Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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Only tangentially relevant, but I wanted to ask something. Did anyone else feel like the last book or so of the Dresden files read like bad fan fiction instead of Butcher's normal writing?
Are any of the weird additions from that going show up here?
Not so much the plot dependent things, but stuff like the incredibly stupid stompy monster that managed to outplay Mab.
Are any of the weird additions from that going show up here?
Not so much the plot dependent things, but stuff like the incredibly stupid stompy monster that managed to outplay Mab.
I definitely got video games power creep vibes out of it, an author spinning his wheels. It felt a bit like the latter chapters of Worm and that is not a compliment.
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[X] Emerald Flame World-Smith
Jack vile Ripper
The swellest guy in Creation.
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Uhm, is it just me, or does Emerald Flame World Smith have no personal combat Ability besides Occult, one dot in Firearms and Technology? Not even Athletics to roll against Clinch even.
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That was supposed to be v2 sorry I'll correct it.
No problem, just wanted to be sure.
Personally not much interested in being a craftier. We can have summons handle crafting work.
Jack vile Ripper
The swellest guy in Creation.
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- Indonesia
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Hmm, let's make an experiment.
Let's take a Melee Build Molly. Dexterity 4, Strength 4, Stamina 3 with Melee 5. Since the Ability and the Attributes in question have more than 3 for hitting and damage purposes, that means that they have Specialties. This means that 10s count as two successes.
Let's take your basic ol' Fae Monster. Say that he has Dexterity 3, Stamina 5, Brawling 4 and a magical protection that grants him an additional +5 Soak against all forms of attacks (Bashing, Lethal and Aggravated). An utter slaughter house of an enemy.
Each character has 7 Health Levels.
Now, Combat Turn!
Molly starts first after rolling well on her initiative, she then rolls attack with her full Dice Pool of 9 (Dexterity 4 + Melee 5). But wait, she also has the Charm "Key to the Kingdom: Melee". This Charm allows Molly to add her (Dexterity + Melee) Dice into her already existing attack for (Essence + 1) turn—of which she is only Essence 1, so that's two turns—thus granting her 18 Dice.
She rolls and gets the following: 10, 10, 4, 6, 9, 8, 2, 9, 1, 9, 5, 6, 2, 5, 5, 7, 2, 3. The target number for a normal Melee attack is 6, and since she has Melee as a Key Ability and Specialty, that means that 1s do not subtract success and 10s count as two successes. Thus, she attains 11 successes. Not bad.
Now, here comes the Fae baddy. Before Molly started to roll, he has taken a Defensive action to block the attack, trusting in the arcane wisp that is his tattoo. Blocking is a Dexterity + Brawl maneuver, thus he has a dice pool of 7. He rolls and gets the following: 8, 4, 6, 3, 8, 2, 8. The target number is normal—which is 6—so Fae Monster accrue 4 successes. Reducing Molly's attack into 7 Successes.
Still, the attack hits. And now comes Damage. Molly uses a normal Sword for an attack, which has a Damage rating of (Str + 2). Thus 7 + (4+2) = 16. Molly rolls and gets the following: 3, 7, 5, 7, 7, 8, 10, 10, 8, 10, 3, 10, 5, 3, 1, 3. Target number is still 6. That's 13 Health Level Damage. Nice, the number of Judas the Betrayer.
Now comes the Fae Monster. He has to soak 13 Health Levels worth of damage. He rolls soak, which is a dice pool of (Stamina + Magical Enchantment/Protection (Vampires have Fortitude in this case) + Armor). Since Fae Monster doesn't wear any Armor, he only uses his (Stamina + Magical Protection), thus conferring to a (5 + 5) into 10 total dice pool. He rolls and gets the following: 10, 9, 5, 5, 5, 1, 10, 9, 7, 10. Totalling in 9 successes, but since 1s subtract success he only has 8 successes.
Thus, in total: 13 - 8 = 5. That's 5 Health Levels sheared off of Fae Monster's 7 Health Level. Resulting in him being absolutely mauled with a -2 Penalty to his every roll. Should Fae Monster still proceed in finishing off Molly, he's going to have a bad time.
RESULT: MOLLY CARPENTER WINS.
Let's take a Melee Build Molly. Dexterity 4, Strength 4, Stamina 3 with Melee 5. Since the Ability and the Attributes in question have more than 3 for hitting and damage purposes, that means that they have Specialties. This means that 10s count as two successes.
Let's take your basic ol' Fae Monster. Say that he has Dexterity 3, Stamina 5, Brawling 4 and a magical protection that grants him an additional +5 Soak against all forms of attacks (Bashing, Lethal and Aggravated). An utter slaughter house of an enemy.
Each character has 7 Health Levels.
Now, Combat Turn!
Molly starts first after rolling well on her initiative, she then rolls attack with her full Dice Pool of 9 (Dexterity 4 + Melee 5). But wait, she also has the Charm "Key to the Kingdom: Melee". This Charm allows Molly to add her (Dexterity + Melee) Dice into her already existing attack for (Essence + 1) turn—of which she is only Essence 1, so that's two turns—thus granting her 18 Dice.
She rolls and gets the following: 10, 10, 4, 6, 9, 8, 2, 9, 1, 9, 5, 6, 2, 5, 5, 7, 2, 3. The target number for a normal Melee attack is 6, and since she has Melee as a Key Ability and Specialty, that means that 1s do not subtract success and 10s count as two successes. Thus, she attains 11 successes. Not bad.
Now, here comes the Fae baddy. Before Molly started to roll, he has taken a Defensive action to block the attack, trusting in the arcane wisp that is his tattoo. Blocking is a Dexterity + Brawl maneuver, thus he has a dice pool of 7. He rolls and gets the following: 8, 4, 6, 3, 8, 2, 8. The target number is normal—which is 6—so Fae Monster accrue 4 successes. Reducing Molly's attack into 7 Successes.
Still, the attack hits. And now comes Damage. Molly uses a normal Sword for an attack, which has a Damage rating of (Str + 2). Thus 7 + (4+2) = 16. Molly rolls and gets the following: 3, 7, 5, 7, 7, 8, 10, 10, 8, 10, 3, 10, 5, 3, 1, 3. Target number is still 6. That's 13 Health Level Damage. Nice, the number of Judas the Betrayer.
Now comes the Fae Monster. He has to soak 13 Health Levels worth of damage. He rolls soak, which is a dice pool of (Stamina + Magical Enchantment/Protection (Vampires have Fortitude in this case) + Armor). Since Fae Monster doesn't wear any Armor, he only uses his (Stamina + Magical Protection), thus conferring to a (5 + 5) into 10 total dice pool. He rolls and gets the following: 10, 9, 5, 5, 5, 1, 10, 9, 7, 10. Totalling in 9 successes, but since 1s subtract success he only has 8 successes.
Thus, in total: 13 - 8 = 5. That's 5 Health Levels sheared off of Fae Monster's 7 Health Level. Resulting in him being absolutely mauled with a -2 Penalty to his every roll. Should Fae Monster still proceed in finishing off Molly, he's going to have a bad time.
RESULT: MOLLY CARPENTER WINS.
Wait what? As I recall Infernal Excellencies don't act like that, are you homebrewing this DP? Infernal Excellencies act as enhancers when an Infernal is acting in a way that resonates with the Yozi they have the Excellency for, not just straight up skill boosters: that's Solars.One other thing about favored abilities, they are the ones you can throw excellencies at from the start with a single charm. What are excellencies? They are the abilities to laugh at mortal limitations, the easiest way to do what Exaltation were meant to do from the start, take a human at the peak of their abilities and make them as gods. Now the effects are not magical, so no cooking up health potions from chicken soup, that is for other powers, but they are superlative with the potential to be impossibility good.
How is this mac and cheese made from leftovers better than a five course luxury meal? That's not how anything, taste bubs can't...
Excellency: I don't have to explain shit, shut up and eat it.
Jack vile Ripper
The swellest guy in Creation.
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Well, 2e/2.5 Infernals did so. But we're using ExWoD Infernals, whose Excellencies did this:
This isn't me, this is Exalted vs WoD, as can be seen by the Build-Your-Own Caste character creation, it has been a long time since the primordial war and the exaltation is more about raising up its bearer to her 'rightful' throne. As for where it came from and who made it, well you are going to have to dig to get to the bottom of that.
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[X] Emerald Flame World-Smith
Jack vile Ripper
The swellest guy in Creation.
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- Indonesia
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- He/Him
Okay, I think I found two Charms that would better suit us in the future.
The first being False Springs Beckckon,
The second one from Kakuri is this, Incarnate Shadow Insinuation:
Kakuri is good. Second only to Lanka and his many good charms. Like the titular Green Sun Nimbus Flare:
Yeah, Kakuri and Lankha duo seems like the next Charm Category that we might need to have next. That or Lankha and The Hell of Burrowing Maggot. Or Lankha and The Hell of Boiling Oil (this one is also really good).
The first being False Springs Beckckon,
Now, most of us agree that Wound Penalties sucks. It reduces the amount of dice you could use within a scene or story, and you have to deal with reduced movement rate, healing convalescence waiting time and the likes. This Charm makes it so that you could use a sort of field treatment so that your minions and loved ones don't get crippled just because they have their guts trailing behind them. Sure, they won't heal. But it would halt any form of infection, malaise, blood loss and maiming they have suffered. Harry would love this Charm, seeing as that guy tends to always be in a state of almost keeling over even before meeting the big bads of the story.
The second one from Kakuri is this, Incarnate Shadow Insinuation:
This is very powerful. So powerful in fact that its base effect alone is enough to turn the tide. Multiple Action penalty sucks ass. A consecutive +1 Difficulty and -1 Dice for your actions make it so that rarely did you ever use it in base WoD besides Parrying and Attacking (Riposte). To be able to make one other attack after you have done your attack is really useful in that it clears out potential beings that might not keel over the first time we sink our swords into them. It uses our base stats (of which we have reasonably high Dots) and get this, it lasts for a Scene. Not a turn. Not (Essence + 1) turn. It lasts until whenever we don't need it anymore.
Kakuri is good. Second only to Lanka and his many good charms. Like the titular Green Sun Nimbus Flare:
This Charm is a must by the way. This is our version of Hungry Tiger and it already deals Aggravated damage. Meaning those we struck with this Charm are unable to heal from it normally. They needed extensive time, expensive reagents, and magical healing before being able to heal from our wounds. That is if we even let them. Kakuri (sweet, great Kakuri) have another Charm that would hinder any form of healing attempt on those we've maimed:
The only weakness to this Charm is that it only affects the target itself, not those around the target. So the target's buddies can save her and transport her away from us in order to heal her.
Yeah, Kakuri and Lankha duo seems like the next Charm Category that we might need to have next. That or Lankha and The Hell of Burrowing Maggot. Or Lankha and The Hell of Boiling Oil (this one is also really good).
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is there a reason that the setting document that DP linked only goes to page 171 for me? when infernals are apparently on 193?
Jack vile Ripper
The swellest guy in Creation.
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- Indonesia
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- He/Him
What? Hold on.
Oh, I see the problem. It's the old Document. You should be using the Revised version. Here:
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[X] August Witchblade Princess V2.0
To mend what was once broken, to subjugate those who forced you to bow, and to have the strength to protect those you loved. With might, you shall make all things right.
To mend what was once broken, to subjugate those who forced you to bow, and to have the strength to protect those you loved. With might, you shall make all things right.