Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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[X]Plan Water Dragon
Also, if we want to face someone who normally throws around 20 dice worth 'casually' we 'need' to invest as much as possible in it 'now!'
You're making an assumption that we'll have enough stories, and those will net us enough XP between now and the meeting. Especially since we're needing to get Lydia stated up as well.
Also, if we want to face someone who normally throws around 20 dice worth 'casually' we 'need' to invest as much as possible in it 'now!'
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[X]Plan Water Dragon
Ah, fine. Plan I want isn't going to win, and I care more about MiS than the Technology Excellency, anyway.
Ah, fine. Plan I want isn't going to win, and I care more about MiS than the Technology Excellency, anyway.
I agree that long-term it's very, very useful. But why do we need it now? How do we plan to quickly transform it into more XP?
There's a big difference between "I mind control my friend into not being addict and it goes wrong" and "I give my friend a potion that deals with biochemical addiction". Because there are two parts to an addiction - mental, and biochemical. And rehab centers absolutely deal with biochemical addiction using various kinds of medicines. Making something better in the same vein is not morally dubious at all.
Which is why I made Potential of Waves and Wastes plan. Where I do buy Etiquette. Mercy in Servitude won't help us deal with Mab at all.
But why do we need it now? Who are we going to use it on ?
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Now that we know that we are going to be sharing both XP and achievements with Lydia we should try to send her to achieve things independently from us. Otherwise she is just a drain.
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[X]Plan Water Dragon
Indeed. Which is why Essence 2 is the best choice for her now. After that ghost-related and summoning abilities. So she can have her own minions and can deal with serious enemies on her lonesome.and can get places with the Carriage of Ankou.
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Does using Rendered Villain Dispersal to travel really work for us at the moment? Fairly sure that we can't bring other people with us using that method.
Yzarc
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We gain xp from getting minions and having them do ghjngs like building that Nest.
It is up to vote next turn. So depending on how we vote, we may only share xp this turn.
We don't need to. The uses of RVD are twofold:
1) an ability to have a bleach bath anywhere by having a pendant with bleach on us at all times. This grants us easy essence regeneration and the ability to substitute excellency for dots in technology by spamming it.
2) An ability to travel long distances on our own. This makes us able to quickly and covertly hop between various locations. At the very least Great Lakes are becomes open to us. We can do small scale solo operations with it, supplementing our xp income. And if we can use ground water by dispersing in wells, we could travel through Chicago too.
True. But, on the balance, which is more likely to grant us more xp? Mercy in Servitude does not compel service, it merely rewards it, after all.
Addiction-be-gone sourced from raw impossibility and what you're describing now are two different things.
It doesn't really matter though; her addiction has been burned out and replaced by an anti -drug derangement.
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Achievement for the next arc
- Make Dresden a computer
- Get Dresden to accept the computer
- Build the dragon nest
- Take over the ghoul population in undertown
- Location
- Brazil
It might not compel obedience, but given our DC decreases charms, high social skills, and the alleviation of their long-term torments (plus the fact that MiS won't act if our orders aren't followed) the chance of them actually not obeying us is, in my opinion, low.
Whampires, actually. Maybe the gouls and the other CoD too, but the whampires were the initial targets in most planes. as fair as I know.
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fictionfan
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We are likely to have more problems with loyal, but still very evil beings trying to do stuff for us on their own initiative.
Although if MIS plus our current charms and socials isn't enough Infernals have lots of other ways to gain followers or compel obedience. MIS should be enough for low hanging fruit though.
So we want to get Tomas as a minion? That might be trickier then the ghouls. Well assuming that we don't want to use intimidation on him.
Then again I can see the scene. Tomas and Molly are in the same place.
Molly "Restrain your aura or I will stop restraining mine"
"Ok you asked for it." DPE and Tomas gets extremely scararoused.
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While that's possibly true for certain types of CoD, we're already in a situation like that with our Cyber Demon aren't we? Just do the same thing we do with them.
That's true. But then what do we need to have Mercy In Servitude for? Yes, it can hold white hunger from affecting White Court vampires. But I am fairly sure they're still going to need to feed if they were to use their supernatural abilities.
And besides, what use do we have for minions at this point? Specifically for White Court minions. Anything they can do to help building the Dragon's Nest can be done with Tool Transcending Constructs. They could try to secure or map the underground maybe. We could maybe send them out to do our bidding, like earn us money, but it's unlikely that they can earn much- these are the dregs of society, after all.
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The Cyber Demons are much more strongly bound then we are going to get with just MIS.
Mostly for the achievement XP. But also just because we want to deal with a bunch of predators that are preying on humanity without killing them all. MIS means that we have another option.
The ghouls of under town aren't likely to be very useful to us besides generally letting us know about any other dark forces getting active down there. But we aren't really taking them over for our own sake. It's actually more for their sake.
White court vampire minions would likely be more useful, but we have less to offer them besides ones like Tomas.
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Also remember that DPE also works for leadership rolls when commanding creatures of darkness. We arm a few ghoul with hand guns and we suddenly have a fighting force that fights well above their expected weight class. Surprising everyone about as much as when tiny fairies killed the summer lady.
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I would guess it's the other way around. There are deranged whamps in the underground. However, recruiting them is likely to draw aggro from White Court. We might not want that.
We are a very atypical Infernal, though. And so far haven't done anything evil.
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Maggot Mana Plague. DP spoke up when I asked before that she can replace emotions or other sources of supernatural energies our servants might need.
And I personally want them now as I'm looking forward to having servants of magical beings (specifically Whampires and Wild Fae) from the start of the quest, plus they'll also increase the security of the our DN for when we're not there. For me MiS has always been a deal breaker in this poll, as well as future Maggot Mana Plague and Dark Age training charm will be in the future.
While this situation is pretty funny, I'm talking more about the Wampires colony near our Dragon's Nest.
I don't think so, these are the vampires who don't want to feed and so they're... not very well, let's say, if the White Court wanted them eliminated they would have done it. Also, I don't think WC cares about Whampires working for other people as long as they aren't trying to destroy WC strongholds or try to kill the White King.
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That's long term solution though, and requires RVD for easy commute to a place of desolation defined as "a place where Survival rolls are at least difficulty 8". So not applicable right now. We are on a harsh time limit to get as good as we can at social when dealing with Mab.
@uju32
Can we agree to invest in some Perception uppers next time, as that's our biggest weakness?
Perception 3, maybe that All Things Betray charm you mentioned before (can't find it in the book at the moment)?
Maybe points to Empathy?
Honestly, if I thought it stood a single chance, I'd dump everything into the Sea charm, maxing out Empathy and Etiquette, and our Social Attributes as much as possible.
Can we agree to invest in some Perception uppers next time, as that's our biggest weakness?
Perception 3, maybe that All Things Betray charm you mentioned before (can't find it in the book at the moment)?
Maybe points to Empathy?
Honestly, if I thought it stood a single chance, I'd dump everything into the Sea charm, maxing out Empathy and Etiquette, and our Social Attributes as much as possible.
fictionfan
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RVD only transports us so it would not help in that way anyway. Also it's a place of desolation (defined as a place where Survival rolls are at least difficulty 8, or where most of the inhabitants feel despair at the state of their lives).
Under town likely currently qualifies.