[X] Ozpin- "... Ozpin's an immortal wizard who wields magic. The Transistor broke because he used said magic to make it stop thinking after it tried to poke his soul a bunch. He's not mad, it's fine, they made up."
[X] Ozpin- "... Ozpin's an immortal wizard who wields magic. The Transistor broke because he used said magic to make it stop thinking after it tried to poke his soul a bunch. He's not mad, it's fine, they made up."
[X] Ozpin- "... Ozpin's an immortal wizard who wields magic. The Transistor broke because he used said magic to make it stop thinking after it tried to poke his soul a bunch. He's not mad, it's fine, they made up."
[X] Ozpin- "... Ozpin's an immortal wizard who wields magic. The Transistor broke because he used said magic to make it stop thinking after it tried to poke his soul a bunch. He's not mad, it's fine, they made up."
[X] Rip Off The Bandaid- "... Have any of you ever had a Witch-Queen dream?"
-[X]"...and the worst part is, that's not the weirdest, worst, or even most important thing I discussed or experienced yesterday."
[X] Ozpin- "... Ozpin's an immortal wizard who wields magic. The Transistor broke because he used said magic to make it stop thinking after it tried to poke his soul a bunch. He's not mad, it's fine, they made up."
[X] Ozpin- "... Ozpin's an immortal wizard who wields magic. The Transistor broke because he used said magic to make it stop thinking after it tried to poke his soul a bunch. He's not mad, it's fine, they made up."
You know, I was rereading the portion with Ozpin, and... The Invisitext towards the end of the Witchqueen Realisation repeated deicide. AKA the killing of a god.
...Do people think we can learn to kill a god with the Process?
You know, I was rereading the portion with Ozpin, and... The Invisitext towards the end of the Witchqueen Realisation repeated deicide. AKA the killing of a god.
...Do people think we can learn to kill a god with the Process?
You know, I was rereading the portion with Ozpin, and... The Invisitext towards the end of the Witchqueen Realisation repeated deicide. AKA the killing of a god.
...Do people think we can learn to kill a god with the Process?
Honestly, I would prefer to just give them an eviction notice. "Yeah, no. I reject your right to judge mankind. You are both terrible parents in different ways, and I don't want either of you anywhere near mankind."
*Wiggles hand* Scale is not synonymous with Esoterics. You can have enough power to create a standard Earth-based Universe, and still not necessarily be able to defeat someone like Galactus.
Honestly, I would prefer to just give them an eviction notice. "Yeah, no. I reject your right to judge mankind. You are both terrible parents in different ways, and I don't want either of you anywhere near mankind."
[X] Ozpin- "... Ozpin's an immortal wizard who wields magic. The Transistor broke because he used said magic to make it stop thinking after it tried to poke his soul a bunch. He's not mad, it's fine, they made up."
Edit: On second thought, when I reread it. Ozpin or was it Qrow? Anyways, they recommended Jaune to tell his teammates to lessen the burden on himself.
It was both, really- Ozpin just kinda stole the show by inadvertently reminding Qrow of what broke Team STRQ apart, besides Summer's death. Either way, I should say that whatever's picked won't be the only topic discussed- it just sets the initial tone for the conversation to follow.
I must admit to being a bit sad not to have had a bit more of Goodwitch's reaction to "I sort of uhhh cut off the flow of time, added myself performing a series of attacks that cumulatively enhance eachother and then stitched time back together again with my new addition?"
Such is the nature of writing- I couldn't figure out a way to fit it in in a way that wouldn't make that scene drag on, and I couldn't expand it into something worth being a scene of its own. A shame, I know, especially since it would have let me explain my decisions regarding Turn(), which I'll have to do now.
The way I remember it being described was that Turn() used a predictive thing, and that it was just simulating actions until we actually carried them out. Then this chapter it seems to be straight super-speed time-stop thing, rather than super-complex simulation.
Chapter: Test(), Cycle 3: Turn() Iteration 1
How did Jaune fuck up to the point he had to step in an take one of his own hits for Dove when it shouldn't have even launched without him giving a final say so on the Plan? When it was supposed to be simulated until he'd consumed all the Plan() action economy?
The way it worked in the Game is that you had essentially infinite time in Plan() to turn the hack'and'slash board into a puzzle game for maxing damage or pulling off utilities. It introduced what was essentially bullet time, but the bullet time had to planned out first and happened next, like Fallout V.A.T.S. before time would start and you'd pull off your plan.
This was just... super speed.
It feels like we got punished for the plan that was picked because we crit.
Also, I have to second the question about how Turn() works; we indeed did *not* actually get punished for anything, and I'm fine with it being time dilation instead of an action planning setup, but which one it is is probably information we should know so we can keep it in mind for future fights.
Regarding Turn(), I'm not the QM so take this with a grain of salt, but it seems like it's less time dilation, more simulating the outcomes of your actions so you can plan, then pre-programming a set of actions you like for your body to execute automatically. No delay from having to think about it, no wasted time, no wasted motion.
The problem being: Huntsmen are FAST. Even amateurs like Blake and Ruby can parry bullets. That's, like... Basic Bitch Tier Huntsman Shenanigans. This is a problem because not only do you not have to think of your actions while executing a Turn(), you... Can't. Physically.
And even then, it's not so much a problem as a quirk of the ability. You're moving so fast that unless someone unusually fast is able to reduce your plan (which requires them to know a lot about Functions and to guess which ones you're gonna use), your chances of taking a hit during Turn() Execution are... slim to none.
We aren't being punished so much as getting a look at the kind of thing Turn() can do, and a very pointed reminder that it is INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS and attempting a CHEKUMEITO DA on someone we don't actually want to vaporize might not be a great idea outside of a spar.
It's a class, we're here to learn, we learned a thing.
No, I mean, we literally asked the QM if the plan had any danger of harming Dove, and he essentially said, "no, Jaune/The Transistor has it under control". With all the time Turn() gives us there should be no issues with overkill, because just like in the actual game, we can calculate the damage of our actions as we're doing them. So for us, the players, there is no actual lesson to be had.
As for how Turn() works, I wouldn't hesitate to say it's time dilation. In the game Red can just run while the world is almost still during Turn(), even without any functions being used, so the character is undoubtedly quicker than what just very quick reaction speed would allow. Preprogrammed actions wouldn't allow an otherwise normal human like Red to run at almost teleportation speeds.
[X] Ozpin- "... Ozpin's an immortal wizard who wields magic. The Transistor broke because he used said magic to make it stop thinking after it tried to poke his soul a bunch. He's not mad, it's fine, they made up."
Small correction: you were punished for the plan that was picked because you rolled a partial success on Load(), which is success plus consequence. If you hadn't crit, you simply wouldn't have had enough time or space to escape Load()'s blast radius. You were slated for 3 damage regardless, but the crit definitely made for a more coherent series of events leading up to that consequence.
As for why Jaune made such a basic mistake as not counting how many Crash()es he needed to put Dove down without hurting him- he's tired, he's anxious, he's been gaslit into a near berserk rage and then rubberbanded the other way, and all of that was before he got shot in the face.
The face. That thing in front of your brain.
Dice rolls be damned, I'm shocked it's the only mistake he made.
In regards to Turn() as a whole, I decided to change it up for a few reasons. First off, it now better fits the Semblance it was taken from, which is kind of important, given that's what Functions do. Secondly, I went back and played Transistor again recently- not for this quest or anything, it's just a game I go back to when I need something familiar and somewhat comforting- and I realised something about Turn().
See, yes, you have infinite time to think, but once you start moving... so does everything else. You may have JoJo levels of timestop for talking and thinking, but Red doesn't actually have the ability to stop time.
Example: you hit a Creep with a Crash(), and then it pings to the other side of the room, away from the rest of your attacks, rendering them useless- moving, frankly, just as fast as Red, if not faster. Time dilates during the actual action phase of Turn(), following an almost ebb and flow of slowing down and speeding up in time with your attacks.
Red's inability to react to her target pinging across the room is either an incredible limitation on Turn(), or it's a gameplay limitation to not make you feel like you're in the Matrix, rather than creating a perfect plan that's then executed flawlessly.
So, my options were thus: keep Turn() as it was, and don't allow Jaune to react to things that occur during Turn(), which could lead to some horror-show moments where you're just stuck on a path you cannot change, cannot redirect, only allowing you to fulfil your actions no matter how incredibly detrimental they've become to you since you started moving.
The other option was to turn Turn() into actual time-dilation that basically works on Superhot rules- time only moves when Jaune moves. The faster he acts, the faster the world reacts, though not, to any usable degree, for the most part. He still plans out his route, but he can change it and react to things as they need to be reacted to.
Because, you know, he's not fighting predictable robots in a cleanroom, and translating Transistor's Turn() with gameplay limitations to a text-based quest would be... it's not very narratively interesting, I think. Actions going off without a hitch and with no reaction generally isn't, especially from the protagonist's perspective.
My point is, Transistor's Turn() Function has always just been super-speed, just a specific kind of superspeed that involves the use of dilating time around your movements. It was never just "I do this and this and this, toki wa ugokidesu," and I was wrong to treat it like that initially. In retrospect, a full replay of Transistor would have been a good idea before I even started this quest, but goddammit, I've never thought more than five minutes ahead my entire life, I'm not starting now.
Also, I love that I finished the time stop sequence JUST as the linked song ended. Also really nice choice of track as well, got the nostalgia flowing for a sec.
You know, I was rereading the portion with Ozpin, and... The Invisitext towards the end of the Witchqueen Realisation repeated deicide. AKA the killing of a god.
...Do people think we can learn to kill a god with the Process?
Anyway, after Bandaid's initial burst of energy, starting with Ozpin as a topic has slowly gained the lead and is currently on track to win the vote. Voting closes at 8 pm GMT tonight.
Adhoc vote count started by Prok on Feb 22, 2022 at 5:05 AM, finished with 63 posts and 44 votes.
[X] Ozpin- "... Ozpin's an immortal wizard who wields magic. The Transistor broke because he used said magic to make it stop thinking after it tried to poke his soul a bunch. He's not mad, it's fine, they made up."
[X] Rip Off The Bandaid- "... Have any of you ever had a Witch-Queen dream?" -[X]"...and the worst part is, that's not the weirdest, worst, or even most important thing I discussed or experienced yesterday."
[X] Rip Off The Bandaid- "... Have any of you ever had a Witch-Queen dream?"
-[X]"...and the worst part is, that's not the weirdest, worst, or even most important thing I discussed or experienced yesterday."
[X] Ozpin- "... Ozpin's an immortal wizard who wields magic. The Transistor broke because he used said magic to make it stop thinking after it tried to poke his soul a bunch. He's not mad, it's fine, they made up."
You know, we really should code that semblance that we got from that healer teacher. We could likely even code it to combine with our Analysis partition to avoid energizing the harmful bacteria in the human body.
I thought Turn() was Jaune's function, an offshoot of Calculation. Since it's the one Function he tried to use before the Transistor was created, it'd almost have to be.
I thought Turn() was Jaune's function, an offshoot of Calculation. Since it's the one Function he tried to use before the Transistor was created, it'd almost have to be.
Could be that it's one of the few Functions that's a combination of two Semblances. With Jaune, he can actually keep up with the time slowing down, and with "Dio" we can do the actual timestop.
[X] Rip Off The Bandaid- "... Have any of you ever had a Witch-Queen dream?"
-[X]"...and the worst part is, that's not the weirdest, worst, or even most important thing I discussed or experienced yesterday."
Okay, full disclosure- that's a way better explanation than what I have planned. As for what I have planned, you'll find out in the Valentine's interlude. When's it going up, who knows, I fucking don't-
THERE'S NO WAY I'VE BEEN LIVING THROUGH A GLOBAL FUCKING PANDEMIC FOR ALMOST THREE YEARS GET ME OUT OF HERE I'M CLIMBING THE FUCKING WAAAAAAAALLS-
Ahem.
Voting is closed, talking about Ozpin wins. Update will be up nnnyyyeeeh not this week, lotta, lotta personal stuff going on, not much time for my passion projects.
Adhoc vote count started by Prok on Feb 22, 2022 at 6:25 PM, finished with 74 posts and 47 votes.
[X] Ozpin- "... Ozpin's an immortal wizard who wields magic. The Transistor broke because he used said magic to make it stop thinking after it tried to poke his soul a bunch. He's not mad, it's fine, they made up."
[X] Rip Off The Bandaid- "... Have any of you ever had a Witch-Queen dream?" -[X]"...and the worst part is, that's not the weirdest, worst, or even most important thing I discussed or experienced yesterday."
You are Jaune Arc and you're about to face your final test from Signal Academy. If you pass the test, you will be recommended to Beacon Academy. But you have nothing to worry about. For you have the Transistor. Hold it in is a RWBY/Transistor …