H+ Mayhem (Worm)

Are they really having this conversation in the middle of his lab, in the middle of Coil's base?

Edit: or do I have my locations mixed up
 
"Skitter, if you drag her into this I will remove your legs and graft them onto your neck. Sveta is a non-combatant." I warned.

"I could help. I'm not very fast, but I'm not easy to hurt…" Sveta began.

"Non-combatant." I told her firmly.

I d'awwed at this.

And dammit Taylor, that is not how you sell bringing down the organization from the inside.
 
I forgot how idealistic Taylor was before her 7th betrayal.
7th betrayal? I came up with more than that.
1. Emma
2-5. Brian, Lisa, Alec, Rachel (problems about Dinah)
6. Armsmaster #1 (trying to kill her during the Leviathan fight)
7. Protectorate (aftermath of finding out Sophia = Shadow Stalker)
8. Dinah giving the Protectorate a plan to try capturing Taylor
9-10. Armsmaster + Dragon (public unmasking at Arcadia)
11. Director Tagg for ordering the public unmasking (resulting in his death)
12. Alexandria for pretending to kill her friends (resulting in Alexandria's death)
 
7th betrayal? I came up with more than that.
1. Emma
2-5. Brian, Lisa, Alec, Rachel (problems about Dinah)
6. Armsmaster #1 (trying to kill her during the Leviathan fight)
7. Protectorate (aftermath of finding out Sophia = Shadow Stalker)
8. Dinah giving the Protectorate a plan to try capturing Taylor
9-10. Armsmaster + Dragon (public unmasking at Arcadia)
11. Director Tagg for ordering the public unmasking (resulting in his death)
12. Alexandria for pretending to kill her friends (resulting in Alexandria's death)

Oh there were many more, but she actually starts getting jaded around the middle there.
 
"All crime in the Bay, huh?" I asked, slightly annoyed.
"Even the crime that I'm doing? Because I like that crime."

"There aren't enough of us for that. Sveta, when I lost consciousness earlier, did you catch me?" I asked.

"Um, yes." Sveta said.
Of course she did. Sveta is a good girl.

"There's really someone out there who's power is to make evil clones?" She asked again.

"Yes, and she cannot be used as a force multiplication to blanket the city with crime fighting Skitters." I said.

"Even if you master them?" Skitter asked.
Skitter sure doesn't take long to switch back and forth between "we should be heroes" and "we should use a mind-controlled army of evil clones! To be heroes!"

Actually… that might be a good idea. I could even do it with my own clone, get another pair of Tinker hands working on things. An almost infinite supply of capes to drown the Slaughterhouse Nine in…
Don't give Adam ideas.

"I'm going to have to wake up my clone to test this stupid Protocol." I muttered.
There are almost certainly better ways to get somebody to try to punch you than awakening your evil clone.

"And you heard this from her?" I asked. The buzzing intensified, and it was my turn to glare. I shook my head. "No, I don't think that she is working against Coil. I made her a bomb when she first came to me. I gave her an innocuous little button to be placed in the hand of whoever was manipulating her, and I gave her a way to detonate it. If Coil was controlling Tattletale, he would be dead."
If Coil's power works the way that I think it does, then long term threats seem to be the way to deal with him. If Mayhem can get a killswitch of some sort on him, then if Coil has forked his timelines after that point then there's nothing he can do about it. If it kills quickly, he wouldn't even know the cause of his own death, would he?

The useful thing here is that Coil's power is countered by something that Adam would try to do anyway, even without knowing what Coil's power is.

"I want this to be very clear Mayhem. You, and I are currently working as enforcers for someone who runs drugs and a big prostitution ring.
"We should start our own team! With blackjack, and... not hookers!"

"Fine. Ignore that the Bay underworld would be more stable with us in charge. Ignore the crimes we could stop simply by being more feared than the Police, PRT and New Wave combined. You, me and maybe Tattletale can't fight the rest of the Grey."

"Yes we can, and you didn't even list Sveta?" Skitter said.
Skitter is fucking crazy, and Sveta would probably try to kill everyone if you asked her to help you do it. She's a helper. Their odds aren't all that bad, actually.

Tattletale could probably make insane amounts of money with high stakes poker.

"Skitter, if you drag her into this I will remove your legs and graft them onto your neck. Sveta is a non-combatant." I warned.

"I could help. I'm not very fast, but I'm not easy to hurt…" Sveta began.

"Non-combatant." I told her firmly.

"Um, yes. All right." She said, backing down.
That's why he gave her kinetic blasters, missile launchers, and a lightsaber. Standard non-combatant loadout.

Tattletale was right. You two really can be counted as one unit.
"Squeeeee."
 
...You know, Skitter is probably the one person in the group who would react better to Adam if she knew what his grand master plan is (and hence that he's not just another Tinker who cares more about making the rockets go up than where precisely they come down).

Now if only she didn't have Tattletale on speed dial. Because Tatletale would not react better to being told that the master plan is "bait the S9 in and then throw all the gadgets at them".
 
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So, Taylor's prompting here got me wondering about a bit of info...

Does she know the exact details of how Mayhem's first meeting with the PRT went? I might be remembering wrong here, but 'non-Protectorate Hero' is categorically not an option for him and never will be. Is there a reason he didn't mention that?
 
I KNEW it! That sneaky bastard!

See? SEE? THIS is why we need Tinkers! If I had a Tinker, I could pop that rat bastard out and replace it with something better. Something more efficient. Something with MISSILES.

I was hoping it wouldn't come to this. Skitter was easiest cape on the team to externally augment, and I guess she was… sort of a friend, if not a close one. I didn't want to lose her.
I think Adam can already read the writing on the wall, here. And I can't say I disagree with his conclusion. Skitter's just too idealistic to be able to convince to run the long game OR the "lesser of two evils" option. She's got a very black and white mentality until it's beaten out of her in canon.

H+ should be a harmless protocol, in theory, so I had decided that I could use a verbal or silent activation code, instead of a mix of both, like I was currently using for Mayhem. It wasn't like the silent activation code was likely to happen, it would be like your arm twitching without any real explanation why. Unlikely to happen unless something startles you
...um. I see a "should" and SEVERAL "not like" or "unlikely to" in there, Adam. HAVE YOU LEARNED NOTHING FROM MAYHEM, YOU KNOB?!

Then again, thinking about it, I don't think I could get Sveta to hurt me if I tried. So there was that
Well... maybe if you asked nicely and set a safe word in advance....

I was learning. I hadn't spilled Noelle's secrets this time
Yay! You did well. You may have one (1) cookie from the cookie jar.

I was worried about why you had a clone tied down to a table in your lab, and Tattletale told me what she knew.
"I was worried it was some sort of kinky sex thing and... why are you blushing? ...oh, Adam. You DIDN'T."

"IT WAS A VALID SCIENTIFIC EXPERIMENT!"

Actually… that might be a good idea. I could even do it with my own clone, get another pair of Tinker hands working on things. An almost infinite supply of capes to drown the Slaughterhouse Nine in…
I'm not saying Adam has a one track mind. It's just that all the tracks end up at the exact same station....

"Look, just throw a punch at me, I can patch you back together if something goes wrong."
"Look, I SAID I'll patch you up! Just help me find your other arm and I'll have you back together in no time!"

"Keep your swarm out of my lab or I'll feed it to my flesh farms." I told her.
Again, flesh farms. That's an actual thing Adam has. (Remember: Flesh farms, not any other kind of farm.)

Eventually the silence needed words, and I supplied them.
"Nitwit! Blubber! Oddment! Tweak!" (I'm not sure if it's a good thing or a bad thing that I didn't need to look those up.)

Tinkers don't do well alone.
*glances at Sveta*
*glances at Adam*
*nudges The Chart closer*
Now kisssssssss....

Purity would have turned on me if she was smart enough to know that she should have turned on me.
*winces* OUCH. I'd say something here, but... man, truth hurts.

I was sure you would betray me too, but I hoped I could put it off,
Okay, now... quick! Mention how you'd hoped that her being your friend would help her not betray you! Really HAMMER that betrayal aspect! It won't stop her from doing it, but it might make her feel bad when you're rotting in the Birdcage! (Because we all know that's where they're gonna try to send you, the fools.)

I was going to upgrade the other one to be it's mirror soon, with the splitting fingers, and reinforce my legs.
FINALLY the legs! Look at all that wasted space, man!

Tattletale is on our side.
That is a straight up bullshit lie. Tattletale is on TATTLETALE'S side. If she can manage to help the people she likes as she goes, that's fine. But she is NOT altruistic in any sense of the word.

"And you heard this from her?" I asked. The buzzing intensified, and it was my turn to glare. I shook my head. "No, I don't think that she is working against Coil. I made her a bomb when she first came to me. I gave her an innocuous little button to be placed in the hand of whoever was manipulating her, and I gave her a way to detonate it. If Coil was controlling Tattletale, he would be dead."
And THIS is all complete valid and logic. I absolutely cannot argue against most anything Adam's said here.

"Maybe she wants to weed all the traitors out at once, with enough evidence that people won't just accuse her of making things up." I said.
It's not paranoia if people actually ARE after you. ...and given who Adam completely and honestly expects to be after him, there's no such thing as TOO MUCH paranoia.

We can form our own team.
A team that is ON THE CHART!

Did you know that all hero and rogue Tinkers are required to submit their work for review by the PRT before activation?
How the fuck do they enforce THAT? Seriously, that's gotta be a nightmare to regulate.

It's why Toybox went into pocket universes. They don't have to follow the law if they're not technically on American soil. The PRT is still trying to go after them.
The PRT took a lot of advice from their good friends, the RIAA and the MPAA. Don't let little things like "laws" and "international borders" stop you!

I looked at Sveta. Honestly I'd forgotten she was there. The girl was quietly sitting on a stool, watching us. She was very unobtrusive when she wanted to be.
She has a Niceness 12+ rating, which somehow gives her a Don't Mind Me rating of at least 7!

"Skitter, if you drag her into this I will remove your legs and graft them onto your neck. Sveta is a non-combatant." I warned.
You know, I really appreciate how Adam's a complete monster... but he has certain people who he WILL protect, god dammit.

Tattletale was right. You two really can be counted as one unit.
*puerile giggle* Tattletale's been talking about your unit, Adam!

Everyone except Coil? What was that about? I thought he was successfully tagged with a handshake ages ago.
See? And now you know something you didn't know before! Skitter's blind optimism is helping!

I stayed away from biological weaponry, I have no idea how to work that technology.
Because:
  1. That's a great way to get a Kill Order FAST.
  2. He doesn't want to horn in on his sister's thing, you know?
(Also, I'm STILL waiting for that to come out. Seriously, I can't wait. Can you imagine it? "I have a very simple goal. My sister was taken from me when I was young. I'm going to get better at Tinkering. I'm going to use that skill to find her. And then... I'm going to KILL HER. Because I love her.")

"So. We still have time. We take out who we can, give what information we have to the PRT, and work on improving, so when the next gang comes, we'll be ready." Skitter said.
Yes. Let's just make a gang that's based on a series of betrayals of OTHER GANGS YOU'VE JOINED. That'll be a swell way to get a GREAT reputation among all the various hero groups! Whoo-hoo!

*facepalm* God, I don't like the way Skitter was fucked over in canon, but... seriously, her cynical, never-trust-anyone attitude was SO MUCH better than "I'm a good guy doing good because that's what good guys do and everything I do is good because I'm a good guy!"

7th betrayal? I came up with more than that.
1. Emma
2-5. Brian, Lisa, Alec, Rachel (problems about Dinah)
6. Armsmaster #1 (trying to kill her during the Leviathan fight)
7. Protectorate (aftermath of finding out Sophia = Shadow Stalker)
8. Dinah giving the Protectorate a plan to try capturing Taylor
9-10. Armsmaster + Dragon (public unmasking at Arcadia)
11. Director Tagg for ordering the public unmasking (resulting in his death)
12. Alexandria for pretending to kill her friends (resulting in Alexandria's death)
Pretty sure you forgot Coil trying to kill her in that list. (It sticks in the memory. "DON'T USE GRENADES!")

"Even the crime that I'm doing? Because I like that crime."
"My crime is cheeky and fun!"

There are almost certainly better ways to get somebody to try to punch you than awakening your evil clone.
Have you tried, say, slapping one of the female members of The Grey on the ass? Not only would it work, it would be HILARIOUS.

Skitter is fucking crazy, and Sveta would probably try to kill everyone if you asked her to help you do it. She's a helper.
Helper 8 or 9, easy.

That's why he gave her kinetic blasters, missile launchers, and a lightsaber. Standard non-combatant loadout.
Well, yeah. That's just the bare minimum for living in Brockton Bay. You should see his combatant loadout. It involves the words "M-29 Davy Crockett."

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Wait, wait... he put a bomb inside Tattletale's throat? I thought it was just something that would stop her from talking without exploding her? God damn Thinkers and Tinkers with their sneaky talk.
No, he put the bomb in the BUTTON. The detonator trigger is in her face, thanks to Adam rebuilding it. She can blow up the button at any point.

Other than the mute switch, the only thing he stuck in her throat was that microphone. (Unless you've been reading my fanfic, of course. *eyebrow waggle*)
 
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Wait, wait... he put a bomb inside Tattletale's throat? I thought it was just something that would stop her from talking without exploding her? God damn Thinkers and Tinkers with their sneaky talk.
 
Wait, wait... he put a bomb inside Tattletale's throat? I thought it was just something that would stop her from talking without exploding her? God damn Thinkers and Tinkers with their sneaky talk.

No, he put a bomb in the remote that has the mute button. It'll let her blow up Coil, though she's likely realized the man she's dealing with is a body double and she still doesn't know what Coil's power is, hence why she hasn't used it yet.
 
I don't know how the evil clone thing is going to end badly, but it will. It will.

In regards to H+, he's only using mental activation for subtlety and speed. But as we all know that's dumb. Instead of a verbal command, which admittedly is too obvious and takes to long, why not just make it a subtle physical command? Like quickly tracing your tongue in a specific manner on the back of your teeth, or fiddling with your toes in a calculated pattern?
Other than the mute switch, the only thing he stuck in her throat was that microphone. (Unless you've been reading my fanfic, of course. *eyebrow waggle*)
Double checked. You don't have a Worm fanfic, or a fanfic at all. YOU LIAR!
 
Skitter was easiest cape on the team to externally augment, and I guess she was… sort of a friend, if not a close one. I didn't want to lose her.
was the easiest cape
"There's really someone out there who's power is to make evil clones?" She asked again.
whose power is to
They weren't that hard to make anymore, I'd bought a bit more out of the power-source, and then now lasted several minutes before they destroyed themselves
and they now lasted
I'm not entirely sure Taylor's attempt at persuading our protag to leave Coil was all that effective. Or morally sticking, considering the swapping between 'be heroes' and 'be heroes with an army of mind-controlled evil clones'.
 
I'm not entirely sure Taylor's attempt at persuading our protag to leave Coil was all that effective. Or morally sticking, considering the swapping between 'be heroes' and 'be heroes with an army of mind-controlled evil clones'.

Thanks, corrections fixed.

She's still Taylor, she's just still got some preconceptions that she lost fairly early in canon. She actually has a working, supportive school life in this fic, and figuring out what that would do to someone like Taylor is interesting.
 
Man, all this "Can you mind control *Insert whoever* so we can be heroes?" really shows how the Shard that would become Khepri is fucking with her head. I mean, does she even hear herself?!
 
Man, all this "Can you mind control *Insert whoever* so we can be heroes?" really shows how the Shard that would become Khepri is fucking with her head. I mean, does she even hear herself?!

Doesn't take spacewhale mindfuckery for a naive optimist to think that kind of thought.

Taylor is still pretty thoroughly a child here, and to a child 'well, let's not worry about the middle part, as long as the ending is good' is perfectly reasonable.
 
Doesn't take spacewhale mindfuckery for a naive optimist to think that kind of thought.

Taylor is still pretty thoroughly a child here, and to a child 'well, let's not worry about the middle part, as long as the ending is good' is perfectly reasonable.

I'm pretty sure she should know that mindrape is bad. After all, that's why people fear Masters, even if they don't actually mindrape people, because the PRT has made that connection(Master=mindrape) be well known, not to mention the mere knowledge of Masters like Heartbreaker and others.
 
Double checked. You don't have a Worm fanfic, or a fanfic at all. YOU LIAR!
Ha! WRONG! I DO have fanfic! It's just been over a decade since I wrote any and OH GOD I'M OLD. GOD DAMN YOU TO HELL, YOU DAMN KIDS.

I'm pretty sure she should know that mindrape is bad. After all, that's why people fear Masters, even if they don't actually mindrape people, because the PRT has made that connection(Master=mindrape) be well known, not to mention the mere knowledge of Masters like Heartbreaker and others.
Yeah, but you see... those are BAD GUYS doing things to GOOD GUYS. What she's suggesting is doing things to BAD GUYS to make them GOOD GUYS, which is TOTALLY different! Because they're GOOD GUYS, see!

...yes, this is seriously the train of logic she's probably using. "It's okay because we're the good guys."
 
I'm pretty sure she should know that mindrape is bad. After all, that's why people fear Masters, even if they don't actually mindrape people, because the PRT has made that connection(Master=mindrape) be well known, not to mention the mere knowledge of Masters like Heartbreaker and others.

Clones are easy to dismiss as not being 'real people' if you don't stop to think about it hard. Especially if they are power created 'evil clones.'

...yes, this is seriously the train of logic she's probably using. "It's okay because we're the good guys."

Just like in canon.
 
Clones are easy to dismiss as not being 'real people' if you don't stop to think about it hard. Especially if they are power created 'evil clones.'
Do you want Androsynth? Because this is how you get Androsynth.

Ha! WRONG! I DO have fanfic! It's just been over a decade since I wrote any and OH GOD I'M OLD. GOD DAMN YOU TO HELL, YOU DAMN KIDS.

Datcord is old. Very old.

Old as balls.
 
Good news, or just news, depending on how you look at it. I think we're going to have a sixth arc. I was expecting to resolve these sub-plots a little bit quicker.

I'm really glad to hear that. I'm enjoying this to a great degree; you've got a knack for characters and they aren't idiots in unbelievable ways.

"Evil clones?" She asked
Lowercase "she"

as a force multiplication
"as force multiplication" or "as a force multiplier."

one to be it's mirror soon, with the splitting fingers, and reinforce my legs.

"its", no apostrophe.
 
Man, all this "Can you mind control *Insert whoever* so we can be heroes?" really shows how the Shard that would become Khepri is fucking with her head. I mean, does she even hear herself?!

I'm pretty sure she should know that mindrape is bad. After all, that's why people fear Masters, even if they don't actually mindrape people, because the PRT has made that connection(Master=mindrape) be well known, not to mention the mere knowledge of Masters like Heartbreaker and others.

Look at who the closest thing she has to a positive role model is at this point.
 
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