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Also, I just read the Update fully now that I woke up and if nothing else, we will be getting a ton of xp for the next turn. Hopefully Harry's plot armor holds up.
 
so did people just ignore the part where I said the essence problem isn't a problem since we'd do the car as their leaving obviously as we would be doing it after talking ergo long enough that we wouldn't glow? That or we have to fight in which case none of the glowing stuff matters.
 
Vote closed, let's see how this goes.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Aug 24, 2022 at 2:50 AM, finished with 163 posts and 22 votes.
  • [X] Plan Who are you again? This time with feeling
    -[X] Take out Molly's cell phone and start recording video, making sure to get a clear shot of their faces.
    —[X] Subtly key in orders to Clippy to crosscheck all the information they give us that she can, and in general look into these officers.
    -[X] Tell Harry to shut the hell up until a lawyer arrives, ask for McCoy's number.
    -[X] Ask for each of them to properly show their badges instead of flashing them, so that you can see they're real and have a lawyer speak to them later. Make sure to get clear shots of all documents, and a picture of the license plate of their car.
    -[X] Ask for a physical copy of the arrest warrant, or at least to see the one they have on them.
    -[X] If at any point they become evasive threaten to call the police right then and there and have them sort it out.
    —[X] if they keep evading attempt to call the police and claim some people saying they're feds are trying to arrest a friend of ours, but won't provide <insert whatever they're evasive on here>
    -[X] Use excellency on the direct requests, and being convincing over the phone if we need to call the cops
    -[X] If nothing in the above triggers violence, call Murphy, McCoy, and Micheal in that order to explain the situation. Work out legal support with the last two.
    -[X] As soon as we have a private moment instruct Clippy to begin looking into the parts of the legal system related to this situation, and putting together cliff notes for us.
    —[X] in general instruct her to ping us with a fake text containing useful information related to things people are saying around us, both for this and similar future situations.
    -[X] Follow the car to wherever they're planning to hold Harry, and stay close enough that we're hard to shake
    —[X] if we still have more than 4 essence, put a cyber devil in the car with instructions to protect Harry if they seem to threaten his life, or take him anywhere other than a law enforcement facility.
    [X]Plan Crowned Speaker to Managers
    -[X]Charisma + Intimidation(burn Excellency)
    -[X]Crown of Eyes: 1 Essence per use.
    --[X]Head Agent: Identify everyone in the chain of people giving him orders. If that chain has branches outside the FBI....
    -[X]Key into phone instructions onehanded for Clippy to record everything, and crosscheck names, photos, badge numbers and car license numbers as the alleged officers show them to you.
    -[X]Request proper identification/good look at badges, and copy of arrest warrant if available.
    -[X]When he reaches into suit jacket and phone is visible, spend 1 Essence to cast Hollow Mind Possession on Head Agents phone. Burn 1 WP for autosux.
    -[X]Tell Harry to shut up until his lawyer shows up.
    -[X]Call Murphy first, then Dad for a lawyer.
    -[X]Tell Mouse to hold fort
    -[X]Hollow Mind Possession on car of alleged agents for 1 Essence. Spend 1 WP for autosux.
    -[X]Follow car to FBI building to prevent any detours or foulplay. No blacksites, no swapped cars, no shootings en route.
    [X] Explain that Harry has been with you all day (Charisma+Empathy can use Excellency)
    -[X] Ask for arrest warrant.
    --[X] Have Clippy call FBI and check their identity.
    ---[X] Call Murphy
    [X] Plan Who are you again?
    -[X] Take out Molly's cell phone and start recording video, making sure to get a clear shot of their faces.
    -[X] Ask for each of them to properly show their badges instead of flashing them, so that you can see they're real and have a lawyer speak to them
    -[X] Ask for a physical copy of the arrest warrant
    -[X] If at any point they become evasive threaten to call the police right then and there and have them sort it out.
    —[X] if they keep evading attempt to call the police and claim some people saying they're feds are trying to arrest a friend of ours, but won't provide <insert whatever they're evasive on here>
    -[X] Use excellency on the direct requests, and being convincing over the phone if we need to call the cops
    [X] Explain that Harry has been with you all day (Charisma+Empathy can use Excellency)
    [X]If they are fake(unreasonable) we can still choose violence!
    [X] Excuse you?! Why are there three FBI agents here for a murder arrest? Where's the warrant and the police? Despite what cop dramas say, they can't just cowboy it up here, especially when he's not in the process of a crime!
    -[X] Call Murphy ASAP too.
    [x] crown who is behind this frame job?
    [X] Plan Who are you again? This time with feeling
    -[X] Take out Molly's cell phone and start recording video, making sure to get a clear shot of their faces.
    —[X] Subtly key in orders to Clippy to crosscheck all the information they give us that she can, and in general look into these officers.
    -[X] Tell Harry to shut the hell up until a lawyer arrives, ask for McCoy's number.
    -[X] Ask for each of them to properly show their badges instead of flashing them, so that you can see they're real and have a lawyer speak to them later. Make sure to get clear shots of all documents, and a picture of the license plate of their car.
    -[X] Ask for a physical copy of the arrest warrant, or at least to see the one they have on them.
    -[X] If at any point they become evasive threaten to call the police right then and there and have them sort it out.
    —[X] if they keep evading attempt to call the police and claim some people saying they're feds are trying to arrest a friend of ours, but won't provide <insert
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DragonParadox said:
Vote closed, let's see how this goes.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Aug 24, 2022 at 2:50 AM, finished with 163 posts and 22 votes.
  • [X] Plan Who are you again? This time with feeling
    -[X] Take out Molly's cell phone and start recording video, making sure to get a clear shot of their faces.
    —[X] Subtly key in orders to Clippy to crosscheck all the information they give us that she can, and in general look into these officers.
    -[X] Tell Harry to shut the hell up until a lawyer arrives, ask for McCoy's number.
    -[X] Ask for each of them to properly show their badges instead of flashing them, so that you can see they're real and have a lawyer speak to them later. Make sure to get clear shots of all documents, and a picture of the license plate of their car.
    -[X] Ask for a physical copy of the arrest warrant, or at least to see the one they have on them.
    -[X] If at any point they become evasive threaten to call the police right then and there and have them sort it out.
    —[X] if they keep evading attempt to call the police and claim some people saying they're feds are trying to arrest a friend of ours, but won't provide <insert whatever they're evasive on here>
    -[X] Use excellency on the direct requests, and being convincing over the phone if we need to call the cops
    -[X] If nothing in the above triggers violence, call Murphy, McCoy, and Micheal in that order to explain the situation. Work out legal support with the last two.
    -[X] As soon as we have a private moment instruct Clippy to begin looking into the parts of the legal system related to this situation, and putting together cliff notes for us.
    —[X] in general instruct her to ping us with a fake text containing useful information related to things people are saying around us, both for this and similar future situations.
    -[X] Follow the car to wherever they're planning to hold Harry, and stay close enough that we're hard to shake
    —[X] if we still have more than 4 essence, put a cyber devil in the car with instructions to protect Harry if they seem to threaten his life, or take him anywhere other than a law enforcement facility.
    [X]Plan Crowned Speaker to Managers
    -[X]Charisma + Intimidation(burn Excellency)
    -[X]Crown of Eyes: 1 Essence per use.
    --[X]Head Agent: Identify everyone in the chain of people giving him orders. If that chain has branches outside the FBI....
    -[X]Key into phone instructions onehanded for Clippy to record everything, and crosscheck names, photos, badge numbers and car license numbers as the alleged officers show them to you.
    -[X]Request proper identification/good look at badges, and copy of arrest warrant if available.
    -[X]When he reaches into suit jacket and phone is visible, spend 1 Essence to cast Hollow Mind Possession on Head Agents phone. Burn 1 WP for autosux.
    -[X]Tell Harry to shut up until his lawyer shows up.
    -[X]Call Murphy first, then Dad for a lawyer.
    -[X]Tell Mouse to hold fort
    -[X]Hollow Mind Possession on car of alleged agents for 1 Essence. Spend 1 WP for autosux.
    -[X]Follow car to FBI building to prevent any detours or foulplay. No blacksites, no swapped cars, no shootings en route.
    [X] Explain that Harry has been with you all day (Charisma+Empathy can use Excellency)
    -[X] Ask for arrest warrant.
    --[X] Have Clippy call FBI and check their identity.
    ---[X] Call Murphy
    [X] Plan Who are you again?
    -[X] Take out Molly's cell phone and start recording video, making sure to get a clear shot of their faces.
    -[X] Ask for each of them to properly show their badges instead of flashing them, so that you can see they're real and have a lawyer speak to them
    -[X] Ask for a physical copy of the arrest warrant
    -[X] If at any point they become evasive threaten to call the police right then and there and have them sort it out.
    —[X] if they keep evading attempt to call the police and claim some people saying they're feds are trying to arrest a friend of ours, but won't provide <insert whatever they're evasive on here>
    -[X] Use excellency on the direct requests, and being convincing over the phone if we need to call the cops
    [X] Explain that Harry has been with you all day (Charisma+Empathy can use Excellency)
    [X]If they are fake(unreasonable) we can still choose violence!
    [X] Excuse you?! Why are there three FBI agents here for a murder arrest? Where's the warrant and the police? Despite what cop dramas say, they can't just cowboy it up here, especially when he's not in the process of a crime!
    -[X] Call Murphy ASAP too.
    [x] crown who is behind this frame job?
    [X] Plan Who are you again? This time with feeling
    -[X] Take out Molly's cell phone and start recording video, making sure to get a clear shot of their faces.
    —[X] Subtly key in orders to Clippy to crosscheck all the information they give us that she can, and in general look into these officers.
    -[X] Tell Harry to shut the hell up until a lawyer arrives, ask for McCoy's number.
    -[X] Ask for each of them to properly show their badges instead of flashing them, so that you can see they're real and have a lawyer speak to them later. Make sure to get clear shots of all documents, and a picture of the license plate of their car.
    -[X] Ask for a physical copy of the arrest warrant, or at least to see the one they have on them.
    -[X] If at any point they become evasive threaten to call the police right then and there and have them sort it out.
    —[X] if they keep evading attempt to call the police and claim some people saying they're feds are trying to arrest a friend of ours, but won't provide <insert
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Given that it involves Harry "It was not my fault" Dresden? Probably with things being set of fire. Now, if the fire is green or not is the question.
 
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Arc 2 Post 13: Papers and Prognostications
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    21st of July 2006 A.D.

    Once the first flash of shock passes you remember what your mom once told you do do if you think you might be the victim of an abuse of power , you take our your phone and start recording. Clippy does not need to see more than 'rec' before Recording Mistress fleshes on screen, writ in hellfire blue of her eyes. 'Cross-check everything they tell us'.

    "Harry stop talking until we get a lawyer in here," you say, your voice surprising you with how even it is, no trace of anger and fear. "I'm going to need..." Who on earth can you call, dad? You don't know if dad knows any lawyers, he has never needed one to get out of trouble for Knight stuff. "Mr McCoy's number."

    "I think he is too busy to be taking calls Molly," he answers with a look that makes it crystal clear he wishes you would just stay out of this and not get in trouble. Well that is too bad for him, you are not going to leave him high and try to get framed and you figure getting a lawyer is less problematic than breaking him out of jail by carving the door up with a flaming sword. Let's call that Plan B...

    "You do not want to get involved in this Miss...?" the lead agent trails the warning into a question, though you note the guy with the cuffs has stopped and he is looking very hard at your phone. Worried about being recorded? No, he's looking between your phone and Harry... like he is expecting it to blow up.

    They know about the tech-bane, you realize. Darn, darn darn... Are they imposters, some kind of ploy from the spooky side of things or... you remember your dad saying that governments often know more than the White Council suspects. It's not like Harry had been quiet about being a wizard.

    "Molly Carpenter and I will be the judge of what I want agent Wright and I would like to see that badge if you please, properly," you asnwer calmly.

    He takes it out, his face as expressive as stone.

    "Information verified, preliminary assessment True." comes the response from your phone practically the same instant the badge is in the camera's sight. "Important anomalous element, not from the Chicago Field Office, not from any Field Office, central, from the FBI National Security Branch."

    As as the others follow through they all prove to be from the same branch. You are pretty damn sure Harry isn't a foreign agent so there's something really odd going on here.

    Don't cops tend to go in really hard on people who are known cop killers and if they knew or even suspected something about magic there would be battering rams and SWAT teams involved right?

    The thought cuts off abruptly as you notice Mouse come up from the basement, though you are pretty sure the agents hadn't, he can be surprisingly silent for his size it seems.

    Harry nods and motions to the bedroom with a twitch of his head. 'I've got this', he seems to say, but does he though.

    "And what's the FBI got to do with an investigation in Chicago?" He asks leaning back in the wall a little, showing he's unarmed sure, but also showing he is not the least intimidated.

    "Detective Greene's wife, is with the FBI here in Chicago, but you knew that didn't you Dresden?" Wright asks. "Come on now, get in the car and you will get your lawyer for all the good it'll..."

    "Do you have a copy of that warrant on you?" you cut him off.

    "Yes." For the first time since he had come in you can hear an emotion in his voice, even if it is just annoyance.

    "Then you won't mind showing it to us now will you?" you say letting the smallest hint of a smile show. Annoyed people make mistakes, say more than they mean to.

    "Miss, a word of advice, you are a little young to be getting in the middle of a criminal investigation," he says, leaning forward just a bit, you guess it's supposed to be intimidating.

    That's not what catches your attention. "How do you know how old I am Agent Wright?"

    "Your questioning by Detective Green is on record after the Splattercon attack Miss Carpenter," the guy with the handcuffs says.

    Wright throws him a dirty look as he produces a copy of the warrant. According to Clippy it is at least the proper form for a warrant and the name and signature of the judge matches. Not to say it can't be a forgery, but if it is it's a good one.

    What do you do ?

    [] Press them on the slip, see what you can find out

    [] Time for more demons, you are really curious what you'll find inside Agent Wright's phone

    [] Write in

    OOC: I did not even roll if they could intimidate you because it hit against Impervious Primacy Mantle's passive boon as you would be abandoning an intimacy,
     
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    • [X] Time for more demons, you are really curious what you'll find inside Agent Wright's phone
     
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    [X] Time for more demons, you aare really curious what you'll find inside Agent Wright's phone

    Then can have his phone demon silently send a copy of his phone to Clippy
     
    aren't these guys corrupted werewolves? Essence supremacy will come in handy. Alternatively, False Springs Beckon to handle addiction.

    [X] Time for more demons, you are really curious what you'll find inside Agent Wright's phone
     
    DragonParadox said:
    Don't cops tend to go in really hard on people who are known cop killers and if they knew or even suspected something about magic there would be battering rams and SWAT teams involved right?
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    We noticed that sending two guys after a cop-killer is weird IC. That means we can use it.

    You know, given how hinky this whole situation is, I wonder how these two would react if we threatened to bring this recording to, say, the local police station, which they should have no reason to object to, if they're on the up-and-up. Or we can threaten to give this recording to the news, and that will really alarm them. Just as some buttons we can potentially push to force them to react, one way or the other.
     
    I am tempted to throw "and what does national security office of the FBI has to do with murder investigation?" at them. They know of supernatural. We can subtly flex.
     
    DragonParadox said:
    "Detective Greene's wife, is with the FBI here in Chicago, but you knew that didn't you Dresden?" Wright asks. "Come on now, get in the car and you will get your lawyer for all the good it'll..."
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    I am almost certain this isn't enough to justify FBI involvement from a jurisdiction POV. The fact that these agents are from the national security branch just hammers that home.

    [X] Time for more demons, you are really curious what you'll find inside Agent Wright's phone

    More demons, then immediately if we find evidence of a set-up I'd be inclined to immediately start escalating. We could probably call the Deputy Director of the Chicago FBI branch on their personal phone if we wanted.
     
    Is this more WoD-crossed than we thought?

    There are various goverment programs to deal with the supernatural in the WoD.

    And only some belong to the Technocracy or Pentex.
     
    We already know that the Government or at least a few people in the Government know about the Supernatural. So this is nothing new.

    The Question is, what they want Harry For.
     
    So, I think we can pretty safely state that this is somehow connected to the nazi investigation:
    1) OOC we know that this didn't happen in canon
    2) These guys are aware of the supernatural
    3) These guys are from the national security branch of the FBI
    4) The warrants at least appear legit
    5) Despite seeing our phone working, they are not afraid / vary of us, and keep treating us as a mortal teenager. This tells us that they are not THAT knowledgeable about supernatural, because "working electronics in the presence of a wizard means fae / demon / other non-human strong enough to contest techbane" is not very deep lore.
    6) There is some inconsistency - they know our age, but didn't know our face. And Molly has a very distinct appearance. Unless I am mistaken (please correct me), her interrogation file should have a photo. So, either the first guy to ask our name was lying about not knowing us, or they are also being fed intel in real time.

    So, we can probably assume that this isn't an outright hit. We don't know if these guys were outright bought by the evil guys, or if they are dupes. This is likely a stalling attempt, meaning that there's something time sensitive / the conspiracy is trying to cover their tracks.
     
    [X] Time for more demons, you are really curious what you'll find inside Agent Wright's phone
    -[X] And while the demon is working its magic, comment, "It seems really unusual to me that three agents from the the FBI's National Security Branch would be serving a murder warrant. Doesn't that seem strange to you, Harry?"
    --[X] If asked how we know where they work, reply "Same way I am recording you"

    Because we need to keep them talking, and this seems like a good way to prompt one of them to make another slip up. Or to do something extreme enough to give us reason to sword them all. It also gives Harry some potentially helpful information.
     
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    [X] Time for more demons, you are really curious what you'll find inside Agent Wright's phone
    -[X] And while the demon is working its magic, comment, "It seems really unusual to me that three agents from the the FBI's National Security Branch would be serving a murder warrant. Doesn't that seem strange to you, Harry?"
    --[X] If asked how we know where they work, reply "Same way I am recording you"

    The last part is a fey truth.
     
    Yog said:
    [X] Time for more demons, you are really curious what you'll find inside Agent Wright's phone
    -[X] And while the demon is working its magic, comment, "It seems really unusual to me that three agents from the the FBI's National Security Branch would be serving a murder warrant. Doesn't that seem strange to you, Harry?"
    --[X] If asked how we know where they work, reply "Same way I am recording you"

    The last part is a fey truth.
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    Ah, yeah, that sounds good. Added it to my vote as well.
     
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    Get the feeling should have used the Crown.
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    Yeah, that was my bad. I thought I copied the question version when I made the new plan.
    Yog said:
    [X] Time for more demons, you are really curious what you'll find inside Agent Wright's phone
    -[X] And while the demon is working its magic, comment, "It seems really unusual to me that three agents from the the FBI's National Security Branch would be serving a murder warrant. Doesn't that seem strange to you, Harry?"
    --[X] If asked how we know where they work, reply "Same way I am recording you"

    The last part is a fey truth.
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    Missing a prime opportunity to go with the classic "internet" excuse. :V
     
    BronzeTongue said:
    Missing a prime opportunity to go with the classic "internet" excuse. :V
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    This excuse isn't a classic here because 2006.

    [X] Time for more demons, you are really curious what you'll find inside Agent Wright's phone
    -[X] And while the demon is working its magic, comment, "It seems really unusual to me that three agents from the the FBI's National Security Branch would be serving a murder warrant. Doesn't that seem strange to you, Harry?"
    --[X] If asked how we know where they work, reply "Same way I am recording you"
     
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