CedeTheBees
Probably high right now
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Somehow missed that line lmao
Harry Potter and the Scabbard of Excalibur [AU]
[X] Plan Less Is More
-[X] Trismegistus
-[X] An Equal in Truth
-[X] Mark of the Equal
Have you ever read Harry Potter fanfiction and felt your eyes roll off your head when the author gave the protagonist a million titles, advantages and traits? Have you ever scooped your eyes off the floor and kept on reading, only to see the author either make each and every one of those things virtually irrelevant in the story, or get pulled in a million different directions until the themes become flimsy and the narrative is in shambles?
Let's not be that author.
Edit - I somehow missed that there was already a plan with this in mind.
[X] Plan KISS
-[X] An Equal In Truth
-[X] Boy-Who-Lived
-[X] Mark of the Equal
-[X] Trismegistus
-[X] An Equal in Truth
-[X] Mark of the Equal
Have you ever read Harry Potter fanfiction and felt your eyes roll off your head when the author gave the protagonist a million titles, advantages and traits? Have you ever scooped your eyes off the floor and kept on reading, only to see the author either make each and every one of those things virtually irrelevant in the story, or get pulled in a million different directions until the themes become flimsy and the narrative is in shambles?
Let's not be that author.
Edit - I somehow missed that there was already a plan with this in mind.
[X] Plan KISS
-[X] An Equal In Truth
-[X] Boy-Who-Lived
-[X] Mark of the Equal
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Gabbie
That One Writer
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Did none of you read what I actually wrote? Arrogance isn't only the Draco kind - Arrogance can also take the appearance of being so stubborn you always think you know better.
Book 1 - Let's go look for the Philosopher's Stone, endanger it with our mere presence, and not give a fuck about what Minerva said about its defenses being pretty much impenetrable!
Book 2 - Let's save Ginny without going to any of the adults!
Book 3 - Let's keep being reckless when there's a supposed killer and dementors out for my blood!
Book 4 - Let's not forfeit the challenges! And let's get mad at Ron for absolutely no reason!
Book 5 - Let's rush the Ministry and get Sirius killed! And don't forget to get angry at Cho, our girlfriend, for talking about her feelings on her dead ex-boyfriend!
Book 6 - Let's take it upon ourselves to spy on Malfoy when it is absolutely not our place!
Book 7 - Let's- okay fair, this is Harry's responsibility.
He constantly assumes responsibilities he doesn't have, disdains authority so much that it's ridiculous. Arrogance isn't only "I'm better than you, you mudblood!", but it can also look like, "I'll not give a fuck about your opinion and do what I want anyway because I'm the Chosen One and I obviously know better." It doesn't have to be explicit in the text to be explicit in his actions.
Like, BRO, you're basically a Muggle as far as knowledge of the Magical world goes, trust your elders.
EDIT: Oh, and what about when Harry constantly demands people make accommodations for him on the base of him playing Quidditch? "I can't do homework, I got quidditch," "I can't do detention, I have a quidditch match," and so on.
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WhoTheHeckity
But no one ever asks HowTheHeckity
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[X] Plan Huffle, Huffle, Toil and Trouble
[X] Plan Less Is More
[X] Plan KISS
Whomst?
These are the vibes I'm looking for.
Pretty much my experience with most HP fanfiction. I enjoy that this world is more realistic and grounded. Let's have a protagonist to match : )
[X] Plan Less Is More
[X] Plan KISS
The biggest of yikes to you.
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Gabbie
That One Writer
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The "you" was referring to Harry, if it wasn't clear.
*laughs quietly*
The writer of a powerscaling-heavy Quest called A Simple Transaction.
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OctarineShrike
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Rihaku's quests are known for their Xianxia and beyond(Read, utterly ludicrous) power levels and optimization/minmaxing debates being a genuine case of life and death in the quest.
One of the changes Birdsie has made to this setting is a higher power ceiling. People are theoretically capable of reaching power levels in the territory of nukes here going by some of his discord remarks.
CedeTheBees
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But you have to admit it's so much more satisfying reaching godhood from the bottom.
I'd love to get to that. But I wanna work for it.
Van Ropen
Angry, angry about elves.
Yes, it's a comment that reveals both disdain for the source material and ignorance of the source material and that is rarely a good combination
I'm off to bed so I'm not gonna go down the whole list, but most of the list is wrong. Harry and Friends explicitly try to warn people about the Stone in the first novel before taking any action themselves - in a young adult mystery novel, btw, where the adults CANNOT BE PRESENT for the sake of having a story. Ditto for Book 2, where they only go after Ginny themselves after failing to get help. Ditto for Book...you're seeing the pattern, yes? Forfeiting the Tournament is likewise discarded as a possibility by the judges when Harry is first entered in the tournament, so that's just a factual inconsistency.
You're working off fanon-influenced disdain for canon.
Edit: Though tbh, I guess this is all pointless. We're picking the character we want to play now, so it doesn't really matter if we agree on this interpretation of OTL Harry's character.
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Gabbie
That One Writer
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You can't forsake logic and reason 'for the sake of having a story.' That's just bad writing. You find other ways - Rowling's way was to make Harry uneblievably stubborn to the point of suicidally reckless behavior.
WHen has authority ever stopped Harry? kekw
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CedeTheBees
Probably high right now
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To be fair, the authority in that specific example was a magical artifact that used binding contracts.
Van Ropen
Angry, angry about elves.
No, but it should influence the charity with which you evaluate certain character actions and stations of canon. It's very similar to how we don't hold teenagers to the same standards as adults - it's perfectly reasonable for Ron to be an insecure/jealous kid, for Harry to be hurt by the percieved (and later real) rejection, and for them to make up and move on. It smacks of pseudo-rationalist drivel.
Literally every day. He lived in a society
. Regardless, you're saying he should have forfeited after being explicitly told it would make no difference, which makes no sense.
KidFromPallet
Pokemon Fan
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Well now, this is quite interesting. I suppose I'll do a bit of analysis before I vote.
And now, to the options:
The Parseltongue-politician thing might just be a joke, but it could be possible that Slytherin gives diplomacy bonuses to politicians, lawyers, and others of their ilk. It'd be fitting, at least. The blood empowerment is fairly good, I could see that working out quite well if we took Alchemy or Potions with Trismegistus. Being a natural Legilimens could be useful for subterfuge, as it'd enable mind reading without any obvious tell, but I'm kind of meh on it, personally. The dueling/battle magic could be useful, especially for builds that pick Apocryphal. All in all, it's a fairly decent choice, but I think there are better.
The path of a muscle-wizard is a fine one indeed. Very attractive to any build with Apocryphal, ensuring that Harry can easily bounce back from anything that doesn't kill him. Also pairs very well with Boy-Who-Lived, as combining this magic resistance with the Forbidden Curse immunity makes it very difficult to actually take this build out. The physical self-reinforcement aptitude is interesting in that if we can get some kind of maintainable speed boost going we'd be able to study for subjectively longer amounts of time. The Hogwarts authorization is interesting in that it opens up unique options for dealing with troubles that occur at school.
Ravenclaw is actually pretty interesting. The immunity to Memory Charms is very, very nice: being able to completely shut down a dangerous vector of attack like that is quite the potent boon indeed. I can't really judge the benefit we gain from having an easier time making/modifying spells, but it would likely be fairly significant. The Hogwarts floor plan is actually a pretty solid boon, given that it'd enable things like Room of Requirement abuse right out of the gate. Becoming a Seer and diviner is actually pretty good. Being able to see the ebbs and flows of fate would likely help with handling whatever the Apocryphal throws at us, and The Dark Lord, for all his power, still feared the prophecy of a Seer.
A simple but fairly potent set of boons. The first gives us an entire House worth of minions, which is a fair bit more useful than you'd expect. In addition to having many more eyes and ears and hands with which to get things done, we'd have easy access to a bevy of 7th year 'Puffs ready to tutor us in any subject we care to learn. Actually, wait. Would this work on people who graduated from Hufflepuff? Because if so, that'd give us an insane number of people to potentially use. The second benefit is quite good to, the ability to just always give our maximum effort is sure to boost our advancement considerably. I'm not quite certain what an 'Infinite Patronus' would entail, but it sounds like something that's at least fairly overpowered.
That fourth point is, uh, quite ominous though. I'd laugh if it turns out that becoming Lord of Hufflepuff somehow connects Harry and You-Know-Who more, and that's what's up with those dreams.
If I had to pick one, I'd likely go for Gryffindor or Ravenclaw.
A pretty good boon, all together. An increase to our reputation is nice, makes it easier to both connect with those around us and call down favors from authority figures. Would certainly enhance the leeway we'd get for our efforts in dealing with Apocryphal procs, anyway. And the Unforgivable immunity is just beautiful, honestly. I wonder how many Death Eaters suffering that reflection it'd take before they decided to swap up their approach. Plus, it'd enable hilarious strategies like human shielding said Unforgivables so other people don't get hit or taunting enemies so they just reactively try and Kedavra us, even knowing it's not a good idea. Those who venture into dark magic aren't exactly known for their sanity, after all. I don't imagine we could ever get You-Know-Who to completely lose his cool like that, but some of his lieutenants... (Cough Bellatrix cough) Anyway, yeah, immunity to magic that is otherwise dodge-or-die is very nice.
He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named is powerful indeed, it would seem. This grants power enough that we would be greater than our peers on arrival, and potential enough to maintain our position ahead of them. The extra Gnosis is also appreciated, a steady drip that could help push us over the edge for some important purchases.
Not much to say. Pure potential, and quite a large amount.
A very, very good option. Incredible skill and incredible growth in three different disciplines is definitely nothing to scoff at. Ideally, the disciplines chosen would either combo with each other or serve to boost ourselves in some way.
Fairly obvious drawback: we are bound more closely to The Dark Lord. Honestly, I'm interested in the Additional Boon it would offer. What benefit could we get from being tied more tightly to He-Who-Must-No-Be-Named?
Oh no, we need to wear glasses. Whatever shall we do, suffering under the weight of this terrible curse. Easy pick.
Eh, it's tolerable. We'll just have to guide it towards Heroic Determination, is all. Plus, the Additional Boon here is likely to boost willpower, at least in my view.
Oh boy, all aboard the crazy train. Essentially hard more, greater risk for greater reward. Of course I'm going for it.
Ultimately, I'm fine with taking all the drawbacks which leaves me with one House Boon and the other four boons. I'd expressed that I prefer Gryffindor or Ravenclaw, and l think I'll go with Ravenclaw.
[X] Plan Phenomenal Cosmic Power
-[X] Sage of Raenclaw
-[X] Boy-Who-Lived
-[X] An Equal In Truth
-[X] A Child Prodigy
-[X] Trismegistus
-[X] Mark of the Equal
-[X] Heroic Flaw: Arrogance
-[X] Impaired Eyesight
-[X] Apocryphal Curse
Edit: There's another plan that goes for a full-Drawback build, so I'll approval vote for it. If either my plan or that one have a real shot at winning I'll concentrate my vote-power around just the one, instead.
[X] Plan Subvocals
Edit edit: New max all Drawback plan, this time focused on Hufflepuff.
[X] Plan Max Lightning
-[X] Lord of Hufflepuff
-[X] Boy-Who-Lived
-[X] An Equal In Truth
-[X] A Child Prodigy
-[X] Trismegistus
-[X] Mark of the Equal
-[X] Heroic Flaw: Arrogance
-[X] Impaired Eyesight
-[X] Apocryphal Curse
Well, first things first. Harry Potter titles generally refer to some important plot element, so the fact that the quest title conforms to the same basic structure is interesting. Now, it's possible that this was just a cool title that fit the theme, but it may also be a bit of foreshadowing towards stuff later on in the Quest. We'll see.
And now, to the options:
The Parseltongue-politician thing might just be a joke, but it could be possible that Slytherin gives diplomacy bonuses to politicians, lawyers, and others of their ilk. It'd be fitting, at least. The blood empowerment is fairly good, I could see that working out quite well if we took Alchemy or Potions with Trismegistus. Being a natural Legilimens could be useful for subterfuge, as it'd enable mind reading without any obvious tell, but I'm kind of meh on it, personally. The dueling/battle magic could be useful, especially for builds that pick Apocryphal. All in all, it's a fairly decent choice, but I think there are better.
The path of a muscle-wizard is a fine one indeed. Very attractive to any build with Apocryphal, ensuring that Harry can easily bounce back from anything that doesn't kill him. Also pairs very well with Boy-Who-Lived, as combining this magic resistance with the Forbidden Curse immunity makes it very difficult to actually take this build out. The physical self-reinforcement aptitude is interesting in that if we can get some kind of maintainable speed boost going we'd be able to study for subjectively longer amounts of time. The Hogwarts authorization is interesting in that it opens up unique options for dealing with troubles that occur at school.
Ravenclaw is actually pretty interesting. The immunity to Memory Charms is very, very nice: being able to completely shut down a dangerous vector of attack like that is quite the potent boon indeed. I can't really judge the benefit we gain from having an easier time making/modifying spells, but it would likely be fairly significant. The Hogwarts floor plan is actually a pretty solid boon, given that it'd enable things like Room of Requirement abuse right out of the gate. Becoming a Seer and diviner is actually pretty good. Being able to see the ebbs and flows of fate would likely help with handling whatever the Apocryphal throws at us, and The Dark Lord, for all his power, still feared the prophecy of a Seer.
A simple but fairly potent set of boons. The first gives us an entire House worth of minions, which is a fair bit more useful than you'd expect. In addition to having many more eyes and ears and hands with which to get things done, we'd have easy access to a bevy of 7th year 'Puffs ready to tutor us in any subject we care to learn. Actually, wait. Would this work on people who graduated from Hufflepuff? Because if so, that'd give us an insane number of people to potentially use. The second benefit is quite good to, the ability to just always give our maximum effort is sure to boost our advancement considerably. I'm not quite certain what an 'Infinite Patronus' would entail, but it sounds like something that's at least fairly overpowered.
That fourth point is, uh, quite ominous though. I'd laugh if it turns out that becoming Lord of Hufflepuff somehow connects Harry and You-Know-Who more, and that's what's up with those dreams.
If I had to pick one, I'd likely go for Gryffindor or Ravenclaw.
A pretty good boon, all together. An increase to our reputation is nice, makes it easier to both connect with those around us and call down favors from authority figures. Would certainly enhance the leeway we'd get for our efforts in dealing with Apocryphal procs, anyway. And the Unforgivable immunity is just beautiful, honestly. I wonder how many Death Eaters suffering that reflection it'd take before they decided to swap up their approach. Plus, it'd enable hilarious strategies like human shielding said Unforgivables so other people don't get hit or taunting enemies so they just reactively try and Kedavra us, even knowing it's not a good idea. Those who venture into dark magic aren't exactly known for their sanity, after all. I don't imagine we could ever get You-Know-Who to completely lose his cool like that, but some of his lieutenants... (Cough Bellatrix cough) Anyway, yeah, immunity to magic that is otherwise dodge-or-die is very nice.
He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named is powerful indeed, it would seem. This grants power enough that we would be greater than our peers on arrival, and potential enough to maintain our position ahead of them. The extra Gnosis is also appreciated, a steady drip that could help push us over the edge for some important purchases.
Not much to say. Pure potential, and quite a large amount.
A very, very good option. Incredible skill and incredible growth in three different disciplines is definitely nothing to scoff at. Ideally, the disciplines chosen would either combo with each other or serve to boost ourselves in some way.
Fairly obvious drawback: we are bound more closely to The Dark Lord. Honestly, I'm interested in the Additional Boon it would offer. What benefit could we get from being tied more tightly to He-Who-Must-No-Be-Named?
Oh no, we need to wear glasses. Whatever shall we do, suffering under the weight of this terrible curse. Easy pick.
Eh, it's tolerable. We'll just have to guide it towards Heroic Determination, is all. Plus, the Additional Boon here is likely to boost willpower, at least in my view.
Oh boy, all aboard the crazy train. Essentially hard more, greater risk for greater reward. Of course I'm going for it.
Ultimately, I'm fine with taking all the drawbacks which leaves me with one House Boon and the other four boons. I'd expressed that I prefer Gryffindor or Ravenclaw, and l think I'll go with Ravenclaw.
[X] Plan Phenomenal Cosmic Power
-[X] Sage of Raenclaw
-[X] Boy-Who-Lived
-[X] An Equal In Truth
-[X] A Child Prodigy
-[X] Trismegistus
-[X] Mark of the Equal
-[X] Heroic Flaw: Arrogance
-[X] Impaired Eyesight
-[X] Apocryphal Curse
Edit: There's another plan that goes for a full-Drawback build, so I'll approval vote for it. If either my plan or that one have a real shot at winning I'll concentrate my vote-power around just the one, instead.
[X] Plan Subvocals
Edit edit: New max all Drawback plan, this time focused on Hufflepuff.
[X] Plan Max Lightning
-[X] Lord of Hufflepuff
-[X] Boy-Who-Lived
-[X] An Equal In Truth
-[X] A Child Prodigy
-[X] Trismegistus
-[X] Mark of the Equal
-[X] Heroic Flaw: Arrogance
-[X] Impaired Eyesight
-[X] Apocryphal Curse
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Gabbie
That One Writer
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I'm not voting for that anymore, though.
KidFromPallet
Pokemon Fan
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Oh, sorry to bother you, I must have missed that. Gonna quick edit my post to put in a plan then.
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[X] Plan Huffle, Huffle, Toil and Trouble
Harry isn't arrogant, especially in the first few books. I can see the case for book 5 Harry, but books 1-4 Harry is still pretty respectful to authority. It's book 4 where it shifts - with authorities not believing he'd not entered his name in the Cup, the betrayal of Crouch, and people not believing that He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named is back that causes him to believe he knows better than everyone else.
Harry isn't arrogant, especially in the first few books. I can see the case for book 5 Harry, but books 1-4 Harry is still pretty respectful to authority. It's book 4 where it shifts - with authorities not believing he'd not entered his name in the Cup, the betrayal of Crouch, and people not believing that He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named is back that causes him to believe he knows better than everyone else.
Kufufu
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[X] plan: I'll take your entire stock
-[X] Sage of Ravenclaw
-[X] An Equal In Truth
-[X] A Child Prodigy
-[X] Boy-Who-Lived
-[X] Mark of the Equal
-[X] Impaired Eyesight
-[X] Heroic Flaw: Arrogance
-[X] Apocryphal Curse
I know how much it sucks to give your players cool options and then have them take none of them, so let's make our QMs day and give him access to every knife they could possibly ever want!
(Also: GROWTH BONUSES FOR THE WIIIIIIIIN)
-[X] Sage of Ravenclaw
-[X] An Equal In Truth
-[X] A Child Prodigy
-[X] Boy-Who-Lived
-[X] Mark of the Equal
-[X] Impaired Eyesight
-[X] Heroic Flaw: Arrogance
-[X] Apocryphal Curse
I know how much it sucks to give your players cool options and then have them take none of them, so let's make our QMs day and give him access to every knife they could possibly ever want!
(Also: GROWTH BONUSES FOR THE WIIIIIIIIN)
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[X] Plan Subvocals
-[X] Heir of Slytherin
-[X] Boy-Who-Lived
-[X] An Equal In Truth
-[X] A Child Prodigy
-[X] Trismegistus
-[X] Mark of the Equal
-[X] Impaired Eyesight
-[X] Heroic Flaw: Arrogance
-[X] Apocryphal Curse
I like Slytherin Harry. Always have. Courage is something you have to find when it counts, not something that owns and defines you.
Otherwise, it says all curses make for closest to canon Harry. As lying during a build vote is counterproductive, I'm going to assume that's true.
-[X] Heir of Slytherin
-[X] Boy-Who-Lived
-[X] An Equal In Truth
-[X] A Child Prodigy
-[X] Trismegistus
-[X] Mark of the Equal
-[X] Impaired Eyesight
-[X] Heroic Flaw: Arrogance
-[X] Apocryphal Curse
I like Slytherin Harry. Always have. Courage is something you have to find when it counts, not something that owns and defines you.
Otherwise, it says all curses make for closest to canon Harry. As lying during a build vote is counterproductive, I'm going to assume that's true.
"My fist is tired, come back later." -Harry 'Justice' Potter
OctarineShrike
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Potentially Relevant for House Ponderances Words of Birdsie from the DIscord(7-day link to the discord in question here Join the Games in Silver Discord Server!):
Just because you have House Blessing X doesn't mean you have to get sorted into a given house as Lord of Hufflepuff indicates.
Hufflepuff
They are literally subject to magically binding Loyalty oaths to one another.
Slytherin
Ravenclaw
Gryffindor
Slytherin is King Arthur. Gryffindor is Lancelot. Ravenclaw is Merlin or Orochimaru. Hufflepuff is Morgan Le Fay. Though Merlin and Morgan Le Fay could easily switch places.
Just because you have House Blessing X doesn't mean you have to get sorted into a given house as Lord of Hufflepuff indicates.
Hufflepuff
They are literally subject to magically binding Loyalty oaths to one another.
Slytherin
Ravenclaw
Gryffindor
Slytherin is King Arthur. Gryffindor is Lancelot. Ravenclaw is Merlin or Orochimaru. Hufflepuff is Morgan Le Fay. Though Merlin and Morgan Le Fay could easily switch places.
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[X]Plan Intelligence and Will, Power and Skill
[X] Plan Subvocals
[X] Plan Phenomenal Cosmic Power
[X] Plan Lightning
[X] Plan Max Lightning
[X] Plan Subvocals
[X] Plan Phenomenal Cosmic Power
[X] Plan Lightning
[X] Plan Max Lightning
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Birdsie
Sharp Talons Cleave The Worthy
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Both of them. You are forgiven, for the time.