I'm a High Fantasy Tax Collector, So What? A CKII Tax Collector Quest
- Thread starter hYGP
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- Original Fantasy
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- death ck2 quest all proceeds go to real spiders are we revolutionaries or reactionaries today criminal justice discussion makes the gm fuzzy don't count your boats before they sail granary management if i lose my meows get me likes to replace them justice spider knock knock it's the finance ministry meows for discussion while supplies last taxation taxes this is not an empire quest
- Location
- Attached to a wall
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I think that we should maybe look at Ophelia the next occasion that it is possible.
She is new to this new position. It wouldn't be good for her mental well-being if the only moments that she gets attention are the moments she is going to be/being possessed.
- Location
- Europe
[X] Tell him what you suspect
There's a dilemma on telling our king about this. On one hand, he's bad at intrigue, and unlikely to find this out otherwise, which could well hurt the nation. On the other hand, since he's bad at intrigue, telling him this might lead to civil war which is also bad for the nation.
I'm gonna hope he's got at least a few inteligent people beside him.
There's a dilemma on telling our king about this. On one hand, he's bad at intrigue, and unlikely to find this out otherwise, which could well hurt the nation. On the other hand, since he's bad at intrigue, telling him this might lead to civil war which is also bad for the nation.
I'm gonna hope he's got at least a few inteligent people beside him.
- Location
- The state of Paranoia
It's very possible that the colonists won't get the disease, since we're not just a different species but a whole different phyla. In which case, we need to make sure that we use that to our advantage, rather than letting it cause the commoners to hate to colonists from jealousy.
What we should do is emphasize the fact that this means that you can't catch the disease from colonists. We can take advantage of this by having our people go out and help the commoners in various ways, tending to the sick and quarantined and generally doing useful things like distributing charity from us/Natalia. Basically, while the disease lasts we can have the colonists as Natalia's link to her people, hopefully showing them how useful it is to be on good terms with their new spoodery neighbors.
Has anyone ever read 'Be Nice To Spiders'? Some kind of propaganda similar to that would be good, emphasizing the usefulness of the colonists as well as their relatability and general friendliness.
What we should do is emphasize the fact that this means that you can't catch the disease from colonists. We can take advantage of this by having our people go out and help the commoners in various ways, tending to the sick and quarantined and generally doing useful things like distributing charity from us/Natalia. Basically, while the disease lasts we can have the colonists as Natalia's link to her people, hopefully showing them how useful it is to be on good terms with their new spoodery neighbors.
Has anyone ever read 'Be Nice To Spiders'? Some kind of propaganda similar to that would be good, emphasizing the usefulness of the colonists as well as their relatability and general friendliness.
[X] Tell him what you suspect
We may have no idea of who the conspirators or accessories are besides the possibility the minister of the interior may be compromised somehow, but with us finding out it is very likely for internal traitors, any preparation needs to be done with it in mind.
We may have no idea of who the conspirators or accessories are besides the possibility the minister of the interior may be compromised somehow, but with us finding out it is very likely for internal traitors, any preparation needs to be done with it in mind.
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Gardener of Human Happiness
- Location
- Behind You
Ah, but do you think he'll listen to them?
Besides, they're probably all corrupt anyway.
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Gap
Not a Dog
- Location
- The Malleary
[X] Tell him what you know
We don't know for sure about the traitors. If our King is not an Intrigue capable person he may end up going to far, possibly pushing those on the fence to the other side, the Country need to "appear" united at least.
On the other hand he may end up trusting the wrong person, but that risk is always happening on Oskaria.
We don't know for sure about the traitors. If our King is not an Intrigue capable person he may end up going to far, possibly pushing those on the fence to the other side, the Country need to "appear" united at least.
On the other hand he may end up trusting the wrong person, but that risk is always happening on Oskaria.
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Solarstream
It's all in the cards
- Location
- Zombie World
- Pronouns
- He/Him
] Spider-hugs for Ophelia!
- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
A civil war might not be that bad if we can wrap it up before the crusade ends since it may allow us to route out disloyal elements and leave the country more united and stronger than before. On the other hand, it could backfire if the civil war drags out or it causes enough damage that Oskaria will be weaker than before no matter how united it is afterwards.
[X] Tell him what you suspect
- Location
- Somewhere over the rainbow
>tfw no one unpacks what you packed into the meeting with the Minister of the Interior
Fine. I'll do it myself.
"Your insults and slights can't hurt me, bitch."
Of course, death of the author is a thing, and perhaps I have missed something - or intentionally excluded it from this conversational break down... >:3
Fine. I'll do it myself.
The Minister of the Interior likes to feel important, installing a desk specifically made to make her look taller and look down on the people in the room.
"You answer to me, and I'm not going to welcome you."
"Of course not, I answer to the King, you rude prick."
"You aren't owed any respect."
"Then fuck you too."
"If you don't drink this bullshit that I have intentionally picked, you don't count as civilized."
"Your hospitality is shit and I don't want to spend any more time than I need with you."
"Hah! Eat it."
"Your insults and slights can't hurt me, bitch."
"Oh, so you're just a weirdo."
"I'm going to fuck you up if you keep talking shit."
"I'm going to pretend like I didn't hear that."
"You will answer to me because I'm implicitly threatening your family."
"Fuck you I answer to the King, not you."
"You're gross and a pervert and probably uncivilized. Leave."
"I'm gonna take my sweet ass time doing it."
Of course, death of the author is a thing, and perhaps I have missed something - or intentionally excluded it from this conversational break down... >:3
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- Location
- Canada
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I mean I'd say it got picked up - we've all been talking about the spider racist and how she's on the list now.
Sirrocco
Pedantic
I asked this, and the answer was... pretty clear, really.
Agueda is sure they're guilty. He just doesn't have legally admissable evidence yet. Assuming that our QM doesn't use rhetorical questions as traps to strongly imply things that are not true, King Julius absolutely wants to hear things that are at that level of certainty.
also...
I'd picked up on a lot of that, and it was pretty cool. I admit I hadn't picked up on all of it, but picking up on all of it (or almost all of it) would have required doing explicit analysis, and I was focusing that on other stuff.
- Location
- USA
Questers got a lot of that, but it didn't really seem relevant to comment on? Like we got that she's a bitch and a racist, but a verbal spar like that doesn't require translation for us. Or more exactly, translation can help, but we often don't feel compelled to translate.
We're here for the pseudo episodic journey of the Tax Spooder as him and his band of misfits do their best to unfuck the country. Wordplay like that really isn't the drawing factor for this quest even if it doesn't detract from it
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- Location
- Belgium
I had picked up on it, but....I didn't care to make a translation. That said many thanks for putting in the effort of making one yourself.
- Location
- Somewhere over the rainbow
Hm. Fair, saying that no one picked up on it was a bridge too far. I guess I just wanted someone to translate it more fully q.q
In other news, while I await a few names being cleared (heretofore referred to as NOT YET NAMED I and II, I can give you a semi-list of powers near you:
Great Powers:
Oskaria
Etrella - shares a mountainous border to the southwest of Oskaria, contact with other minor powers
Alanyiva - northwest by sea, no contiguous land border with Oskaria
Rusmysia - northeast mountainous land border with Brumyiva, mountainous border with the Steppes
NYN I - Eastern (Persian/Iranian) empire located on the other side of The Steppes, shares far land border with Rusmysia
NYN II* - Formerly breakaway province of NYN I, bordering Transulinia to the west
The Steppes** - Not an official polity but come on, literally here be dragons
Minor Powers:
NYN II* - Formerly breakaway province of NYN I, bordering Transulinia to the west
Transulinia - Forested province, shares land border to the southeast
Brumyiva - Broke away from Oskarian control 100 years ago to the northeast
Etrellan Minors - As of yet undefined minor powers to the other side of Etrella, Etrella has been attempting to pull them into the Etrellan sphere more fully.
In other news, while I await a few names being cleared (heretofore referred to as NOT YET NAMED I and II, I can give you a semi-list of powers near you:
Great Powers:
Oskaria
Etrella - shares a mountainous border to the southwest of Oskaria, contact with other minor powers
Alanyiva - northwest by sea, no contiguous land border with Oskaria
Rusmysia - northeast mountainous land border with Brumyiva, mountainous border with the Steppes
NYN I - Eastern (Persian/Iranian) empire located on the other side of The Steppes, shares far land border with Rusmysia
NYN II* - Formerly breakaway province of NYN I, bordering Transulinia to the west
The Steppes** - Not an official polity but come on, literally here be dragons
Minor Powers:
NYN II* - Formerly breakaway province of NYN I, bordering Transulinia to the west
Transulinia - Forested province, shares land border to the southeast
Brumyiva - Broke away from Oskarian control 100 years ago to the northeast
Etrellan Minors - As of yet undefined minor powers to the other side of Etrella, Etrella has been attempting to pull them into the Etrellan sphere more fully.
- Location
- Attached to a wall
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I want to say that even though I don't know what to say about things most of the time dialogue like that and the flower dialogue do add a great deal of weight to those scenes and I appreciated them greatly.
- Location
- Canada
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Nine Ynch Nails has a spin-off group?
- Location
- USA
No, they're the remainder of *NSYNC after some of them left to pursue solo careers.
My mind heavily downplayed the threat to our family. That could be enough to expect our compliance, depending upon her own views. Given that she even made the threat it seems doubtful that she is in the "those animals eat their own young" camp, so there is at least some credibility to it. Still, Justice spider is not someone that a corrupt noble wants in their house, and surely she hasn't gotten to the ministry without seeing threats fail from time to time. Meh, I cannot into social.
"Nyan? Mrow..." *rainbows into space...*
Sirrocco
Pedantic
Hmmm...
So... just in case the rhetorical question is a trap...
So... no. That's not what I want to know. I want to know the answer to the question that I asked... or at least as much of it as Agueda himself knows and/or suspects.
So... just in case the rhetorical question is a trap...
On the one side, the vote talks about "suspicions". On the other, you're implying here that we're sure they're guilty. The question I asked was as to the King's attitude towards provable versus nonprovable - ie, "I want to get earliest warning, even if it's uncertain" vs "I am a very busy man, juggling a lot of plates, and dealing with a lot of liars. Don't tell me unless you have proof". The question you seem to be responding to is "how would he feel about traitors?"
So... no. That's not what I want to know. I want to know the answer to the question that I asked... or at least as much of it as Agueda himself knows and/or suspects.