Let's not interrupt our Magnostadt visit for something we can't change anyhow.

I don't think a reboot like we needed after Prosperity is a good idea when Nanoha's soul is currently fighting off our soulfire. Can we reclaim some of it? Otherwise, let's get Nanoha someplace safe and let her sleep it off.

After Nanoha is taken care of, I suggest we go on the shopping trip we planned, lest another distraction prevents us...



Why was the effect so much stronger this time?

How do we learn to make "Red-infused puppy-dog eyes"?

Future Jade seems to regret having slipped so far into Agni fashion, so how do we counteract or soften that development before it truly takes hold?

The AI researcher sounds like an Agni researcher AI, does Mom have any idea who it might be? As always, use MG illusions to replay as much of the scene as you remember.

How in the name of Ugin did our predecessor (probably Sylvester) leave behind a system that changes which planes we have access to? Is there a backdoor in our planeswalker spark?

How do we adjust MGLN-Earth's slow uplift to account for the masquerade?



@Alivaril:
Do Jade and Agneyastra think that reclaiming part of the soulfire is safe and that it would help Nanoha throw off the 'attack'?

Does Jade need to memorize the snippets to prevent further decay of how much we'll remember?
 
@Alivaril:
Do Jade and Agneyastra think that reclaiming part of the soulfire is safe and that it would help Nanoha throw off the 'attack'?

No. Perhaps if Agneyastra had attempted it upon initial contamination, but Nanoha's soul is now effectively smothering it. She'll be fine anyway.


Does Jade need to memorize the snippets to prevent further decay of how much we'll remember?

Jade doesn't think she can remember much more after the arcade. In order, she can remember telling the party about a new plane while in her bedroom, something about a flying teenager and a bunch of tall towers, a world of metal, a glimpse of Eternity, an embarrassing statue in a decorated Earth plaza, discussing Earth while walking around, and freaking out in her bedroom.
 
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[X] Get Nanoha somewhere safer, then tell Sidhe you're checking on something in Eternity real quick and will be right back. As long as she doesn't seem too terrified by the idea, hop out and see WTF is going on over there, then return to the king-selection plane and Magnostadt.
 
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So this is a total sidetrack, but I was mentally going "Warhammerwarhammerwarhammer--" and that set me thinking how a fundamentally kind goddess could still be terrifying in a universe that dark, and combined with Nanoha beamspam, this led me to a concept I call "Fate Beam!" Basically, the actual attack is just your regular heat/entropy beam, but the cool thing is it's fundamentally incapable of destroying scenery or harming bystanders. It's not that there's directions it'll refuse to fire in, but if you fire it in a forest, all the trees will have happened to have grown to not intersect it. If you fire it in a building, all the architects will have independently decided to leave skylights and decorative openings everywhere.

Doesn't sound too scary, right? Now imagine growing up in a city riddled with tunnels and giant holes in buildings that, as far as you know, are just architectural fashion...
 
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No, I didn't get it from the text update.
She got it from these:
The turtle/spirit plane is gone, its resources inadequate for teaching and nurturing a budding Planeswalker of Red. You don't think it's been destroyed so much as drifted or pushed away.
"—And their world is so messed up that the closest thing they have to heroes are actual war criminals. Or, well, an organization that shelters them. I guess they get credit for thinking their actions really are necessary, but it's still just plain wrong."
EDIT: Admittedly, that second one doesn't have text mentioning the context of it being for a new plane. Oops. Conveying the accompanying IC confusion interfered with OOC clarity.


I'm more bothered than anything else, after looking forward to it the update was too confusing to enjoy it.

In a slightly twisted way, that's kind of a good thing since that's how Jade was feeling as well. Has been feeling about this whole mess interfering with her not-a-date, really. On the bright side, the next update should be much, much quicker; I basically had to do a whole bunch of different scenes and possible timelines for this update, then cut out singular pieces and discard the rest.

EDIT 2: Well, okay, not so much of a good thing. I suppose OOC enjoyment should take priority over reflection of IC feelings. Yet another example of how my background is one of a GM instead of a writer, sometimes for the worse. Sorry, I'll try to work on that. ^^;
 
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[X] Get Nanoha someplace safe and let her sleep it off.
-[X] Go shopping (see previous shopping vote)
-[X] Wait until your next scheduled planeswalk to see what's happening in Eternity.

Magnostadt was planned as a day-trip, so we should make the most of it and not worry about other planes.
 
Heh. For those who don't get the chapter title: "Spam Box" refers to Neph. Without her to act as a filter, Jade (and the readers) would be constantly disoriented by precog visions, as experienced here.

I'm guessing Jade's intuition about the last attempt being a consequence of sharing soulfire caused her to accidentally share a little more this time? And doing so temporarily broke down the barriers between her aspects? Whoops?

The turtle/spirit plane is gone, its resources inadequate for teaching and nurturing a budding Planeswalker of Red. You don't think it's been destroyed so much as drifted or pushed away.


Your predecessor knew he was going to die and planned for it—

This doesn't look like a precog vision, but instead a present-tense glimpse of Eternity.

Note the Georgia font; it's likely Jade's third 'ancestral' aspect bleeding through, who appears to have been responsible for pushing the Avatar plane away. (Or at least aware of the responsible mechanism.)
 
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[X] Wait until your next scheduled planeswalk to see what's happening. It's not as though you could do anything with the knowledge anyway. The stupid Jewel Seed incident is already dominating your schedule.
Cool, but kinda hard to read.
The couple are cute as always, and I hope her soul ingesting the soulfire at least means that it is better nourished or something.
 
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Seems like an out-of-place setting to me. It'd need quite a bit of a makeover, I think. Or just low mana levels? It would be a cool source of tech, though.
How in the name of Ugin did our predecessor (probably Sylvester) leave behind a system that changes which planes we have access to? Is there a backdoor in our planeswalker spark?
Given that said predecessor also seems to have isolated these planes from being noticed by the Eldrazi, my guess is that he enclosed our "allowed planes" area in a similar wall, subdividing the "bubble".
So this is a total sidetrack, but I was mentally going "Warhammerwarhammerwarhammer--" and that set me thinking how a fundamentally kind goddess could still be terrifying in a universe that dark, and combined with Nanoha beamspam, this led me to a concept I call "Fate Beam!" Basically, the actual attack is just your regular heat/entropy beam, but the cool thing is it's fundamentally incapable of destroying scenery or harming bystanders. It's not that there's directions it'll refuse to fire in, but if you fire it in a forest, all the trees will have happened to have grown to not intersect it. If you fire it in a building, all the architects will have independently decided to leave skylights and decorative openings everywhere.

Doesn't sound too scary, right? Now imagine growing up in a city riddled with tunnels and giant holes in buildings that, as far as you know, are just architectural fashion...
As cool as that would be, the changes necessary to make their "magic" line up well with mana magic seem pretty extensive. Especially the insanity-inducing part, which would kinda incline things towards Chaos being linked with the Eldrazi, which then makes the setting an immediate and pressing issue, as it would be very easy for it to end up drawing the Eldrazi to the other protected planes...it'd be a right mess.
No, I didn't get it from the text update.

I'm more bothered than anything else, after looking forward to it the update was too confusing to enjoy it.
Basically, we just saw some random futures repeatedly, because our actions temporarily disabled our metaphorical spam filter. But yes, it was deliberately confusing, which made it quite difficult to be sure Alivaril was getting across the information he wanted. I did warn him about that.
EDIT: Admittedly, that second one doesn't have text mentioning the context of it being for a new plane. Oops. Conveying the accompanying IC confusion interfered with OOC clarity.
...Oh, so that's what that meant. That was one of the more confusing bits. Okay, that works better.

Edit: And yes, I've had a preview of the new plane. While I'm unsure if we'll be likely to visit it anytime soon, it's certainly one with a challenge we can sink our teeth into. One somewhat different from most other planes, as well, which is certainly neat.
This doesn't look like a precog vision, but instead a present-tense glimpse of Eternity.
They're future thoughts. Possibly near-future ones, but future thoughts nonetheless.
 
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So, I was right - there actually is an active masquerade going on on Earth-MGLN! Not just few vampire families. And they knew about TSAB. Certainly interesting.

And was that Fate speaking in blue? Thinking she could trivially take us? I am almost insulted.

Lionturtles know of planeswalkers. That's probably important.

And there's at least one Agni AI that has been building "carriers" and might not be in its right mind. Worrying.
 
How in the name of Ugin did our predecessor (probably Sylvester) leave behind a system that changes which planes we have access to? Is there a backdoor in our planeswalker spark?
Your predecessor knew he was going to die and planned for it—
Is that what Sylverster's ritual actually did? Pass down some part of him and ensure that he can guide any future Agni planeswalkers? With uplifting the rest of Agni to (demi?)godhood being just a side effect of pumping them full of planeswalker soul stuff.
 
So, I was right - there actually is an active masquerade going on on Earth-MGLN! Not just few vampire families. And they knew about TSAB. Certainly interesting.

And was that Fate speaking in blue? Thinking she could trivially take us? I am almost insulted.

Lionturtles know of planeswalkers. That's probably important.

And there's at least one Agni AI that has been building "carriers" and might not be in its right mind. Worrying.
Lion turtles are also out of our reach, now. And the one making carriers may not be an AI.
"I have prepared several of these carriers, Princess, but require permission to create dedicated intelligences for each of them. May I have it?"

Greed struggles with caution for the half-second before Mom interjects.

"Jade, I'll note he has not promised to place them under your command if permission is given. I do not believe this to be wise."


A surge of disorientation has you starting to raise another shield inside Mom's own defenses, prepared for an attack from the ancient AI researcher who should never have been left—
Emphasis mine. Depending how you parse that, it's either an ancient AI researcher, or an ancient AI researcher. So, either an Agni AI gone rogue, or most likely Jail, who may require Jade's voice-print or the like to continue with his construction, because of some protocol in whatever he's using.
Now we have 3 different Earths to compare to each other.
What makes you say that? If Alivaril stated there was a new Earth on the new plane, I missed it.
Is that what Sylverster's ritual actually did? Pass down some part of him and ensure that he can guide any future Agni planeswalkers? With uplifting the rest of Agni to (demi?)godhood being just a side effect of pumping them full of planeswalker soul stuff.
I'm still not entirely convinced he is that predecessor. It's possible, but that ritual he pulled would also have to isolate a set of planes of unknown number from discovery by the Eldrazi, which definitely seems like a "burn your Spark out" level spell, on it's own. Simultaneously doing that and splitting some of his Spark between his relatives seems like a lot of things to do with one ritual.
 
Emphasis mine. Depending how you parse that, it's either an ancient AI researcher, or an ancient AI researcher.

Context suggests it's an ancient AI (world of metal, color text, emphasis on needing explicit permission), but I find it amusing to consider it both. As in, an ancient AI who researches AIs.

Probably not though, because that would be a extremely stupid thing for an advanced civilization worried about rogue AIs to authorize.

They're future thoughts. Possibly near-future ones, but future thoughts nonetheless.

Ah, yes, I suppose that makes sense.

Still, I'm 95% confident the Georgia text in the vision represented bleed-through from a source other than Neph, though whether it is a full-fledged aspect remains to be seen. The tone didn't match Neph at all, and the informational content was more like 'ancestral memory' instead of 'precog'.

Fairly sure the source was the same as whatever/whomever was responsible for this quote:

Child, just look away already! No war or guilt for you. The last thing you need is more trauma or angst.
 
Because that way saying that we lost and gained a plane makes sense.
...Gonna have to break that down for me.
Context suggests it's an ancient AI (world of metal, color text, emphasis on needing explicit permission), but I find it amusing to consider it both. As in, an ancient AI who researches AIs.

Probably not though, because that would be a extremely stupid thing for an advanced civilization worried about rogue AIs to authorize.
The color text may also indicate being cyborged. See: the talk with Fate we saw.
Ah, yes, I suppose that makes sense.

Still, I'm 95% confident the Georgia text in the vision represented bleed-through from a source other than Neph, though whether it is a full-fledged aspect remains to be seen. The tone didn't match Neph at all, and the informational content was more like 'ancestral memory' instead of 'precog'.

Fairly sure the source was the same as whatever/whomever was responsible for this quote:
We'll see. Still, you're probably right that it's not Neph. Could be a remnant of Sylvester, and not us, though.
 
Where do people get XCOM from? A world whose closest thing to heroes is war criminals, or, rather, organization that shelters them? It doesn't say "XCOM" to me. Firstly because X-COM doesn't "shelter" war criminals (shelter from who?), and secondly because I am not sure if X-COM committed war crimes (yes, interrogation might count, but it's arguable if anyone but etherials count as fully sapient).

Also, a rather important implication - the plane selection is in-game, not a random one. They are being selected for us, as planes that can nurture a Red planeswalker. From the looks of it, Red OldWalker.
 
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