up to 11, then squared.
Isidoros + Cecelyne = Overzealous loan shark.
Isidoros + SWLIHN = I will shatter the world to rebuild it according to my good order.
Isidoros + Adorjan = COMING THROUGH!
Isidoros + TED = A truely horrifying combination. Just think about Desires such as "Corrupting the Innocent" and "Fostering Immorality" when combined with AIP. Not a lot of combat charm synergy though.
Isidoros + Metagaos = IMMA GONNA EAT/BE EVERYTHING!
Isidoros + Hegara = PARTY PARTY PARTY PARTY PARTY PARTY PARTY
Isidoros + Elloge = SI Fanfiction taken up to 11.

Isidoros is probably the Yozi with the most homebrew versions out there.
 
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