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Were all the Celtic heroes going to be complete battle junkies?

Were all the Celtic heroes going to be complete battle junkies?

Corrected that for you.
And the answer is yes.


"At that height, I could have given us a look at four kilometers out in any direction, down to the number of buttons on the enemy's shirt."

Atmospheric conditions and obstructions permitting.

In fact, she looked almost like she would spill out of her top at any moment, but some mystical force seemed to be keeping it all neatly contained.

Well the Throne of Heroes is rated T for teen.

Really, Rika? She couldn't have made a reference with more class than Terminator?

"Senpai?" Mash asked curiously.

"I've been waiting to use that line since Fuyuki," Rika reported smugly.

Yes, she's been planning that terrible reference for that long and never came up with anything better.
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Fun chapter as always, should've freaking known Rika would be the one to say that line though.
 
"Anti-magecraft runic spell. Disrupts all forms of magecraft in range."

She kicked off the ground into a sprint, hefting up her red spear.

"Which means you lose!"
I'm not too sure about that. For one, can an external anti-magecraft field prevent internal magecraft utilized by a Servant with (admittedly low) Magic Resistance? That spear might find itself scraping off an arm made of swords.
Secondly EMIYA went rounds with Illya's Berserkacles and killed him six different times. Not "took six of his lives," but took a life six times over. EMIYA has more staying power than anybody ever gives him credit for.
It'd be hilarious if he comments on it.
Rika: "EMIYA, are you... are you sulking?"
EMIYA: "I suppose I am, but is it too much to ask that somebody have some faith in me? My enemies, my rivals, my teammates, even my own Master all doubt my ability to take a hit. I killed Heracles six times before he killed me once! And I can assure you he wasn't holding back on me until then."
Aife: "Heracles? I know that name. You fought him and killed him?"
EMIYA: "Six times. He comes back to life and becomes immune to whatever you killed him with eleven times before he stays dead."
Rika: "Whoa. I didn't know my Servant was such a badass."
Aife: "Six times... So Mr Archer, how do you feel about older women?"
EMIYA: "What?"
Rika: "What?"
Mash: "What?"
Arash: "What?"
Lancelot: "Hmmm?!"
Fou: "Fou?"
Connla: "Ew! Mooooooooooom!!!"
Taylor: "...Of course her reaction to finding out he fought and killed Heracles multiple times over is arousal. Fucking celts."
Boudica: "Hey! ...Ok, so it is attractive, but lay off the stereotyping."
 
wierdly enough i think taylor would do really well with jack, being a 'mother' to children wouldn't exactly be new to her, she took all those orphans in after all, and like, she did a whole lot to free dinah, she's very likely to feel wierd about it, but still work extremely well with jack, especially since jack is also a knife wielding fighter who is ruthless in combat. the more i think about it, the more i wonder if taylors compatibility summon list would have jack as an option
 
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wierldy enough i think taylor would do really well with jack, being a 'mother' to children wouldn't exactly be new to her, she took all those orphans in after all, and like, she did a whole lot to free dinah, she's very likely to feel wierd about it, but still work extremely well with jack, especially since jack is also a knife wielding fighter who is ruthless in combat. the more i think about it, the more i wonder if taylors compatibility summon list would have jack as an option
Taylor and EMIYA become Chaldea's parents to the kid Servants.
Rika: "Ok, I've come to expect EMIYA to just have all these domestic skills because he's a legendary house husband, but Senpai?! What kind of life did you live that you know all of this?"
 
wierldy enough i think taylor would do really well with jack, being a 'mother' to children wouldn't exactly be new to her, she took all those orphans in after all, and like, she did a whole lot to free dinah, she's very likely to feel wierd about it, but still work extremely well with jack, especially since jack is also a knife wielding fighter who is ruthless in combat. the more i think about it, the more i wonder if taylors compatibility summon list would have jack as an option

Not really the extent of Dinah was freeing her and having a brief walk and talk with her hardly anything involving being a mother the orphans similarly got handed off to other people to deal with. Overall drill sergeant is more fitting her roll when you consider the Chicago wards where she actually had 2 odd years in that position as the team leader while obsessing over the s9 and upcoming end of the world note as well that's the roll she's largely fallen into with the twins and Mash though she is using past experience to lighten up a bit.
 
I'm not too sure about that. For one, can an external anti-magecraft field prevent internal magecraft utilized by a Servant with (admittedly low) Magic Resistance? That spear might find itself scraping off an arm made of swords.
Secondly EMIYA went rounds with Illya's Berserkacles and killed him six different times. Not "took six of his lives," but took a life six times over. EMIYA has more staying power than anybody ever gives him credit for.
It'd be hilarious if he comments on it.
Rika: "EMIYA, are you... are you sulking?"
EMIYA: "I suppose I am, but is it too much to ask that somebody have some faith in me? My enemies, my rivals, my teammates, even my own Master all doubt my ability to take a hit. I killed Heracles six times before he killed me once! And I can assure you he wasn't holding back on me until then."
Aife: "Heracles? I know that name. You fought him and killed him?"
EMIYA: "Six times. He comes back to life and becomes immune to whatever you killed him with eleven times before he stays dead."
Rika: "Whoa. I didn't know my Servant was such a badass."
Aife: "Six times... So Mr Archer, how do you feel about older women?"
EMIYA: "What?"
Rika: "What?"
Mash: "What?"
Arash: "What?"
Lancelot: "Hmmm?!"
Fou: "Fou?"
Connla: "Ew! Mooooooooooom!!!"
Taylor: "...Of course her reaction to finding out he fought and killed Heracles multiple times over is arousal. Fucking celts."
Boudica: "Hey! ...Ok, so it is attractive, but lay off the stereotyping."

Like, pretty sure the issue is his mana. He's not in his Reality Marble, which nullifies the mana cost of projectiles (assuming he has the mana to maintain the Reality Marble itself), and he doesn't have the absolute beast that is Rin Tohsaka to fuel his projections. Even then, he tries to avoid too many expensive projectiles, preferring normal arrows and Kanshou and Bakuya, which are both powerful enough that they are pretty solid NPs but also cheap enough he can replace them if he's outmatched.

Which, like, he IS outmatched. Berserkles is raw force, but aside from his Instinct he doesn't keep his skills in the same way Lancelot did, hence why EMIYA, who has a combat style built around manipulating the opponent's attacks and then punishing them when they fall prey to the manipulations, was able to do so well against him. It also required Breaking his NPs AND invoking a Rank-Up ability, essentially making them equivalent to if the actual heroic spirit who made them Broke them. All of that requires a fuck ton of mana, but not (relatively) a lot of skill in combat. Contrast this with Aife, who is above Cu in terms of power. Cu, who would win every fight with Archer if they both have equal amounts of mana, master compatibility, and so forth (remember, Cu fought the entire 5th war with essentially two hobbles, Kotomine being a terrible Master for him and also limiting his access to mana). Unless EMIYA invokes his Reality Marble or pulls out a specific Noble Phantasm that would do particularly well against Aife, she should win 9/10 times.

And since the fight isn't to the death, that stops EMIYA from pulling out his strongest shit, so he's even MORE at a disadvantage. Him barraging her with exploding swords is terribly inefficient in terms of mana, but it was the only way to get out of melee. If he had stayed in melee, he would have flat-out died.
 
Not really the extent of Dinah was freeing her and having a brief walk and talk with her hardly anything involving being a mother the orphans similarly got handed off to other people to deal with. Overall drill sergeant is more fitting her roll when you consider the Chicago wards where she actually had 2 odd years in that position as the team leader while obsessing over the s9 and upcoming end of the world note as well that's the roll she's largely fallen into with the twins and Mash though she is using past experience to lighten up a bit.
i mentioned dinah more as an example of the sheer length she'll go to save a kid. and even if she didn't personally interact with the orphans like a direct parent, she still took care of them. is what i was trying to point out. she has parallels and experience that make it weirdly fitting. the fact she never actually had any individuals she treated like her children doesn't really change that she has gone lengths to save and protect children and ensure they're taken care of. jack calling her mama would be just a step further of what she was already doing.
 
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Not really the extent of Dinah was freeing her and having a brief walk and talk with her hardly anything involving being a mother the orphans similarly got handed off to other people to deal with. Overall drill sergeant is more fitting her roll when you consider the Chicago wards where she actually had 2 odd years in that position as the team leader while obsessing over the s9 and upcoming end of the world note as well that's the roll she's largely fallen into with the twins and Mash though she is using past experience to lighten up a bit.
She didn't hand them off as much as one would think. We see in Ward that Aiden at least had a strong connection to Taylor and she did do things with and take care of the children. That's like one of my biggest gripes about post Levi BB, the legal powers that be were doing less to help in Skitter's territory than she was. Even going so far as to make the people's lives harder instead of helping them.
I get it that things probably weren't so idyllic in the other territories, but cutting off aid and sending Dragon mechs to attack Skitter and harass the people of her territory? Bit of advice, PRT, when your citizens are willing to attack your own forces in defense of a "warlord" that has "taken" territory from you maybe you should reconsider your approach to governance and keeping order.

Like, pretty sure the issue is his mana. He's not in his Reality Marble, which nullifies the mana cost of projectiles (assuming he has the mana to maintain the Reality Marble itself), and he doesn't have the absolute beast that is Rin Tohsaka to fuel his projections. Even then, he tries to avoid too many expensive projectiles, preferring normal arrows and Kanshou and Bakuya, which are both powerful enough that they are pretty solid NPs but also cheap enough he can replace them if he's outmatched.

Which, like, he IS outmatched. Berserkles is raw force, but aside from his Instinct he doesn't keep his skills in the same way Lancelot did, hence why EMIYA, who has a combat style built around manipulating the opponent's attacks and then punishing them when they fall prey to the manipulations, was able to do so well against him. It also required Breaking his NPs AND invoking a Rank-Up ability, essentially making them equivalent to if the actual heroic spirit who made them Broke them. All of that requires a fuck ton of mana, but not (relatively) a lot of skill in combat. Contrast this with Aife, who is above Cu in terms of power. Cu, who would win every fight with Archer if they both have equal amounts of mana, master compatibility, and so forth (remember, Cu fought the entire 5th war with essentially two hobbles, Kotomine being a terrible Master for him and also limiting his access to mana). Unless EMIYA invokes his Reality Marble or pulls out a specific Noble Phantasm that would do particularly well against Aife, she should win 9/10 times.

And since the fight isn't to the death, that stops EMIYA from pulling out his strongest shit, so he's even MORE at a disadvantage. Him barraging her with exploding swords is terribly inefficient in terms of mana, but it was the only way to get out of melee. If he had stayed in melee, he would have flat-out died.
His issue was he was pushing Rika too much and hesitated for a moment when Rika started to falter. Then Aife made a quick and dirty anti magecraft field that took away all his access to his weapons and any external magecraft. But that doesn't mean he was completely helpless. He has Magic Resistance: D, Primordial Runes or not Aife didn't scrawl out a high class bounded field in a split second of opportunity. Now EMIYA didn't have anything that could stop her charge, but he does still have his Reality Marble, Eye of the Mind, and the element of surprise because Aife already called GG and committed to her finishing blow. What does she do when her spear strikes a body of literal steel and scapes off? Suddenly EMIYA's in her guard and she's entirely over extended and out of stance. He's hurt, but we know he can take a beating from the worst and keep on fighting the good fight. EMIYA strikes Aife, swords bursting out of his arm, and Aife does not have a layer of sub-dermal armor to protect her. Blade to the neck, match EMIYA. GG. 9 times out of ten she wins vs EMIYA, but this time she underestimated, overcommitted, and lost in a single exchange. EMIYA'll need some healing because he's got a big gash in his chest and his arm is now raw hamburger and barbed wire, but the biggest threat has been neutralized.
 
i mentioned dinah more as an example of the sheer length she'll go to save a kid. and even if she didn't personally interact with the orphans like a direct parent, she still took care of them. is what i was trying to point out. she has parallels and experience that make it weirdly fitting. the fact she never actually had any individuals she treated like her children doesn't really change that she has gone lengths to save and protect children and ensure they're taken care of. jack calling her mama would be just a step further of what she was already doing.

My point is its a stretch and kind've a big one at that to stretch that to mother its more orphanage supplier than anything not even matron. Additionally role wise its just drowned under other things like the drill sergeant time and if we're going to such a stretch you have to consider the baby killer thing ( although I don't hold that against her nearly as much as most in the fandom) if for no other reason than someone would bring it up.

Though I will admit there is also a knee jerk dislike of Jack there because I've actually read what's been translated of Apocrypha's manga and light novel and I honestly hate how much people whitewash Jack and ignore canon.
 
Though I will admit there is also a knee jerk dislike of Jack there because I've actually read what's been translated of Apocrypha's manga and light novel and I honestly hate how much people whitewash Jack and ignore canon.
And considering the very easy mental associations Taylor might have comparing her to both Jack Slash and Bonesaw would make things real awkward for Taylor.
 
He did not, however, leave without offering a parting warning to Aífe: that if Mash's vitals got anywhere near the red, he was sending the rest of our Servants in as backup, no matter what she thought about her test of our strength.

Aífe had only offered him a smile and said, "Don't threaten me with a good time, Doctor."
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Were all the Celtic heroes going to be complete battle junkies?
Any time I read battle junkies I feel I'm in a yojou senki fic.
"I see," said Aífe. "So, you specialize in familiars, then. Some form of golem?"
Nah, she specializes in eye spells. Destroying them mostly.
"A shame." Emiya shrugged. "At that height, I could have given us a look at four kilometers out in any direction, down to the number of buttons on the enemy's shirt."

"Wow. Four kilometers? That's amazing!" said Rika.

Arash's mouth twitched like he wanted to say something, but he kept it shut.
Arash: How cute, you're limited by the horizon. Can't you even tell the weave of their clothes?
It was almost like Arash was determined to prove he didn't need his Noble Phantasm to be an effective force on the battlefield, whether that was at close ranges or long.
I mean his Noble Phantasm is a suicide attack right? Yeah, kinda needs to prove that
Mash hefted her shield
What was Mash doing this whole time? Considering Arash seemed to be handily beating Boudica I bet Emiya would have appreciated the support.
 
I mean, you can say 2 avg Japanese teens from 2015 are super interested in an American cartoon / comic from the 80s. That's fine. But it sounds less likely than just them having some vague recollection of the movies and that's about it. I don't particularly care. It's a small part of the chapter and I can overlook it. But it's definitely a weird bit to add that seems out of character and adds nothing to the story. To me, it was jarring and felt like a series of random forum quotes over genuine character interaction. That's all.
 
I mean, you can say 2 avg Japanese teens from 2015 are super interested in an American cartoon / comic from the 80s. That's fine. But it sounds less likely than just them having some vague recollection of the movies and that's about it. I don't particularly care. It's a small part of the chapter and I can overlook it. But it's definitely a weird bit to add that seems out of character and adds nothing to the story. To me, it was jarring and felt like a series of random forum quotes over genuine character interaction. That's all.
I mean they could've just started out fans of Japanese super robot shows and branched out into similar foreign media over time. The inverse of American anime fans. If I had to pick some American media that I'd expect to appeal to Japanese teenagers Transformers would probably be pretty high on that list.
 
I mean, you can say 2 avg Japanese teens from 2015 are super interested in an American cartoon / comic from the 80s. That's fine. But it sounds less likely than just them having some vague recollection of the movies and that's about it. I don't particularly care. It's a small part of the chapter and I can overlook it. But it's definitely a weird bit to add that seems out of character and adds nothing to the story. To me, it was jarring and felt like a series of random forum quotes over genuine character interaction. That's all.
Transformers actually has a long-running history of airing in Japan, to the point where there are multiple entire shows that were Japan-exclusive for a long time before getting Western subtitle releases (I think some still are JP-only?) and between Beast Machines and the movies IIRC all of the cartoons are dubbed anime originally produced for Japanese audiences.
 
Transformers actually has a long-running history of airing in Japan, to the point where there are multiple entire shows that were Japan-exclusive for a long time before getting Western subtitle releases (I think some still are JP-only?) and between Beast Machines and the movies IIRC all of the cartoons are dubbed anime originally produced for Japanese audiences.
I remember hearing something about one of the series having inter species relationships (human/cybertronian).
 
I mean, you can say 2 avg Japanese teens from 2015 are super interested in an American cartoon / comic from the 80s. That's fine. But it sounds less likely than just them having some vague recollection of the movies and that's about it. I don't particularly care. It's a small part of the chapter and I can overlook it. But it's definitely a weird bit to add that seems out of character and adds nothing to the story. To me, it was jarring and felt like a series of random forum quotes over genuine character interaction. That's all.

Wow. You, uh, apparently don't know that Transformers was created in Japan? And that there was a ton of different series for Transformers. I mean, seriously, Transformers isn't some 80's American Cartoon. Transformers was made in Japan, has had multiple series created in Japan, and Transformers is basically Japanese. Like, a lot of the cartoons was made for Japan and was later dubbed and played for the US afterwards.

It is actually weird to me that you are weirded out by this. I would have figured that someone that really likes the Fate series would have at least known that Transformers was Japanese.

But, yeah, go out and do some research on this. Basically, if I remember right, they basically had this idea for transforming toys and created the cartoon to advertise/sell the toy. And it became super successful.
 
It occurs to me now that there might be ramifications of Romani's Ring being said outloud within the gaze of Beast 1; considering he was underestimated so by Flauros and with the glove on they couldn't visually identify it on the holograms. And that since Flauros on behalf of Gotiea ensured that none of the Demon Pillars and by extension itself can see into Chaldea. As a part of failsafe measures to deal with any rebelling Pillars presumably to deal with either during their remaking of History, or some other anomaly caused an error in their cohesion.

They would thusly be unable to even spiritually detect it was a Ring of Solomon, and during the final battle I doubt the Collective would take the time to parse every single NP in an Army of Servants. Only to somehow find this one anomaly that belongs to a Human that Flauros didn't originally account much for.

So I'd see less of an arrogance and more a prioritization of their assists and battle capacity. Even then with that single mention I don't think much would change, barring them being overly paranoid or something of that nature for some reason regarding him. Since I can't recall Romani's Ring ever being brought in the mobile game until the very end when he sacrifices himself.
 
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Basically, if I remember right, they basically had this idea for transforming toys and created the cartoon to advertise/sell the toy. And it became super successful.
More the other way around IIRC. Different lines of existing transforming toys and they made the up the cartoon story line to unify them, then added more when it took off. That's why you have the mixed scales/size changing and oddballs like Shockwave and Jetfire licensed from other companies.
 
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