Which of the other starter choices do you want to see interludes from most?

  • Dishonored

    Votes: 3 7.0%
  • Legend Of Zelda

    Votes: 9 20.9%
  • Shadow Of Mordor

    Votes: 2 4.7%
  • Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann

    Votes: 4 9.3%
  • Preacher

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • JoJo's Bizarre Adventure

    Votes: 8 18.6%
  • Fist Of The North Star

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Kill Six Billion Demons

    Votes: 12 27.9%
  • The Zombie Knight

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Mob Psycho 100

    Votes: 2 4.7%
  • Author's Choice

    Votes: 3 7.0%

  • Total voters
    43
  • Poll closed .
It is entirely possible Arthur Watts was recruited late in the game, for one thing. The only confirmed involvement we have is after the fall of Beacon, even if some people think he's responsible for the Black Queen. We don't even know what his specialty is, it might not be coding. Personally I like the idea that Mercury, Cinder, Roman, or Emerald script-kiddied it together because they realized trying to outsource could blow the whole plan.
 
It is entirely possible Arthur Watts was recruited late in the game, for one thing. The only confirmed involvement we have is after the fall of Beacon, even if some people think he's responsible for the Black Queen. We don't even know what his specialty is, it might not be coding. Personally I like the idea that Mercury, Cinder, Roman, or Emerald script-kiddied it together because they realized trying to outsource could blow the whole plan.

No offense but think it would be dumb if just anyone can make a virus like that since that would mean that the people dealing with both public and military cyber security would be incompetent.
 
Congrats on page 100! That was one of the most precious moments I've ever read. Thank you for granting us the privilege of reading it.

Now keep those scary villains away from these precious students!
 
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It is entirely possible Arthur Watts was recruited late in the game, for one thing. The only confirmed involvement we have is after the fall of Beacon, even if some people think he's responsible for the Black Queen. We don't even know what his specialty is, it might not be coding. Personally I like the idea that Mercury, Cinder, Roman, or Emerald script-kiddied it together because they realized trying to outsource could blow the whole plan.
If you look at Cinder's scroll, there's a "W" when she's playing with the virus. Totally means Watts.

Since he's based on Victor Frankenstein; he's a multidisciplinary genius and all things involving electricity are a specialty of his.

No offense but think it would be dumb if just anyone can make a virus like that since that would mean that the people dealing with both public and military cyber security would be incompetent.
I MEAN--

I'm wondering how he reconciles working with Salem with having a family. (granted, the whole working with the monster trying to destroy the world is always a bit weird, but still)
Could be a Hadaly.
 
No offense but think it would be dumb if just anyone can make a virus like that since that would mean that the people dealing with both public and military cyber security would be incompetent.

Hardest part of making a virus is access. If Arthur is a multidisciplinary genius and is responsible for it, why did Cinder herself need to go for the physical access point? Why not let Emerald or Neo, the illusionists, do it? Why did they even need physical access if it was some masterwork of code?
 
I'm wondering how he reconciles working with Salem with having a family. (granted, the whole working with the monster trying to destroy the world is always a bit weird, but still)
Perhaps the same way people in power now reconcile not trying to stop global warming? Not caring about the long term effects, since by the time they really become a problem, they'll be dead anyways.
 
It is entirely possible Arthur Watts was recruited late in the game, for one thing. The only confirmed involvement we have is after the fall of Beacon, even if some people think he's responsible for the Black Queen. We don't even know what his specialty is, it might not be coding. Personally I like the idea that Mercury, Cinder, Roman, or Emerald script-kiddied it together because they realized trying to outsource could blow the whole plan.


Doesn't Raven refer to him as a 'disgraced atlasian doctor' and then Salem requests him to help Tryian with his tail. I kinda assumed he did some flesh graft research and maybe kinda stitched a grimm and human together to see what would happen. And there is a stylized W on Cinder's screen when she's using the black queen virus. So he's probably an older recruit and might have helped develop the maiden bug, or at least how it interfaces with a host.

speaking of Salem's council has there been any conjecture of what Tryian is based off of?
 
Hmm... If Watts is Victor Frankenstein we aren't constrained to classical puppy-kicking villainy. Hazel just wants revenge too, for a valid reason. I feel like the way he talks is important but I haven't read through my Grimm's Fairy Tales recently so I'm short on references.
 
I didn't say I agreed with his reason. I said it had validity, but I should have been more specific. It has internal validity. It makes sense, even though it's wrong.
 
The problem with that is that you can make radioactive Isotopes with a Mass accelerator. And well, you know the Sun? Understanding how the hell that works would be an interesting question I imagine. Or What the hell the difference be Helium and Di-hydrogen is. or tritium. Like, The hell's a Neutron? What happens when you smack together a pair of atoms Fast enough? What happens if you get atoms that are too big? There are simply so many basic questions that are answered fairly simply with an understanding of Radiation.And with their tech level... If they ask the question, they'll know the answer.

Actually, no, this makes even less sense since there are actually a lot of naturally occurring radioactive Isotopes, even at lower nuclei sizes. C-14 being a rather prominent one, for example. Like figuring out radiation just isn't that hard with the level of tech they have. They don't need Plutonium, or Uranium or any of that to find it.

All they have to do is smack two atoms together and see what happens. And There are a lot of pretty obvious questions that would lead to exactly that.
Ok, look, I'll admit- physics? Not my strong point. Like, at all. I failed second-year physics.

That's like bankrupting a casino, it's not possible. You can't do that.

Ok, work new information into the established explanation, I can do this-

They know about radiation. The problem is, as discussed before, the only things that give off radiation are kind of... unimpressive. Carbon dating? Useful, sure. X-rays? Yeah, they're pretty cool. Hell, x-rays barely count- most x-ray generators use tungsten for the anode because it has such a high melting point, but there's no radioactive substance involved, far as I can tell.

... But they're not nukes, y'know? There's nothing big. Remnant doesn't have an equivalent of Marie Curie, or Harry Daghlian, or Robert Oppenheimer, nobody's died of radiation poisoning on Remnant.

As for fission and fusion- the first is impossible to implement in even a theoretical sense, none of the existing elements are large enough to cause a chain reaction, and fusion is in pretty much the same state as it is in real life- possible, but far too expensive and not really efficient enough to make up for what's taken, outside of maybe one or two hopeful startups who are still in the teething problems stage.

Also, last I checked, the only person who has a proper plasma weapon is Penny's death ray. Neptune's weapon is a glorified taser, and I can't think of anything else that even comes close.

The problem is, when Dust is as abundant as it is, I mean, there are literal islands of the stuff, and it all burns the same, alternate energy sources just don't get the priority they should.

speaking of Salem's council has there been any conjecture of what Tryian is based off of?
In terms of story reference, the only thing I can think of would be The Scorpion And The Frog. I don't entirely know how that would translate into his backstory, but he's obviously too far gone to recognise there's something wrong with him or his views, let alone change who he is- everything he does is simply in his nature.

And frankly, I'm ok with that, it rounds out the team- Hazel has his reason for why he joined Salem, Cinder also has a reason, she's just more selfish about it, I suspect Watts, in canon, anyway, may subscribe to some form of nihilism, or perhaps just some sense of moral superiority, either way, out of the four he seems the most likely to be purely philosophically motivated, but Tyrian's... just batshit crazy. And I'm ok with that.

Some villains just want to steal forty cakes because they ran out of puppies to kick, and that's ok.

... Wait no-
 
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In terms of story reference, the only thing I can think of would be The Scorpion And The Frog. I don't entirely know how that would translate into his backstory, but he's obviously too far gone to recognise there's something wrong with him or his views, let alone change who he is- everything he does is simply in his nature.

And frankly, I'm ok with that, it rounds out the team- Hazel has his reason for why he joined Salem, Cinder also has a reason, she's just more selfish about it, I suspect Watts, in canon, anyway, may subscribe to some form of nihilism, or perhaps just some sense of moral superiority, either way, out of the four he seems the most likely to be purely philosophically motivated, but Tyrian's... just batshit crazy. And I'm ok with that.

Some villains just want to steal forty cakes because they ran out of puppies to kick, and that's ok.

... Wait no-

I like this, a lot of people expect every single villain to have a reason for all the terrible things they do when in reality there are people that are really just naturally assholes.
 
That was super cute, and I didn't even notice the subtle hints of DOOM foreshadowing until I read the other posts pointing it out.

It is kind of hard to reconcile someone having a loving family working for Salem (and not being coerced into it or anything). Given that she's, you know, hell-bent on conquering the world by storm (at best--at worst, she wants to wipe out all of humanity with the Grimm). I mean, sure, it could all be an act for him, but why would he even bother? The act gets him nothing if he has to put all of that time and effort into pretending to love and care for and support his family.

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You know, by the time Cinder makes her move, I wonder how the Process will be coming along. And how much of a spanner in the works Jaune/Transistor/Cell will be.

"A computer virus? How come I don't have a computer virus, Woody? Oh, wait, I DO."

*Transistor proceeds to hack ALL THE THINGS*
 
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It is kind of hard to reconcile someone having a loving family working for Salem (and not being coerced into it or anything). Given that she's, you know, hell-bent on conquering the world by storm (at best--at worst, she wants to wipe out all of humanity with the Grimm). I mean, sure, it could all be an act for him, but why would he even bother? The act gets him nothing if he has to put all of that time and effort into pretending to love and care for and support his family.
It kind of makes sense,from what @Prok said earlier about the predictions people have made.
Your sword told a man aware of Salem that the tech needed to begin to build it is half a millennium off, when the most optimistic predictions of humanity's downfall that he has to hand give them... maybe a century before the Grimm finally finished the job.

That was a simulation without the fall of Beacon, without Breach happening, without a Maiden having her soul ripped in half...

Blue just told the general of the Atlesian army that humanity would fall ten times over before they could get on a single teenage Huntsman's level.

Frankly, I'd need a freaking drink too.
If organics humanity is doomed, isn't it better to live on, even if it is as servants?

After all, the Grimm are relentless, Salem's plans are proceeding on schedule, and humanity remains divided.

In the long run, there's no hope other than surrender.
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Dream 20 21- The Cell The Passionflower.
And then some dumb kid in way over his head put a key in a lock, but the repercussions of that has only just begun.
 
Your sword told a man aware of Salem that the tech needed to begin to build it is half a millennium off, when the most optimistic predictions of humanity's downfall that he has to hand give them... maybe a century before the Grimm finally finished the job.

That was a simulation without the fall of Beacon, without Breach happening, without a Maiden having her soul ripped in half...

Blue just told the general of the Atlesian army that humanity would fall ten times over before they could get on a single teenage Huntsman's level.

Frankly, I'd need a freaking drink too.
Wait, what? Is this a thing from Season 4?

Before the fall of Beacon, it seemed like the Kingdoms were holding out just fine, with substantial tech advances improving humanity's position. The Paladin, in particular, was pretty promising. As was Penny. The Breach was handled with minimal casualties (astoundingly enough).

And then there is the Color War, which was basically World War 2 in Remnant. And if humanity survived and flourished after that, surely it was better off after decades of peace and cooperation and tech advancement?

And, well, while it might be saddening that the tech to build another Transistor is 500 years off, Transistor is ludicrously advanced. Be glad that you even have one on your side--especially when that one can help you cheat on your path to reverse-engineer itself.
 
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