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- Orbit, Alpha Centauri
I'll join in on the unplanned vote. Good times.
[x] Dream
[x] Dream
Hold It In (RWBY/Transistor)
- Thread starter Prok
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infinityDivided
Prince Of Doom
- Location
- USA
- Location
- Hell
It is not like he actually called a vote tho? It is just people being silly. Nothing wrong with that.
- Location
- Goose Land
Personally I'd like it to be one of those "short faints" I've heard so much about but haven't actually seen much in fiction.
"Witch-Queen Induced Stroke" probably makes it a bit more of an issue unfortunately.
"Witch-Queen Induced Stroke" probably makes it a bit more of an issue unfortunately.
Man, I just love this story so much. Great chapter. Love your interpretation of Magic, I also immediately thought of Semblances when it was described before Ozpin even brought them up. A Semblance is basically an individual's interpretation of the world, and they use Aura to enact their own personal expression of that interpretation on the world.
Also I really like how you convey Ozpin is not explaining some things, but it's not for malicious reasons or because of incompetence, but because remembering some things hurts. It's not that he doesn't care, rather he never stopped caring. Why would he burden others with the knowledge that the Gods abandoned Humanity? That if they don't all unite, they will be wiped from existence? That doesn't help, it won't change how they act, Salem needs to be stopped first anyway before that's even a possibility because she will sabotage any efforts.
Lastly, love the implication that there's some sort of collective unconscious like others have mentioned that our Semblance tapped into. Makes me wonder if it worked so well and the revelation hit us so hard was because of that Arcane check. If so, then suddenly we have a great potential source of information to tap into when it comes to understanding anything Magic related. Doesn't necessarily know everything, and may not always be relevant, but more info and more sources of info are never a bad thing, especially for a Semblance like Jaune's. Of theres one thing I've learned from Statistics, it's that more data, as long as its collected and interpreted in an intelligent manner, is never a bad thing.
Also I really like how you convey Ozpin is not explaining some things, but it's not for malicious reasons or because of incompetence, but because remembering some things hurts. It's not that he doesn't care, rather he never stopped caring. Why would he burden others with the knowledge that the Gods abandoned Humanity? That if they don't all unite, they will be wiped from existence? That doesn't help, it won't change how they act, Salem needs to be stopped first anyway before that's even a possibility because she will sabotage any efforts.
Lastly, love the implication that there's some sort of collective unconscious like others have mentioned that our Semblance tapped into. Makes me wonder if it worked so well and the revelation hit us so hard was because of that Arcane check. If so, then suddenly we have a great potential source of information to tap into when it comes to understanding anything Magic related. Doesn't necessarily know everything, and may not always be relevant, but more info and more sources of info are never a bad thing, especially for a Semblance like Jaune's. Of theres one thing I've learned from Statistics, it's that more data, as long as its collected and interpreted in an intelligent manner, is never a bad thing.
Tassadar
The Overlord of Cakes & Toucans!
Only if Humanity calls them back.
Getting rid of the relics would make this impossible... sure they could come back without that, but then they already would be breaking there own word anyway. Which mean there word on humanity being united is also made worthless.
i wonder if Ozpin knows any isolated, easily defended locations we can drop a few Cells off at? establish some hidden redoubts for for us to build up a stockpile of forces at.
also an upgrade for laser weapons is gonna be introducing the process to the pulse laser concept. rather then overwhelm thermal bloom and enemy defense via raw power the a pulse laser bypasses the issue via keeping the pulses short enough not to distort the air and will ablate the targets suface more effectivly.
In addition we can use lasers to make grimm explode via the Pulsed engery projectile concept where material from the target's surface is ablated and then ignighted to create an explosion.
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also an upgrade for laser weapons is gonna be introducing the process to the pulse laser concept. rather then overwhelm thermal bloom and enemy defense via raw power the a pulse laser bypasses the issue via keeping the pulses short enough not to distort the air and will ablate the targets suface more effectivly.
In addition we can use lasers to make grimm explode via the Pulsed engery projectile concept where material from the target's surface is ablated and then ignighted to create an explosion.
Pulsed energy projectile - Wikipedia
NexysDhyArchen
Throne Breaker
Building up Process units isn't the chokepoint here, its the design paradigm. If Jaune and his boys can 'digest' a few warbots and weapon designs, and get enough time to refine those designs under the Process' Singularity, then their power output is going to jump by magnitudes.
What I'm more interested in is bargaining with Ironwood with infinite energy generation and dust supplies. Because those two factors will immediately alter everything Ironwood can do, and Jaune could supply them trivially right now.
What I'm more interested in is bargaining with Ironwood with infinite energy generation and dust supplies. Because those two factors will immediately alter everything Ironwood can do, and Jaune could supply them trivially right now.
and dust deposts would be good sites for redoubts. Ironwood might know of a few dust sites that are unclaimed/unclaimable that the process can tap into and feed to his forces. at that point feeding Jaune a airship loaded with spare hardware is a dirt cheap investment.
I can't help but to wonder if the concussive effect might prove more destabilising, while ablation might not be effective against the weird properties of grimm-substance. Like, I am pretty sure that they are not made of mass...
We'll need to run tests.
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- Orbit, Alpha Centauri
So I've done a fair amount of work in various laser labs, and had to take a bunch of safety courses first. Probably the most effective thing we could do here is aim for Grimm eyes with pulsed lasers. With a high enough pulse amplitude its sort of like scrambling an egg, and it doesn't really take much power either. I'd be worried about anything more than a few watts average power really, lasers are pretty scary irl.
The concussive effect that @Aunty Shi Ping has mentioned is part of that, those high power pulses genreate little pockets of steam in tissue, which isn't great if that tissue is part of you. Luckily for us 610 nm is pretty easy to make safety goggles for, so thats a plus.
The concussive effect that @Aunty Shi Ping has mentioned is part of that, those high power pulses genreate little pockets of steam in tissue, which isn't great if that tissue is part of you. Luckily for us 610 nm is pretty easy to make safety goggles for, so thats a plus.
Does taking out the eyes work? I don't recall one way or the other, but they presumably have some sort of emotion sense which may or may not be practical to fight with. Which then raises the question of whether The Process has that variety of emotions...
Tisaku
Head Chief Thinkomancer
continue
- Location
- Orbit, Alpha Centauri
I would think blinding them would make it easier to take out a Grimm. They're made out of weird magic stuff, but I'm assuming that they still have some basis on normal biology. From the quest and the show they seem to feel pain. Good point on the emotion sense, since that's a fantasy element it's hard to qualify.
The part that makes lasers so effective at blinding is that the eye focuses light down to the sensitive part of the retina, it has to do that in order to work. It makes it so you can have a beam more spread out to hit a wide area, and still be damaging because of the focusing effect. There's also a very small part of an eye's retina called the fovea centralis that contains the bulk of the color and high resolution sensitivity in the eye. That's also the part most likely to be hit if you look into a laser beam.
I don't know if that would be enough to stop many varieties of Grimm, both wolves and boars have amazing senses of smell for instance, but it can only help.
The part that makes lasers so effective at blinding is that the eye focuses light down to the sensitive part of the retina, it has to do that in order to work. It makes it so you can have a beam more spread out to hit a wide area, and still be damaging because of the focusing effect. There's also a very small part of an eye's retina called the fovea centralis that contains the bulk of the color and high resolution sensitivity in the eye. That's also the part most likely to be hit if you look into a laser beam.
I don't know if that would be enough to stop many varieties of Grimm, both wolves and boars have amazing senses of smell for instance, but it can only help.
7734
Trust and verify.
- Location
- Philmont
One question I keep asking myself as I read this Quest, though, is where can we find some flesh-and-blood minions of our own? We're going to need people to help control the inevitable swarm of the Process and the goals under it, Operators of a sort, and they're going to need some work to integrate with the network. Maybe mental transference? Ah well. All we can do is dream: not of who we are, but who we want to be.
I like to think that someday The Process will be all grown up and entirely capable of being an independent entity that don't need to listen to its parents no more. Also capable of reconfiguring the planet into a giant unmentionable gesture directed along a trajectory that would pass through the moon at a certain point in distant history... . Seriously, avoiding the moon is the tiniest of detours, and you do not shatter the moon of any place you ever intend to come back to... . So I would prefer the term "guides", with the intent that the focus be more upon teaching than control. Of course, that will still require a diverse range of specialities and experiences...
nmWarden
Webcomic Glutton
- Location
- Texas
Prok please tell me any references you used for this wording. Please. Please tell me what you intended by describing "recurring tropes of human culture/psychodevelopment" as theory-knives. I am willing to beg for this.
I am deeply appreciative of this wording and I'd like to pick your brain on what it means generally and what it means in the scope of that end-of-chapter sequence. Feel free to simply answer "That'd be a Spoiler" to any parts of this comment you choose to answer.
I also have an idea rolling around the back of my mind that compares our thoughts to knives. Has been honed (ZING!) for months. And I'd compare certain thoughts to the head-pod of rockets. So much motivation and history focused onto a single cutting edge... I blame Kill Six Billion Demons and a few fanfics for locking the idea in my brain.
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The Sandman
So Zetta Slowpoke
- Location
- Wherever I am, which isn't where I'm not
Gonna say that given what the Brothers were like, a Deicide Protocol would be good for more than just dealing with Salem.
I was also under the impression that the Arcane "roll" was being done by Ozpin, and was an autosuccess to demonstrate that for most magic-related stuff he's pretty much at the pinnacle of human possibility.
And I figured that what the invisitext denotes is that when the question of why Ozpin's existence is necessary came up, the Process took a look at the informational substrate of reality as it pertains to Remnant and found the only pattern that fit was one shaped like Salem.
EDIT: While I'm sure Ozpin has a fine singing voice it's his talents in magic that are relevant here, regardless of what my phone's autocorrupt thinks.
I was also under the impression that the Arcane "roll" was being done by Ozpin, and was an autosuccess to demonstrate that for most magic-related stuff he's pretty much at the pinnacle of human possibility.
And I figured that what the invisitext denotes is that when the question of why Ozpin's existence is necessary came up, the Process took a look at the informational substrate of reality as it pertains to Remnant and found the only pattern that fit was one shaped like Salem.
EDIT: While I'm sure Ozpin has a fine singing voice it's his talents in magic that are relevant here, regardless of what my phone's autocorrupt thinks.
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This is bit of a nitpick, but a watt is not an amount of energy, it's a rate of energy transfer, specifically one joule per second. Usually electric companies measure their sales in MWh or megawatt-hours (KWh are also used). Beyond that I have no complaints regarding my fragile immersion.
Uh...power DRAW, is the rate at which energy is used. Watt is correct.
ADeshantis
King on the Chromium Throne
- Location
- United states
I know it was a typo but can Ozpin actually sing too?
And I could believe the Jaune Dice here, honestly. They're crazy.
NexysDhyArchen
Throne Breaker
To be fair, this has also got to be a bit of a mindfuck for everyone else there. How much of all this has Qrow and Goodwitch been clued in on? How much of Ozpin's deal are they taking in for the first time as well? How many times will they have to watch their boss inflict brain damage upon this one student?
ADeshantis
King on the Chromium Throne
- Location
- United states
Jaune, standing back up with help from the Transistor: "Is this gonna become a regular thing with you?"
Well, there were three theory-knives to the jugular of the human species like nmWarden pointed out. So at least 2 more times? Or maybe it meant that there were 3 theories that could explain the need for Ozpin's existence, and once the witch was theorized it was recognized as the correct answer, not sure.
Side note, awesome description and incredibly evocative word choice. It gave a mystical feel to Jaune's Semblance, which up to now has seemed very technical and science based despite coming from the soul. It shows there's more to it than just running numbers. Also great at showing just how much the revelation affected Jaune and why he panicked so much.
Oh wait. I think I get it.
Jaune simply cross referenced Ozpin to be the probable figure of many myths. The Wizard King.
If he is true, then some myths are true.
The wizard is a force for humanity. Humanity is still living in a shithole. Therefore he has some similarly immortal opponent. The Wizard mentioned he was not the only one from the primordial past.
Cross reference and eliminate the lesser figures which cannot pose a challenge on the scale of the Wizard.
Narrow remaining candidates by eliminating those not opposed to the Wizard raising powerful young Grimm hunting warriors.
Occam's Razor - The Queen of the Grimm is real.
Jaune simply cross referenced Ozpin to be the probable figure of many myths. The Wizard King.
If he is true, then some myths are true.
The wizard is a force for humanity. Humanity is still living in a shithole. Therefore he has some similarly immortal opponent. The Wizard mentioned he was not the only one from the primordial past.
Cross reference and eliminate the lesser figures which cannot pose a challenge on the scale of the Wizard.
Narrow remaining candidates by eliminating those not opposed to the Wizard raising powerful young Grimm hunting warriors.
Occam's Razor - The Queen of the Grimm is real.