No, it's just extra large...
No, it's just extra large...
Damn.
So I'm saying, no making a definitive statement as the GM:
Cut this disruption out. Now.
If that is how you see and desire it, I shall hold my peace.I have already explained this quest is taking an XCOM like approach to the fight against the Pirates. I've explained that power armour helps bring characters who'd normally be picked off by snipers be brought up to par. I've had characters prove instrumental in fighting against enemies through unique means. Even when they're brought down against enemies that prove incredibly beyond most foes those foes are unique and explicitly the result of godlike aliens.
I do not appreciate this passive aggressive disruption, the fact you must make things up or badly misinterpret how things go. Nor do I appreciate how any legitimate criticism is overshadowed by the inconsistent arguments how even giving them equipment to fight on par isn't good enough. How they must slaughter every foe as they are, just like a verses debate said they should.
So I'm saying, no making a definitive statement as the GM:
Cut this disruption out. Now.
... And I absolutely disagree with that. Because that is being rude, disrespectful, and absolutely nothing like what IB just stated. You have no sense of manners, sir.One of the most important lessons a Writer and / or GM need to learn is the ability to tell fan's,readers, and players to go fuck off.
Good to see that here.
Serenity to accept honest criticism, courage to beat down the shitposters and flamers, and the wisdom to know the difference.
That old saying works for everything.
That's just crazy talk.
Taylor leads with forretress using the terrain trapping moves and explosion. Then she makes clever use of a ninjask named Escalation, vulcarona with whirlwind, a mega-heracross named Atlas, a vespiquen named BEEEEEES, and shuckle.
Taylor leads with forretress using the terrain trapping moves and explosion. Then she makes clever use of a ninjask named Escalation, vulcarona with whirlwind, a mega-heracross named Atlas, a vespiquen named BEEEEEES, and shuckle.
Glad to hear you've been enjoying the quest! If you don't mind me asking, what's been your favorite moments so far? What really made you bust a gut?
Glad to hear you've been enjoying the quest! If you don't mind me asking, what's been your favorite moments so far? What really made you bust a gut?
I know, and I know exactly what broken combination people use for it.Shuckle is actually scary good, if you use it right, but everybody looks at that derpy face, those obscenely unbalanced stats, that limited movepool, and they shrug, and they say "meh, I can take it."
It's perfect for Taylor.
Yeah, those were pretty funny.On a quest level? Samus' reaction to getting a hair cut/styling.
On my previous post? The Shuckle post made by Immortalsblade. For it is true and just
So... want... to... post/link... video!I know, and I know exactly what broken combination people use for it.
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Shuckle is actually scary good, if you use it right, but everybody looks at that derpy face, those obscenely unbalanced stats, that limited movepool, and they shrug, and they say "meh, I can take it."
It's perfect for Taylor.
You might want to delete that. IB didn't like it when people question the underlying logic behind the direction he's taking the quest, and got very emotional before declaring that that kind of 'versus debate' 'disruption' was no longer allowed.
Didn't see that post. Scrolled back to find it.declaring that that kind of 'versus debate' 'disruption' was no longer allowed.
As I've already politely asked, please stop with the passive aggressive sniping, and do not tell other players what they can and cannot post.You might want to delete that. IB didn't like it when people question the underlying logic behind the direction he's taking the quest, and got very emotional before declaring that that kind of 'versus debate' 'disruption' was no longer allowed.
Don't listen to him, post what you will.Didn't see that post. Scrolled back to find it.
Not sure if what I wrote would have fallen under that or not.
Deleting just to be safe.
... so this:As I've already politely asked, please stop with the passive aggressive sniping, and do not tell other players what they can and cannot post.
is 'inconsistent', 'because versus debate says so' or whatever you didn't like about it and this not allowed, but his thing on the exact same topic and idea I presented above is allowed?lets take one enemy we've seen in the quest, and match it up against the Brockton Bay capes. It mostly comes down to one singular thing: Working together.
Quest enemy: Svarog.
Against Purity, she can handle it solo: Staying out of its pyrokinetic range while blasting away until it expires.
E88: Kaiser keeps spawning in domes and barriers of metal as the beast keeps attacking, making it get bogged down in molten metal and eventually suffocate, while Rune keeps Kaiser and any other E88 capes out of range. Fog, Fenja/Menja, Hookwolf, they're on mook duty.
For the Brockton Bay Protecotrate and Wards, to demonstrate the teamwork in a larger group: Vista warps space to keep the beast from coming closer and its heat away. Miss Militia hits the beast with containment/fire-suppressant* foam grenades/mortars. Colin's tweaked his Halberd to have some durability in the extreme heat and have an electrical charge, so Vista makes his swings connect at long range. Kind Win has made an electrical/Tesla gun that's more or less the same quality as his laser pistol, or breaks out his giant cannon.
Svarog: Beaten.
Taylor is on Command/Control with her bugs, keeping people appraised of the larger battlefield situation.
Aegis, Gallant, A&B, and others are attacking the mooks like Dazhog and Wretches.
I didn't say your post was disallowed. As I said, it was misinterpreting what would happen due to a variety of factors I already established. The Verses debate comment was in response for people to take things from the grossly inaccurate Worm feat thread which is based on misconceptions and insanity and declare it canon.is 'inconsistent', 'because versus debate says so' or whatever you didn't like about it and this not allowed, but his thing on the exact same topic and idea I presented above is allowed?
I had a problem with how you were describing that I got emotional and took it to mean something very negative. That's it. Nothing personal, just thought it was a snipe with how you described my reaction and the comments previously on how you thought I was portraying the heroes poorly. Because I have experience with people ordering the GM how they want the quest to run and assumed you were doing something like that unintentionally and wanted to stamp down on it.If you've got a problem with what I'm saying, just tell me why what I'm saying is wrong, what your problem is. Hell, I'd even take something as simple as pointing at whoever's apparently got it right via a requote.
I am not getting emotional, I think there's a bit of a miscommunication. I do not have a personal beef with someone unless they take the time to deliberately insult my work and my person. Apologies if it came across that way.If you've really got a personal problem with me, take it to a mod and let them sort out who's right and wrong, rather than get emotional over things.
Like I said, just let me handle it. Don't worry about it.I've got no beef with you, I've never had any issue with you before now, so I have no idea where you get this impression of me personally sniping you. I was being actually polite in warning him not to bring up a subject you said was no longer up for discussion and expressed great emotional frustration over it being a thing. You must not have seen his post, otherwise you wouldn't be taking this stance.
I'm not shutting down anyone's voices, you can express whatever you want.Look, there's no need for hostility and shutting down people's voices in any of this, lets discuss things civilly and work to understand each other here. OK?
Considering your post quoting me back then ended with you saying that 'disruption' indeed was disallowed, and included a very broad and non-engaging lamenting of things that lined up alot with what I'd previously said between the post you quoted and your post, can you understand why I thought you were responding to me... without engaging me?
Where is this Versus thread business coming from? I never mentioned it. I don't remember anyone else mentioning it, but I could be wrong.As I said, it was misinterpreting what would happen due to a variety of factors I already established. The Verses debate comment was in response for people to take things from the grossly inaccurate Worm feat thread which is based on misconceptions and insanity and declare it canon.
You say you were, and still are, 'frustrated'. It is, by definition, an emotion. Thus your posts made within the context of this whole... thing the two of us seem to haveI had a problem with how you were describing that I got emotional and took it to mean something very negative. That's it. Nothing personal, just thought it was a snipe with how you described my reaction and the comments previously on how you thought I was portraying the heroes poorly. Because I have experience with people ordering the GM how they want the quest to run and assumed you were doing something like that unintentionally and wanted to stamp down on it.
There seems to be alot of that between the two of us, unfortunately.I am not getting emotional, I think there's a bit of a miscommunication.
*sigh* I'm sorry too. Sorry we had to go through all this. Well, hopefully we've gotten to the same page now, and we can put this spot of ugliness behind us.I do not have a personal beef with someone unless they take the time to deliberately insult my work and my person. Apologies if it came across that way.
How do you think Wildbow feels about Worm?The only thing I get frustrated at is people making me repeat what I've had to explain before.
That was never my issue. There's a difference between, to overly simplify, attack and defense. Survivability and offensiveness. The heroes clearly need the armor to not die against the Metroid-universe's weaponry. But I feel that the heroes can, with their base powers, can still be effective against the opposition with some clever thinking and teamwork. You've done the former part most notably with Taylor and the Metroid wildlife, as I've said before. I merely wished to extend that to the other heroes. But if you think the heroes powers need boosting to remain relevant in the face of Metroid/Space Pirate weaponry, then that's the end of the Watsonian discussion. If people want to make Doylist arguments, that's a whole 'nother kettle of fish. One I'd rather not tackle right now, at 4:30 AM.I know some people are unhappy with how the heroes need Metroid power armour to survive but they're just bog standard humans.
So that's a 'no, Vista can't just warp space so the Svarog's perpetually kept at a safe distance while the others plink away'?They can move fast enough that they could cross the distance between here and the warehouse that without armour the heroes would be flash-incinerated. Space Pirates are blurs, armored Goliaths that can backhand a man so hard they vanish into a cloud of red mist.
See my above comments on not dying vs. taking SP's down.I don't understand why people have problems with armour that enhances the heroes abilities to let them compare, I really don't.
Same here, especially the 'figure out how they can contribute' part.Look, I want the heroes to remain relevant. To fight alongside Samus against the Pirate hordes. But I'm not going to nerf everyone rather than putting in the effort to figure out how they can contribute.
... I got a long night of researching ahead of me, don't I?Even if it ultimately comes down to them needing armour to survive.
Especially when the Pirates decide to pull out the Preed's and Bombu.
... I got a long night of researching ahead of me, don't I?
Eh, I've got the college student's panacea: caffeine.![]()