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Hereafter [Worm x Fate/Grand Order]

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AltF4152 said:
Chairs are overrated.

This made me remember that time that Dragon, Defiant, Clockblocker and Kid Win tried to apprehend her at Arcadia and sat at the desk to make herself look more vulnerable as a psychological play, while taking down Sere and Adamant before they even reached the schoold.



They never told her about Brian, Lisa lied to her about it so she wouldn't break.

It happened shortly after she almost commited suicide because Danny probably died after the tsunami that hit Brockton Bay during GM, which killed Emma.
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By the end of it, Taylor is actually fairly sure he's dead, but she can't bring herself to confirm it. She specifically stops herself from checking, just so that she can hang onto that barest thread of uncertainty in the midst of the fighting. Two years after Gold Morning, she still doesn't know for sure one way or the other, but she's had time to accept that he's likely gone, and that one way or the other, she's never going to see him again.
 
Fun chapter, I wasn't expecting Taylor to do the performance review in the simulation though. But it was handled well nonetheless.
 
Good debrief for the twins. She definitely need to do a session where the enemy Servant is all about being Charismatic or Talk no Jutsu. Shakespeare can help with that. That said they probably need to start the twins on anti-hypnosis training too maybe? Or mental resistance at least. Eh, one thing at a time. Rushing things aren't good, and somethings just can't be rushed as Da Vinci-chan said.

I am also with the twins. If i personally experience All The Bugs like they did, i would want All The Showers too... Ew... EMIYA's cooking will probably help sooth things over.
James D. Fawkes said:
Taylor, by contrast, can sometimes fight me a little.
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(jk)You should feel proud then! You get her attitude down so well that she is actually resisting you!(/jk)

Jokes aside, I'm curious if it is because you're trying to portray her a certain way that makes things difficult? Or is there another reason for that?
 
Why are they acting like the distance effects the trapping time and might not be enough for the church if they went straight there and she was there? Taylor had 30 mins lead lets say it takes 5 to get to the centre (tho she can start scouting and trapping as soon as its in her range) that gives her 25 mins to trap and then the 5 mins for the twins to get there. Now for comparison lets say it takes her the full 30 mins to get the church into range she still has the 30 mins it takes for the twins to get there to trap it except with the added bonus that she's faster and fitter than the twins so her journey time is probably less especially since she can afford to tire herself running since she doesn't have to worry about anything else and has the time for the twins to make the journey to recover and she'll have a larger swarm to draw on from running through the city so could get more done.
 
I think part of that is the church just isn't a very big place. With the way Taylor went about the exercise the church won't give her as much room to work with. I could be totally wrong though and OP just choose it with a coin toss (not likely), but that's what i think contributed partly to where she set up.

She also promised not to go biblical plague on them (yet), so even if she collected more swarm it wouldn't be used?
 
Great chapter all around, but what jumped at me the most is the talk with Da Vinci. Taylor reads unusually emotional and impatient in her inquiries about the status of The Project. She cares deeply about Olga and, what is rare of Taylor, makes no attempt to hide it from Da Vinci. I find it adorable.
Fingers crossed for their reunion some time after the next Singularity.
 
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The church isn't that big but it has a basement and is on a hill not to mention the swarm can still be used as a lesson they'd probably only be expecting the building itself to be trapped but Taylor could trap the surrounding area she could even have repeated her trick here and actually been in the graveyard near the church rather than in it, it is worth pointing out after all that in addition to the reasons mentioned in the fic some casters would have other factors influencing their base's location such as surrounding resources such as a Druid preferring being in nature.
 
I was going through the reviews on ffn, and found an interesting one.

Couldn't Olga just be jacked in to the simulation if it's the realistic already while waiting for her body to reassimilate?

Narratively, it sucks since her revival gives a clear short term goal that the mcs are working towards, but yeah.
 
And now I want Jules Gabriel Verne as a servant. He not only basically invented science fiction but his books were as scientificaly accurate as he could make them as the time of writing. So he not only invented science fiction but realistic or "hard" science fiction. Sure not all his writings were super realistic but his most famous are.
 
Pinklestia said:
And now I want Jules Gabriel Verne as a servant. He not only basically invented science fiction but his books were as scientificaly accurate as he could make them as the time of writing. So he not only invented science fiction but realistic or "hard" science fiction. Sure not all his writings were super realistic but his most famous are.
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Wasn't Captain Nemo a creation of his that got turned jnto an actual Servant?

A lot of his novels were about making the impossible normal thanks to technology and human wit, sure we ain't going to the moon via Giant Cannon, but I guess he would have a Fake version of the Pioneer of the Stars skills... Hm... aot of the tech he dreamed actually became real, so maybe if he were to appear, would that little phrase of Da Vinci at the end would be solved?

Whatever, nice chapter.
 
Pinklestia said:
And now I want Jules Gabriel Verne as a servant. He not only basically invented science fiction but his books were as scientificaly accurate as he could make them as the time of writing. So he not only invented science fiction but realistic or "hard" science fiction. Sure not all his writings were super realistic but his most famous are.
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Wouldnt that be Mary Shelly with frankstein tho? But then again in fate its more nor al than not for people to be recognized for stuff they didnt do in their legends
 
doll32 said:
Wouldnt that be Mary Shelly with frankstein tho?
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Horror not science fiction, also in the novel the monster is basically made by either magic or alchemy not science.

SixthRanger said:
Fake version of the Pioneer of the Stars skills.
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Dreamer of the Stars? With your words the future comes now.

As long as something is possible with the avaliable technology and resources, no matter how difficult, Dreamer of the Stars makes it happen. Is not a miracle but a crystallisation of humanity full potential.
 
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Yeah, somehow I suspect Shakespeare's going to actually watch a replay of that one. I mean it was a theater with a stage and acting for crying out loud.

Also, as someone who just read this, you know DaVinci picked up on a few things that were mentioned and are important:

  • Whatever grants Taylor her power adds has stupid amounts of data to her, but is itself a separate entity.
  • The connection to Taylor is to her brain and is not magical, or at least detectable as magic.
  • That entity that can connect across parallel worlds and into singularityies.
  • As part of that connection, Taylor's control limit is "Yes" which means she can individually track and direct a ludicrous amount of bugs.
  • Therefore whatever it is that grants her her power can process a stupid amount of data and interacts with her brain deeply.
  • It can even interact with the simulation system to grant her that ability in a Matrix like VR environment.
  • While she never mentioned it, those command seals are not normal, and are visible.
Yeah, it's not hard to see that QA is by definition a foreigner. One that reconnected with her in a singularity and is stupidly powerful.

On the other hand, she's known Taylor for two years. I highly doubt that Taylor preparing for the end of the world was any less intense, and it's clear they trust each other. Though the director, might not be so calm realizing that Skitter is back.

Especially since she has seen exactly what the entities are!

This is great writing with believable characters. Keep up the good work.
 
If I would have to guess how in-universe Talyor's connection to QA is taken as, or even just her resulting power, something along the lines of a psychic ability. Though those are more technically meant for humans interacting with components of reality that greater humanity can't or won't connect to. But I would say that everything a Shard and by extension the supercolony, aka the Entity, could count as an entire species/individual that are Psychic to some measure.

As it makes a lot of what they do plausible, perhaps to the point where they connect more to universal channels, especially when you consider how they cultivate these capabilities. As they were born from what amounts to a 'glitch' where variations of the same World could be accessed and taken advantage of. Though that might conflict with how they handle technology, barring the possibility of being technopathic, but they are more likely to be things born from 'mundane' processes from multiple worlds intermingling. Maybe sharing something in common with the hypnotized Age of Will technology, or the akin to the sage arts seen in the Chinese Lostbelt, given Tinkers can have weird process that may or may not be more the Shard putting restrictions rather then part of the process.

Beyond that, the simulations that Chaldea can make would be right at home to what Shards nominally do when the Network Hubs are up and running. As in some cases, depending on the fidelity, there is not a lot of difference between the them and reality; save only for the fact that Shards prioritize recording fine details to a point.
 
The Void said:
save only for the fact that Shards prioritize recording fine details to a point.
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Shards are kinda weird in what data they deem worth preserving. We kinda see it with Khepri in Worm. QA's idea of Taylor is increasingly bleeding through and replacing the broken bits of the actual Taylor. We get much better, and even very literal, pictures of it in Ward with the dreams and Shardspace shenanigans. And between shared in Worm and Ward are the S9k clones and GU/Valkyrie's Flock which are a little twisted by coming from their Shards' backup restoration.
 
I agree with Emperor Arthur, but I'd also like to point out that such feats in the Nasuverse are actually accomplish-able without the aid of shards. This is why I'm still curious about whether or not QA is actually back.

It might be the case, since Taylor is displaying many of the signs of her parahuman career, though that may be the stress of the Grand Order. Her abilities are not using magical energy, which IS a clear sign of shard useage, but again, there are alternate possibilities, such as conceptual authority.

I currently have two working theories about how Taylor got her powers back:
1. The shard hijacked the summoning ritual to track her down and reconnect, which is entirely possible, since they manage to find people even without a beacon like the summoning ritual to begin with. However, I suspect that the shard is now connected directly to Taylors soul via her magic circuits, mitigating many of the weaknesses of the corona pollentia and gemma.

2. The summoning ritual added conceptual traits to Taylor that are a part of her legend as a heroic spirit, specifically her powers as the warlord Skitter. As these are conceptual traits akin to a noble phantasm, which would replicate the shard in full, along with the powers it grants, they'd function more like an authority than a superpower, which would mean they could be bent and twisted to suit her purposes.
 
Since it looks like Olga really might be coming back, I'm curious as to what that means for the endgame. Like Part II ending before it began is fine since it's currently unfinished but when it comes to part one there's one guy that's absolutely essential and I'm not sure of the extent of that. Like is just getting him to the end good enough or is having other other people help carry his load actually a bad thing?
 
EmperorArthur said:
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Yeah, it's not hard to see that QA is by definition a foreigner. One that reconnected with her in a singularity and is stupidly powerful.

On the other hand, she's known Taylor for two years. I highly doubt that Taylor preparing for the end of the world was any less intense, and it's clear they trust each other. Though the director, might not be so calm realizing that Skitter is back.
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She clearly knows some of the details given that she referred to nano-thorn knife as an alien blackbox. also given why Marie recruited Taylor I doubt she would be bothered.

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Shards are kinda weird in what data they deem worth preserving. We kinda see it with Khepri in Worm. QA's idea of Taylor is increasingly bleeding through and replacing the broken bits of the actual Taylor. We get much better, and even very literal, pictures of it in Ward with the dreams and Shardspace shenanigans. And between shared in Worm and Ward are the S9k clones and GU/Valkyrie's Flock which are a little twisted by coming from their Shards' backup restoration.
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GM was QA and Taylor fusing, not a flaw in QAs backup. Everything we know suggests their backup is indistinguishable from the parahuman to the point that argueing that they are different at all is just semantics. With clones the problem seems to be that there is limits to how many memories can be transferred over, with the flock remembering much more and being more accurate. The issue seems to come from the fact that the memories retrieved are not random with the shard prioritizing memories where a persons power is being used, which means in most cases that the memories will be of fights and not ordinary life.
 
Goldenroot said:
She clearly knows some of the details given that she referred to nano-thorn knife as an alien blackbox. also given why Marie recruited Taylor I doubt she would be bothered.


GM was QA and Taylor fusing, not a flaw in QAs backup. Everything we know suggests their backup is indistinguishable from the parahuman to the point that argueing that they are different at all is just semantics. With clones the problem seems to be that there is limits to how many memories can be transferred over, with the flock remembering much more and being more accurate. The issue seems to come from the fact that the memories retrieved are not random with the shard prioritizing memories where a persons power is being used, which means in most cases that the memories will be of fights and not ordinary life.
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Did we even read the same source material?
Taylor was a hot mess as Khepri because QA was replacing more and more of Taylor's brain function with itself. If it's backup isn't flawed then why couldn't Taylor read or communicate? A proper backup would've replaced that functionality as it was lost.
As for the limit of memory transfer with the scales being weighted toward power usage. That is definitively a flawed restoration from backup. But it isn't just that the Shard prioritized restoring from combat logs and trauma. It prioritized saving the combat logs and trauma. Even a member of Valkyrie's flock will come back twisted and strange because they perfectly remember every fight they've been in, but can hardly remember their own mother's face. Because the Shard remembers every fight, but hardly remembers the Host's mother's face. That data isn't important to the Shard so it isn't saved in high fidelity detail. Shards are more likely to save non power usage or combat details in interactions between parahumans or (potential) bud hosts than the average muggle because it has a vested interest in interactions between parahumans and determining potential hosts to bud to.
 
Orumon27 said:
I agree with Emperor Arthur, but I'd also like to point out that such feats in the Nasuverse are actually accomplish-able without the aid of shards. This is why I'm still curious about whether or not QA is actually back.

It might be the case, since Taylor is displaying many of the signs of her parahuman career, though that may be the stress of the Grand Order. Her abilities are not using magical energy, which IS a clear sign of shard useage, but again, there are alternate possibilities, such as conceptual authority.

I currently have two working theories about how Taylor got her powers back:
1. The shard hijacked the summoning ritual to track her down and reconnect, which is entirely possible, since they manage to find people even without a beacon like the summoning ritual to begin with. However, I suspect that the shard is now connected directly to Taylors soul via her magic circuits, mitigating many of the weaknesses of the corona pollentia and gemma.

2. The summoning ritual added conceptual traits to Taylor that are a part of her legend as a heroic spirit, specifically her powers as the warlord Skitter. As these are conceptual traits akin to a noble phantasm, which would replicate the shard in full, along with the powers it grants, they'd function more like an authority than a superpower, which would mean they could be bent and twisted to suit her purposes.
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There would also be the possibility that the summoning ritual, since they did not have a catalyst, instead of summoning a complete heroic spirit, it invoked only a loose NP, one of the NPs of the heroic spirit Kheperi, that is, its Noble Phantasm: Queen Administrator

And since the two are literally the same person, the NP bonded with Taylor and altered to function as her original powers again.
 
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TetsuoS2 said:
That also felt like a message for everyone waiting for Marie to come back, since there are close to 0 fics with Marie alive and is also good.

I'm really enjoying the byplay between everyone and Taylor, she might have been impressed by the capabilities of servants but she forgot shewas really special too.

I do hope she manages to connect to the twins better, at some point.
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There is one on questionable questing but in the NSFW section. Its a waifu catalog one I forget the name...
 
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