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Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

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Is the caste mark showing? And what is the caste mark anyway, or have such things been lost on the aeons the yozi have been blocking calls?
 
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Okay, wait, so is summoning Mab actually a good idea right now? I literally don't know. We need to find out how much trouble we're in right now, and it looks like that's either getting Mouse to talk, summoning Mab to ask questions, or burning one or more questions from the Crown. If someone has another option feel free to chip in, though.
 
bengalqueen said:
Okay, wait, so is summoning Mab actually a good idea right now? I literally don't know. We need to find out how much trouble we're in right now, and it looks like that's either getting Mouse to talk, summoning Mab to ask questions, or burning one or more questions from the Crown. If someone has another option feel free to chip in, though.
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Well you could try to convince Mouse to tell you who Harry was talking with about this.
 
bengalqueen said:
Okay, wait, so is summoning Mab actually a good idea right now? I literally don't know. We need to find out how much trouble we're in right now, and it looks like that's either getting Mouse to talk, summoning Mab to ask questions, or burning one or more questions from the Crown. If someone has another option feel free to chip in, though.
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Summoning Mab is still a terrible idea. People are just being silly. Silly is a generous adjective here, people think they're being funny or that this is a crack quest and consequences don't matter.

Mab isn't going to do the job of her lackey for them, and Harry isn't the Winter Knight yet so he's not getting any freebies.

Best case, she'd offer to send her lawyer in to deal with things in exchange for a favor owed.

Worst case, she'd send the Redcap in to kill Greene's wife and other FBI while Harry is in custody to clear his name.

Well, no, that's not nearly worst case, it's just an obvious evil solution. Worst case is much much worse.
 
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DragonParadox said:
OOC:If the Mab Mab Mab vote had actually won somehow the results would have been interesting.
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I assume that 'interesting' is Dragon Paradox code for 'rainbows and happiness and Molly would have gotten a unicorn'.

Anyway, onto the vote.

[X] Mab. Mab. Mab.

Maybe she'll have some helpful advice about whether you should respect your wizard crush's privacy.
 
drake_azathoth said:
Summoning Mab is still a terrible idea. People are just being silly.

Mab isn't going to do the job of her lackey for them, and Harry isn't the Winter Knight yet so he's not getting any freebies.

Best case, she'd offer to send her lawyer in to deal with things in exchange for a favor owed.

Worst case, she'd send the Redcap in to kill Greene's wife and other FBI while Harry is in custody to clear his name.

Well, no, that's not nearly worst case, it's just an obvious evil solution. Worst case is much much worse.
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She also already dislikes us, so she'd probably find a way to simultaneously screw with us and get a stronger grip on Dresden. Probably by finding a way to get us into trouble and then guilt tripping him into making concessions to protect Molly.

It'd also kill our ability to legitimately claim any sort of responsibility to Molly's parents. If we can't even learn the name of the leader of a court of fae that kidnapped us without summoning them just because we can then Molly lacks the impulse control to be involved in serious business.

FriedIce said:
Maybe she'll have some helpful advice about whether you should respect your wizard crush's privacy.
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Well she live streamed her and Dresden having sex to every reflective surface in her kingdom of millions of evil fey without saying anything to him about it, so my bet is that Mab probably thinks privacy is something mortals spread on toast or something.
 
[X] Yes, you need to know all the trouble he's in if you are going to help him (Charisma+Empathy, can use excellency)
-[X] Molly sighs and kneels to look Mouse in the eyes. "Yeah, I figured. And maybe Harry doesn't want me wrapped up in dangerous stuff. But if that's really true... Harry's used to being alone, but it's a lot easier to get through dangerous stuff together. You know I'm not just a pretty face, and I'm probably one of the best suited to help Harry right now. Who's he looking for?"

Edit: If we absolutely HAVE to get involved with Mab to deal with voter's suicidal tendencies, do it AFTER helping Harry with her job so we're not summoning her and after she may owe us a small favor. Sometimes voting to stick a sword in your heart ends up with you dying, shockingly enough consequences are a thing.
 
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[X] Yes, you need to know all the trouble he's in if you are going to help him (Charisma+Empathy, can use excellency)
-[X] Molly sighs and kneels to look Mouse in the eyes. "Yeah, I figured. And maybe Harry doesn't want me wrapped up in dangerous stuff. But if that's really true... Harry's used to being alone, but it's a lot easier to get through dangerous stuff together. You know I'm not just a pretty face, and I'm probably one of the best suited to help Harry right now. Who's he looking for?"
 
FriedIce said:
OOC because Titania fucking hates Dresden with the power of a million suns for killing her daughter. Mab OTOH is his surrogate fairy god mother
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*Harry's Laenansidhe flashbacks intensify*

Faeries are a necessary part of the magical ecosystem in the same way bears are to the mundane one. That doesn't mean it's a good idea to poke either with a stick.

I get that you're just screwing around, but could you campaign for something less actively suicidal?
 
God i love mouse so fucking much. Best boi, i will vote to kill the white god if anything happens to mouse, no questions asked.


Is there anyway we can boost him, maybe making him a familiar or something.
 
[X] Yes, you need to know all the trouble he's in if you are going to help him (Charisma+Empathy, can use excellency)
-[X] Molly sighs and kneels to look Mouse in the eyes. "Yeah, I figured. And maybe Harry doesn't want me wrapped up in dangerous stuff. But if that's really true... Harry's used to being alone, but it's a lot easier to get through dangerous stuff together. You know I'm not just a pretty face, and I'm probably one of the best suited to help Harry right now. Who's he looking for?"
 
[X] Yes, you need to know all the trouble he's in if you are going to help him (Charisma+Empathy, can use excellency)
-[X] Molly sighs and kneels to look Mouse in the eyes. "Yeah, I figured. And maybe Harry doesn't want me wrapped up in dangerous stuff. But if that's really true... Harry's used to being alone, but it's a lot easier to get through dangerous stuff together. You know I'm not just a pretty face, and I'm probably one of the best suited to help Harry right now. Who's he looking for?"
 
[X] Yes, you need to know all the trouble he's in if you are going to help him (Charisma+Empathy, can use excellency)
-[X] Molly sighs and kneels to look Mouse in the eyes. "Yeah, I figured. And maybe Harry doesn't want me wrapped up in dangerous stuff. But if that's really true... Harry's used to being alone, but it's a lot easier to get through dangerous stuff together. You know I'm not just a pretty face, and I'm probably one of the best suited to help Harry right now. Who's he looking for?"
 
BronzeTongue said:
*Harry's Laenansidhe flashbacks intensify*

Faeries are a necessary part of the magical ecosystem in the same way bears are to the mundane one. That doesn't mean it's a good idea to poke either with a stick.

I get that you're just screwing around, but could you campaign for something less actively suicidal?
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For all that I'm screwing around (and yeah, I'm not going to pretend that I'm not) summoning Mab isn't actually as actively suicidal as everyone makes out for a few reasons
  1. We're only a 1 dot enemy with the Winter Court, which indicates some lower level fae have it in for us. If the Queen of Air and Darkness was our enemy that would be far higher.
  2. Mab was storing our exaltation in her trophy room, and presumably meant for it to be released. If she didn't she could have intervened and stopped it.
  3. Mab is currently filling in for Lea as Harry's Faerie Godmother - now I'm not sure that I'd want to rely on that if I were him, but if called on she can't explicitly make everything worse. She has to at least solve the problem whilst making everything worse.
  4. Mab has a use for Harry, and we're easy to find a use for. She won't just murder us out of hand.
Summoning Mab is still probably not wise but it's not an elaborate form of suicide.

Now summoning Titania to ask about Harry? After he had her daughter killed? That's just asking for the quest to end.
 
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FriedIce said:
We're only a 1 dot enemy with the Winter Court, which indicates some lower level fae have it in for us. If the Queen of Air and Darkness was our enemy that would be far higher.
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No, she is mildly offended by our damaging and escape in Arctis Tor.
She is a 1 Dot enemy because she doesn't care enough to go after us with any serious intensity, but we should definitly not give her an easy opening.
FriedIce said:
  1. Mab was storing our exaltation in her trophy room, and presumably meant for it to be released. If she didn't she could have intervened and stopped it.
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She was busy, the Exaltation was only freed because Harry hit its prison with summer-fire.

FriedIce said:
  1. Mab is currently filling in for Lea as Harry's Faerie Godmother - now I'm not sure that I'd want to rely on that if I were him, but if called on she can't explicitly make everything worse. She has to at least solve the problem whilst making everything worse.
  2. Mab has a use for Harry, and we're easy to find a use for. She won't just murder us out of hand.
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She would propably not kill us outright, but certainly screw us over.
 
Artemis1992 said:
No, she is mildly offended by our damaging and escape in Arctis Tor.
She is a 1 Dot enemy because she doesn't care enough to go after us with any serious intensity, but we should definitly not give her an easy opening
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We don't have the 1 dot enemy 'Mab, Queen of Air and Darkness', we have the 1 dot enemy 'the Winter Court'. And even a moderately irritated Mab who doesn't care enough to go after us seriously counts as more than a 1 dot 'the Winter Court' enemy because she sets tone for the entire court.

Artemis1992 said:
She would propably not kill us outright, but certainly screw us over.
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Hence why I said it wasn't wise, even if it's not also suicidal.
 
FriedIce said:
We don't have the 1 dot enemy 'Mab, Queen of Air and Darkness', we have the 1 dot enemy 'the Winter Court'. And even a moderately irritated Mab who doesn't care enough to go after us seriously counts as more than a 1 dot 'the Winter Court' enemy because she sets tone for the entire court.
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She might not really care that much, but summoning her is like covering yourself in barbecue sauce and walking into a lion's den.

We shouldn't be surprised if Mab takes a bite of the free meal that served itself up to her.
 
[X] Yes, you need to know all the trouble he's in if you are going to help him (Charisma+Empathy, can use excellency)
-[X] Molly sighs and kneels to look Mouse in the eyes. "Yeah, I figured. And maybe Harry doesn't want me wrapped up in dangerous stuff. But if that's really true... Harry's used to being alone, but it's a lot easier to get through dangerous stuff together. You know I'm not just a pretty face, and I'm probably one of the best suited to help Harry right now. Who's he looking for?"
 
I mean, having one of the Fae impersonate a deranged yandere version of Molly and kill Greene's wife and a bunch of FBI is the kind of 'help' you are likely to get from a mildly peeved Mab.

Preserves the Masquerade? Check, Molly is the next best suspect after Dresden and they can totally use a gun to do it. Protects Harry as his temporary fairy godmother? Check, it puts his guilt for prior murders in severe doubt. Gets a mild revenge for ruining Mab's ice sculptures and summoning her without due leave? Also check. Lines Harry up for further debt? Check. It's a solid Mab solution.

I get that it's part being cute and part upset at people dismissing the idea out of hand, but involving Mab really is a terrible idea, to the point it's annoying to see it come up again and again as a joke.
 
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