Hereafter [Worm x Fate/Grand Order]

Good chapter, and yeah Mash and the Twins are going to need all the hugs. That said I really, really, want to see Taylor explain her powers and background to the others in the next few chapters.
I found a couple of good-ish spaces to address that elephant without actually derailing some important parts of their relationship developments for later. Some part of it is covered next chapter, but not with who or how you're expecting, I think.
 
Is no one going to mention the obvious?

When Mash pulled out the Nanothorn Dagger, she started channeling Taylor.

And I don't just mean behaviorally, something mystical was happening there too.

It reminds me of Mash's initial failure to invoke her Noble Phantasm.



(Also to state the obvious, Jalter and Mash both threw away their own Legends in that final clash: Jalter threw away the Banner, Mash threw away her Shield.)
 
I mean Merlin only helped save the world like 4 times is all, can't imagine why someone would respect him...

He ruined Morgan's life when he never bothered to explain himself, he ruined Artoria's life when he didn't teach her how to properly interact with people, he ruined Mordred's life and Camelot by proxy, and then there's what he did to poor Doctor Roman. (Even if the whole mess was Roman's fault for not bothering to explain himself properly.)

 
He ruined Morgan's life when he never bothered to explain himself, he ruined Artoria's life when he didn't teach her how to properly interact with people, he ruined Mordred's life and Camelot by proxy, and then there's what he did to poor Doctor Roman.

Roman's broken heart aside, I don't know how he could have helped Artoria. He's the first person(read: half-incubus) that doesn't understand people, and it wasn't like he could help her too much: Camelot was destined to fall, and still, he mourns her to this day. Arturia and Merlin do like each other. His relationship with Morgan is dicy, but love-story aside, Morgan would have always hated Artoria for what she represents: a king that took her place as rightful ruler of Britain. And how is he at fault for Mordred? I don't think he envisioned her conception, her upbringing was wholly Morgan's fault, and between her mother and father, it doesn't surprise me who she latched to. Honestly, Camelot biggest problem was that everyone was a drama queen.
 
I don't know how he could have helped Artoria. He's the first person(read: half-incubus) that doesn't understand people, and it wasn't like he could help her too much: Camelot was destined to fall, and still, he mourns her to this day.

Yes, but he KNEW he didn't fully understand people, and he STILL didn't bother to either teach her properly or find someone trustworthy who could.

His relationship with Morgan is dicy, but love-story aside, Morgan would have always hated Artoria for what she represents: a king that took her place as rightful ruler of Britain.

He could have at least explained to Morgan why she couldn't be allowed to become King (she was a Fairy, and didn't have a human mindset anymore than he did). If nothing else, it would have helped her mental state, preventing her from developing magical DID.

And how is he at fault for Mordred? I don't think he envisioned her conception, her upbringing was wholly Morgan's fault, and between her mother and father, it doesn't surprise me who she latched to.

Artoria never explained herself properly to Mordred because she didn't know how; she didn't even know enough to realize the problem. And that's Merlin's fault for not making sure she knew that sort of thing. And Morgan wouldn't have gone so far as to create Mordred if Merlin and Uther had just bothered to explain things to her properly.

Camelot was destined to fall

Of course it was. That didn't mean it needed to fall to civil war like it did. It could have simply dissolved semi-peacefully, or fallen to the Anglo-Saxons.
 
Jeez, Mozart was done real dirty here. No use in the earlier fights, no Marie to bounce off and being about as useful as a flashbang in the final fight.
 
He ruined Morgan's life when he never bothered to explain himself

Not even sure what you mean here. It was Uther who decided to go with Arturia over Morgan, Merlin had nothing to do with that besides the obvious.

he ruined Artoria's life when he didn't teach her how to properly interact with people

Arturia had a guardian and a brother whose job it was to teach her how to socialize. I don't know what you're expecting from a man who literally couldn't understand human emotion.

he ruined Mordred's life and Camelot by proxy

Morgan ruined Mordred's life and Camelot was doomed since Day 1, which Merlin warned Arturia about but she did it anyway.
 
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She's about as much of a mage stereotype as Rin is. She (kind of) tries to talk the talk, but she's a big softy at heart. Good thing her dad's dead though, that would've gone poorly.
...I'd say that while Olga and Rin share superficial similarities, they are still different* in that Rin is explicitly described to be 'held back' from becoming a 'true' magus by being 'fundamentally good' at her core, whereas Olga has not received any such (official) distinction.

In fact, looked at from a somewhat uncharitable perspective, the one thing Olga wants above all else is 'to be recognized for her talent and/or be praised for it', and NOT so much being 'fundamentally good' and/or 'having good intentions for what she does, deep down'.

* - At least according to Word of Nasu.
 
As much as I do enjoy someone getting an arrow through the torso right when they're about to start Phase 2, I hope that won't just keep working on everyone like how a certain story had Hassan of the Cursed-Arm just Zabaniya all the problems away. Still a pretty good final battle, did a good job showing the desperation and brutality on both sides, and I appreciate Taylor's horror at Gilles and his bullshit. I'm also glad that you're doing the thing where contracted servants can be taken back to Chaldeas since that's always made more narrative sense to me.
 
...I'd say that while Olga and Rin share superficial similarities, they are still different* in that Rin is explicitly described to be 'held back' from becoming a 'true' magus by being 'fundamentally good' at her core, whereas Olga has not received any such (official) distinction.

In fact, looked at from a somewhat uncharitable perspective, the one thing Olga wants above all else is 'to be recognized for her talent and/or be praised for it', and NOT so much being 'fundamentally good' and/or 'having good intentions for what she does, deep down'.

* - At least according to Word of Nasu.
True. It's not actually clear how much of a "good person" Olga actually is. From what little we've seen of her, she could range from basically Rin, or really only in it for the recognition. That what she wants more than anything is to be praised is not inherently at odds with being a good person, it just means that we don't know how far down the rabbit hole she would be willing to go in order to reach that goal.
 
...I'd say that while Olga and Rin share superficial similarities, they are still different* in that Rin is explicitly described to be 'held back' from becoming a 'true' magus by being 'fundamentally good' at her core, whereas Olga has not received any such (official) distinction.

In fact, looked at from a somewhat uncharitable perspective, the one thing Olga wants above all else is 'to be recognized for her talent and/or be praised for it', and NOT so much being 'fundamentally good' and/or 'having good intentions for what she does, deep down'.

* - At least according to Word of Nasu.
Well that's certainly a question in canon, but in this fic that's mostly been answered by how she handled Taylor. And even in canon I'm pretty sure we have confirmation she was horrified by a lot of the things her father was doing when she found out about them, so even in canon if she's not quite as good as Rin, she's probably better than 'the stereotypical magus.'
 
Well that's certainly a question in canon, but in this fic that's mostly been answered by how she handled Taylor. And even in canon I'm pretty sure we have confirmation she was horrified by a lot of the things her father was doing when she found out about them, so even in canon if she's not quite as good as Rin, she's probably better than 'the stereotypical magus.'
When Olga found out about the experiments that made Mash, she was sick over it, and she became anorexic with worry over whether or not Mash blamed her for what her father made Mash go through.

In regards to Olga's desire for recognition, this is less of a magus thing and more that her father doesn't care about her. At all. In FGO timelines, he basically abandons Olga to go play savior of the world in Chaldea, and in non-FGO Fate timelines (like Case Files), he eventually gets disgusted with her "lack of talent," and he abandons her to be raised by a nanny. So you see, all that Olga really wants is her father's approval.

She's a little spoiled from the relative privilege she was born into and she's harsh on everyone, but that's only because the person Olga is strictest with is herself. Whenever anyone looks at her, she feels as though she is constantly being judged for her inadequacies, and as a result, she lashes out by being even more of a hardass. Because her insecurities make her prickly and temperamental, the staff at Chaldea largely view her as being stiff and cruel when she's just trying to live up to the impossible pedestal she puts her heritage and her family's accomplishments on.

None of this is anything I added for Hereafter, BTW. This is all stuff that comes out either in supplementary materials or in alternate timelines.

What changed for this Olga is Taylor. They're not friends in the traditional sense, but the nature of their connection means that Taylor is probably the single healthiest and most supportive relationship Olga has. That's a little sad when you think about it. At least Case Files Olga has Reines.
 
Gotta love complex characters. Even straightforward ones like Mash can be very complex in their apparent cinnamon simplicity.

It's one of the great things about the Nasuverse when well written, the depth and complexity of characters.
 
She's about as much of a mage stereotype as Rin is. She (kind of) tries to talk the talk, but she's a big softy at heart. Good thing her dad's dead though, that would've gone poorly.

Of course, but she her foremost instinct to strangers, servant or not, is to act like a magus, which is going to be more relevant to her initial relationship with Bradamante than anything else.

That said, I should have clarified my initial statement more, but whatever, it's there.
 
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What changed for this Olga is Taylor. They're not friends in the traditional sense, but the nature of their connection means that Taylor is probably the single healthiest and most supportive relationship Olga has. That's a little sad when you think about it. At least Case Files Olga has Reines.

Then you'd better have them summon Reines ASAP, hadn't you? And Waver of course; gotta give Reines her favorite chewtoy.
 
Then you'd better have them summon Reines ASAP, hadn't you? And Waver of course; gotta give Reines her favorite chewtoy.
I'm not sure how much of a home run that would be, since the iterations of Waver and Reines that the Counter Force highlighted as "shove some guys into these guys" are from a different timeline and also the past? Considering Olga's personality I feel like having a young stranger who has a lot of (but not perfect) insight into your general deal might be more off-putting than reassuring, no matter how desperate she is.
 
I'm not sure how much of a home run that would be, since the iterations of Waver and Reines that the Counter Force highlighted as "shove some guys into these guys" are from a different timeline and also the past? Considering Olga's personality I feel like having a young stranger who has a lot of (but not perfect) insight into your general deal might be more off-putting than reassuring, no matter how desperate she is.

They may be from different timelines, but she doubtlessly knows of them, if not to the same extent as in Case Files. They aren't total strangers.
 
They may be from different timelines, but she doubtlessly knows of them, if not to the same extent as in Case Files. They aren't total strangers.
Fair point with Reines at least, being the scion of the El-Melloi house. Like I'm not really sure how familiar magi from big houses are with each other but it's not unreasonable that Olga would at least recognize her. Waver is a bit questionable since in this timeline it kind of sounds like the first and only Grail War took place in the 2000s where Solomon did some top-tier hax so he might never have had the opportunity to become much of anything, but there's too many variables to say one way or the other.
 
the person Olga is strictest with is herself.
Objection!

Olga attempts to be strictest with herself, Olga desires to emotionally mature her suffering into self-discipline, but Olga's complete lack of role models and personal understanding of self discipline (beyond imitating the strictures of the Magi like how Rin does) and lack of achievable goals, it all traps Olga in a cycle of unconstructive self-flagellation which naturally turns into an even split between depressed self-pity and projected restrictions onto the world around her.

Taylor is the first real opportunity Olga has ever had to really learn how to turn that desire for meaningful self discipline into a productive path that might lead Olga out of her downward spiral, as Taylor's influence is untainted by emotional and social associations with Olga's prime example of toxic self discipline through disappointment, her father.
 
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The fight is nice. Mash's reaction to her first kill means she needs all the hugs. Sure she seems pulled together, but she definitely needs them hugs. I think something should probably be done on Taylor's realization on what she could potentially become if she didn't push beyond her grief and instead wallow in it. That's hitting pretty close to home by her own silent admission.

Next up, no Lev... well, that's fine i suppose. Butterfly will butterfly. And despite how anti-climatic it is, EMIYA not taking the shot would definitely not be in character.

Bardamente is a nice surprise though. You said she slots in right nicely, and i can totally see it. A last minute addition, but somehow she just works... apparently like all them Paladins... somehow. Either way, I kind of picture her literally just straight out bulldoze through all them flying lizards outside to explain why she's splattered in blood. She can totally do it too even without her NP active. Now who gets the honor of getting currently the sanest Paladin added to their retinue?
Yeah. The Maid of Orléans who inspired a nation… I could see that.
Taylor has witness Jeanne's splendor, so now she can totally be under her NP's protection. Taylor may not believe in the Christian God, but iirc one of the conditions is to witness Jeanne's splendor. I think this fits. Do correct me if i'm wrong though. As far as i recall we never once seen her NP activated in this Singularity (even though i would totally abuse it for a stall team if i can).
I mean Merlin only helped save the world like 4 times is all, can't imagine why someone would respect him...
Respect the name for the Good deeds he done. Suplex the man for the Shit situations he engineered. Just because he is ultimately on Humanity's side does not mean we should just forgive him for all them pranks and plots and schemes. I'll forgive him for somehow convincing a Rhondo-Arturia to go on a vacation for Bunny Arturia though, but only that one!
 
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