Hatchling Quest (Worm/Metroid)
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They can impact the story, they're just less than effective in fights.
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I don't believe that a Pirate Militia would be able to survive a 16 in. shell hitting him, that's stupid.
We're talking a 2700 pound projectile moving at over 1000 mph. Pirate Militia/Troopers/etc. get chunky-salsa'd.
Based on how they're portrayed in-story Metroid-verse shields are literally video game health bullshit.
Okay this is seriously annoying the hell out of me. Stop, I don't find it amusing.
Okay yes, that is silly. To be fair I wrote that after not sleeping for 24 hours. But I also imagined it resulting in something like this:
And don't we all wish to have your foe blasting off like Team Rocket?
But yeah, it is silly and I was more trying to explain that the railgun round hitting the Pirate with the amount of force it would be hitting with is perfectly survivable by the Pirate. Just didn't explain it right and I apologize for that.
So yeah, as I was saying it was mostly a combination of exhaustion and Pokemon Go severely colouring my response and I apologize for the confusion. Especially since there was a Squirtle by my house, which is the third best starter behind Totodile and Froakie and everyone who says otherwise can fite me m8!
But on a related note can you imagine what kind of AR games the Federation must have using basic logic. Holy hell, Pokemon Go-like games would be fucking amazing. With servers that don't crash. Crowds of people would flock to worlds, just trying to capture that elusive Entei, with near perfect simulations of trainer battles and Pokemon behavior. Hell, with hardlight holograms people might be able to even reach out and touch their Pokemon, or actually feed them snacks to build up that trainer trust. Pokemon might not even be limited to 4 moves!
So, in apology for writing a post while delirious from heat exhaustion and lack of sleep I have a challenge for you guys. A very obvious challenge that anyone will have picked up by now. In fact I'm pretty sure people have been thinking about this already for a long time, considering the number of Worm fics based on this premise. However it's specifically for this quest that I ask you this very important question that is sure to keep people talking for a very long time.
A question for the ages that I am solely hiding to make sure my word count is at least 500 words so it shows up in people's alerts. A question we must all ask at least once for every franchise in existence!
What are the Pokemon teams for the characters of this story?
Honestly? Pretty much. This is mostly due to making the combat more video-gamey to make it easier on me as well as keeping to the portrayal in the game universe. But yeah, every shield operates on the "As long as you have 1 hit point left you'll be fine."
Now I mean things will happen that are ridiculous. But well, as people have figured out every character is getting a little helping hand in the form of better equipment to let them bring out the bullshit against enemies.
But yeah, lets just say a few of the planned enemies came about after playing an unhealthy amount of Metal Gear Rising and leave it at that.
Idk, can Taylor have more than six as long as they're all Beedrill?What are the Pokemon teams for the characters of this story?
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Neither do any of us. Show Worm characters being successful against the Metroid enemies without 'being Metroided', and the complaints'll go away. 'till then, its all a well-written curbstomp. Well written, especially in the characters, but a curbstomp nonetheless.
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Personal List for Taylor.
Mega Beedrill
Scizor
Heracross
Galvantula
Yanmega
Vespiquen
Mega Beedrill
Scizor
Heracross
Galvantula
Yanmega
Vespiquen
Always Late
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Taylor having Bug Pokemon aside...What are the Pokemon teams for the characters of this story?
Samus: Mega Rayquaza, Deoxys, Garchomp, Mega Gardevour, Pikachu, Greninja. AKA: Six of the most bullshit, overpowered pokemon.
General one-offs/short lists I think work...
Armsmaster: Metagross, Steelix, Gallade, Mega Mawile, Houndoom.
Miss Miltia: Mega Blastoise, Aggron, Sharpedo, Manetric, Skarmory, starraptor.
Alexandria: Mewtwo, Ho-Ho, Aerodactyl, Garydos,
Eidolon: Dialga.
Legend: Palkia, Lugia,
Mouse Protector: Lucario (Because I like making stoic, focused characters suffer.
), Gengar, Venasaur, Ratticate, MedichampLung: Is his own pokemon.
EDIT: Expanded some of the one-offs into lists.
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Uhhhhhh how?
Seriously there is a bit of power discrepancy between the average worm character and the average metroid wildlife much less Samus and the main villains of the franchise.
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No MP gets the mice pokemonTaylor having Bug Pokemon aside...
Samus: Mega Rayquaza, Deoxys, Garchomp, Mega Gardevour, Alakazam, Greninja. AKA: Six of the most bullshit, overpowered pokemon.
General one-offs I think work...
Armsmaster: Metagross.
Miss Miltia: Mega Blastoise
Alexandria: Mewtwo.
Eidolon: Dialga.
Legend: Palkia.
Mouse Protector: Lucario. (Because I like making stoic, focused characters suffer.
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I'm trying to not be stereotypical. Sure, I did add some, but I'm also trying to work in pokemon that play off or contrast the characters' themes. Pokemon doesn't have 'guns', so Miss Militia gets the one thats closest, Blastoise, then raptor-like flying pokemon to go with her 'America' theme, and finally some melee to round out her ranged focus.
See what I'm getting at?
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I find your lack of creativity disturbing./Darth Vader
Power levels don't mean you're invincible, its what you do with the hand your dealt that makes a parahman strong. That's one of the key themes in Worm: There are people with powers that are seemingly invincible and can roll right over the main character, but with alot of hard work, intelligence, and cooperation between parahumans, even gods can be killed.
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...Bulbasaur or bust.So yeah, as I was saying it was mostly a combination of exhaustion and Pokemon Go severely colouring my response and I apologize for the confusion. Especially since there was a Squirtle by my house, which is the third best starter behind Totodile and Froakie and everyone who says otherwise can fite me m8!
I've always felt a Metal Gear-esque Metroid would be awesome.
...so Pokemon. You had to make it Pokemon teams. I haven't been up to speed with Pokemon since Gold and Silver.
All I can really say for now is shame on anyone who says that Samus doesn't have Pikachu.
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... Ok, I forgot about Subspace Emmissary, you're absolutely right. I'll drop Alakazam for the little one.
Alright i'll bite: how is lets say Taylor supposed to fight something that lives in acid or lava without using Metroid technology or wildlife; what about Aegis, clockblocker, hell hound, glory girl, mouse protector ect ect?
Hell most characters in worm can't even survive being even near these creatures as it's either to hot or the air becomes a toxic slurry that causes armor plating to literally melt. The ones that can survive are either the strongest capes in the world or have some protection that is near immediately negated by the sheer power discrepancy or by the fact metroid wildlife usually comes in packs.
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Samus' team has to be half Xatu.
Remoraid is actually modeled after a revolver.
Actually, this isn't a typical curbstomp.
In an archetypical curbstomp, the protag uses his overwhelming power to handily defeat the major villains easily. In the case of Worm fanfic, this is typically an alternatively powered Taylor defeating Lung, Kaiser, Coil, and then building up to Leviathan. The purpose is to show the overwhelming power and coolness of the hero.
Off the top of my head, Samus has only confronted three Worm villains.
First was Uber and Leet, who are popular in fanfic but are bit players in the grand scheme of things. Samus didn't even fight them; she just blew up their pterodactyl robot.
Second was Circus, who is also a minor villain. That wasn't even a fight, it was a comedy sequence.
And finally there were the Merchants, who are at the bottom of the Brockton Bay criminal totem pole, both in and out of universe.
Samus has (deliberately, out of universe) not fought any major villains. She has just not done much, if any, real curbstomping.
If anyone's doing curbstomping, it's the Space Pirates in the backstory. And since it's not the hero doing the curbstomping, the effect isn't "look how awesome the hero is", the effect is "oh god, Worm-Earth is fucked".
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Well, ignoring the bolded self-contradictory statement, lets take one enemy we've seen in the quest, and match it up against the Brockton Bay capes. It mostly comes down to one singular thing: Working together.
Quest enemy: Svarog.
Against Purity, she can handle it solo: Staying out of its pyrokinetic range while blasting away until it expires.
E88: Kaiser keeps spawning in domes and barriers of metal as the beast keeps attacking, making it get bogged down in molten metal and eventually suffocate, while Rune keeps Kaiser and any other E88 capes out of range. Fog, Fenja/Menja, Hookwolf, they're on mook duty.
For the Brockton Bay Protecotrate and Wards, to demonstrate the teamwork in a larger group: Vista warps space to keep the beast from coming closer and its heat away. Miss Militia hits the beast with containment/fire-suppressant* foam grenades/mortars. Colin's tweaked his Halberd to have some durability in the extreme heat and have an electrical charge, so Vista makes his swings connect at long range. Kind Win has made an electrical/Tesla gun that's more or less the same quality as his laser pistol, or breaks out his giant cannon.
Svarog: Beaten.
Taylor is on Command/Control with her bugs, keeping people appraised of the larger battlefield situation.
Aegis, Gallant, A&B, and others are attacking the mooks like Dazhog and Wretches.
Its a poor craftsmen who blames his tools for shoddy work. So while not every parahuman can beat every enemy, one just has to apply their brain to think of the ones they can work against.
*The kind they use for jet aircraft fires.
That's... nothing I've heard of before. Cite?
Did I make the claim that is was? No.
Huh. What other shadowy organizations do I keep hearing people bitch about because they're near-invincible and seemingly beat everyone?
FTFY. To be fair, Taylor controlling the Metroid wildlife, that's good stuff. I'd like to see more stuff like that.
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I actually can't find anything more authoritative than the Bulbapedia trivia section and every time anyone's ever asked why it evolves into Octillery.
I have already explained this quest is taking an XCOM like approach to the fight against the Pirates. I've explained that power armour helps bring characters who'd normally be picked off by snipers be brought up to par. I've had characters prove instrumental in fighting against enemies through unique means. Even when they're brought down against enemies that prove incredibly beyond most foes those foes are unique and explicitly the result of godlike aliens.
I do not appreciate this passive aggressive disruption, the fact you must make things up or badly misinterpret how things go. Nor do I appreciate how any legitimate criticism is overshadowed by the inconsistent arguments how even giving them equipment to fight on par isn't good enough. How they must slaughter every foe as they are, just like a verses debate said they should.
So I'm saying, no making a definitive statement as the GM:
Cut this disruption out. Now.
...Especially since there was a Squirtle by my house, which is the third best starter behind Totodile and Froakie and everyone who says otherwise can fite me m8!
Does the Squirtle wear the shades? This is important.
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Especially since there was a Squirtle by my house, which is the third best starter behind Totodile and Froakie and everyone who says otherwise can fite me m8!
But Snivy tho. Smug leaf pokemon>weird frog mon