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becoming the demon empress basically requires to end the world as it is. Killing yama kings does not. Though if we want to kill yama kings much planning and ambushing should be done. Speed blitz yama kings.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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Honestly, I thought of a question to ask about the bullet when we first got it.
Okay, to start with, there's a lot of stuff about that situation that doesn't make sense. Was the sniper shooting at our prisoner? How did they know where we'd be? How did they get there before us? Who are they? Who are they working for?
All of these questions (except the first one, unless the answer to that isn't the obvious one) are important, but we can only ask one. So, let's get cheatsy and pick a question that would answer several of them with little deduction work.
The most obvious question would be targeted to use the bullet as a scrying focus to look at what happened around that specific bullet before it was shot at us. Retroactive eavesdropping could get us a lot of information quickly, and is obviously only targeted at the bullet. However, that doesn't necessarily answer how they knew where we were going or anything if the guy was only told the location and target without any context or exposition that would help us, and Nazis are the exact type to do something like that.
So, my proposed alternate solution: "What is the full sequence of events that led to this bullet being shot at my group?" Should touch a little on every part of the chain of command leading up to the shooting, and is still focused on the bullet/shooting, so it shouldn't burn a question on any topic too broad that we'll want that question later.
As for how to convince Harry we're already involved: the mook we questioned was specifically ordered to shoot a Knight of the Cross, who his superiors knew would be there ahead of time, and a Denarian showed up in the list of people involved in the conspiracy. Since the Denarians have already shown that they are perfectly ready and willing to bring the families of the Knights into their schemes, that means we're already involved by default. So he should bring us along to find answers while we're prepared for trouble before any Nazi hitmen start targeting us or our family.
Okay, to start with, there's a lot of stuff about that situation that doesn't make sense. Was the sniper shooting at our prisoner? How did they know where we'd be? How did they get there before us? Who are they? Who are they working for?
All of these questions (except the first one, unless the answer to that isn't the obvious one) are important, but we can only ask one. So, let's get cheatsy and pick a question that would answer several of them with little deduction work.
The most obvious question would be targeted to use the bullet as a scrying focus to look at what happened around that specific bullet before it was shot at us. Retroactive eavesdropping could get us a lot of information quickly, and is obviously only targeted at the bullet. However, that doesn't necessarily answer how they knew where we were going or anything if the guy was only told the location and target without any context or exposition that would help us, and Nazis are the exact type to do something like that.
So, my proposed alternate solution: "What is the full sequence of events that led to this bullet being shot at my group?" Should touch a little on every part of the chain of command leading up to the shooting, and is still focused on the bullet/shooting, so it shouldn't burn a question on any topic too broad that we'll want that question later.
As for how to convince Harry we're already involved: the mook we questioned was specifically ordered to shoot a Knight of the Cross, who his superiors knew would be there ahead of time, and a Denarian showed up in the list of people involved in the conspiracy. Since the Denarians have already shown that they are perfectly ready and willing to bring the families of the Knights into their schemes, that means we're already involved by default. So he should bring us along to find answers while we're prepared for trouble before any Nazi hitmen start targeting us or our family.
Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
Becoming the demon empress is simply being the top dog once the world ends and a new age begins. The World Ending part is also optional.
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fairly sure dragonparadox says we explicitly have to basically end the world.
Edit: Also not that he said this maybe have to kill God though given the flavor text of taking the throne of God.
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I think the flavor text is explicitly taking God's empty throne.
Only it's not empty in DF, unlike WoD.
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theoretically could get the theoretical throne of the thousand hells. Good luck with that for us I could see us killing maybe 1 or 2 named yama kings and that'd be once essence 5 have good allies, great gear, good charms, and good plans. We have any idea how many yama kings there are? I get there are like 10 or so important named ones. But, how many of thousand hells have been eaten up, how many are unclaimed, and how many are ruled?
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[X] Point out that you are going to be involved in this anyway, he just gets to decide if it's where he can see you or not
-[X]Stunt: Slurping at the straw of your large Coke, you roll your eyes at Harry. "Dude, like it or not I'm already involved. Im sure the gentleperson with the rifle remembers my face as well as the Winter half of Faerie. Id prefer to cooperate so we dont waste effort, but," one finger taps your temple suggestively "I am going to be looking anyway. With or without you. Wouldnt you be happier knowing where I am?" Smiling winningly at him, you steal one of his fries and pop it into your mouth, then make a face. "Y'know Wendy's has better fries than BK right?"
Guilt trip activate.
Targeting Harry's white knight complex and (OOC) his history with both Susan Rodriguez and Kim Delaney, both women who came to harm because he didnt give them sufficient information to make informed choices,
[X] Point out that you are going to be involved in this anyway, he just gets to decide if it's where he can see you or not
-[X]Stunt: Slurping at the straw of your large Coke, you roll your eyes at Harry. "Dude, like it or not I'm already involved. Im sure the gentleperson with the rifle remembers my face as well as the Winter half of Faerie. Id prefer to cooperate so we dont waste effort, but," one finger taps your temple suggestively "I am going to be looking anyway. With or without you. Wouldnt you be happier knowing where I am?" Smiling winningly at him, you steal one of his fries and pop it into your mouth, then make a face. "Y'know Wendy's has better fries than BK right?"
Guilt trip activate.
Targeting Harry's white knight complex and (OOC) his history with both Susan Rodriguez and Kim Delaney, both women who came to harm because he didnt give them sufficient information to make informed choices,
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this is also pretty funny for me since its slightly flirty and dresden keeps reminding them and himself about knowing molly since she used a push up bra. Like long term their age difference is nothing for wizards right now its real awkward.
Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
[X] Point out that you are going to be involved in this anyway, he just gets to decide if it's where he can see you or not
-[X]Stunt: Slurping at the straw of your large Coke, you roll your eyes at Harry. "Dude, like it or not I'm already involved. Im sure the gentleperson with the rifle remembers my face as well as the Winter half of Faerie. Id prefer to cooperate so we dont waste effort, but," one finger taps your temple suggestively "I am going to be looking anyway. With or without you. Wouldnt you be happier knowing where I am?" Smiling winningly at him, you steal one of his fries and pop it into your mouth, then make a face. "Y'know Wendy's has better fries than BK right?"
-[X]Stunt: Slurping at the straw of your large Coke, you roll your eyes at Harry. "Dude, like it or not I'm already involved. Im sure the gentleperson with the rifle remembers my face as well as the Winter half of Faerie. Id prefer to cooperate so we dont waste effort, but," one finger taps your temple suggestively "I am going to be looking anyway. With or without you. Wouldnt you be happier knowing where I am?" Smiling winningly at him, you steal one of his fries and pop it into your mouth, then make a face. "Y'know Wendy's has better fries than BK right?"
Despite his legitimate mental chops Harry is very much a creature of emotion, you will almost never be able to convince him with logic if he gets it into his head that keeping Molly away from him will protect her.
Regarding the Hells I am very in favour of conquering them, if only to make them only as terrible as they need to be, do we know what function the Hells perform here?
Regarding the Hells I am very in favour of conquering them, if only to make them only as terrible as they need to be, do we know what function the Hells perform here?
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no though the assumption similarly to world of darkness makes a certain amount of sense though its reiterated in canon no one or no one telling knows where souls really go when they die in dresden files so who knows. Well at least normally soul trapping and stuff presumably exists since mab could grab dresdens soul and hades mentions he hasn't had those go to his underworld except those who basically brave the gauntlet to rob his vault and die since gods were told to stop actively acting in the world.
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[X] Point out that you are going to be involved in this anyway, he just gets to decide if it's where he can see you or not
-[X]Stunt: Slurping at the straw of your large Coke, you roll your eyes at Harry. "Dude, like it or not I'm already involved. Im sure the gentleperson with the rifle remembers my face as well as the Winter half of Faerie. Id prefer to cooperate so we dont waste effort, but," one finger taps your temple suggestively "I am going to be looking anyway. With or without you. Wouldnt you be happier knowing where I am?" Smiling winningly at him, you steal one of his fries and pop it into your mouth, then make a face. "Y'know Wendy's has better fries than BK right?"
I love both the mental image here and how IC it is.
-[X]Stunt: Slurping at the straw of your large Coke, you roll your eyes at Harry. "Dude, like it or not I'm already involved. Im sure the gentleperson with the rifle remembers my face as well as the Winter half of Faerie. Id prefer to cooperate so we dont waste effort, but," one finger taps your temple suggestively "I am going to be looking anyway. With or without you. Wouldnt you be happier knowing where I am?" Smiling winningly at him, you steal one of his fries and pop it into your mouth, then make a face. "Y'know Wendy's has better fries than BK right?"
I love both the mental image here and how IC it is.
Depends.
Do we have any Terrestrial MA that do the same thing?
If not, we probably want to keep them so we can teach them to allies.
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terrestial will technically still be above you know anything we're getting here and made by an exalted with essence in mind.
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[X] Point out that you are going to be involved in this anyway, he just gets to decide if it's where he can see you or not
-[X]Stunt: Slurping at the straw of your large Coke, you roll your eyes at Harry. "Dude, like it or not I'm already involved. Im sure the gentleperson with the rifle remembers my face as well as the Winter half of Faerie. Id prefer to cooperate so we dont waste effort, but," one finger taps your temple suggestively "I am going to be looking anyway. With or without you. Wouldnt you be happier knowing where I am?" Smiling winningly at him, you steal one of his fries and pop it into your mouth, then make a face. "Y'know Wendy's has better fries than BK right?"
-[X]Stunt: Slurping at the straw of your large Coke, you roll your eyes at Harry. "Dude, like it or not I'm already involved. Im sure the gentleperson with the rifle remembers my face as well as the Winter half of Faerie. Id prefer to cooperate so we dont waste effort, but," one finger taps your temple suggestively "I am going to be looking anyway. With or without you. Wouldnt you be happier knowing where I am?" Smiling winningly at him, you steal one of his fries and pop it into your mouth, then make a face. "Y'know Wendy's has better fries than BK right?"
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[X] Point out that you are going to be involved in this anyway, he just gets to decide if it's where he can see you or not
-[X]Stunt: Slurping at the straw of your large Coke, you roll your eyes at Harry. "Dude, like it or not I'm already involved. Im sure the gentleperson with the rifle remembers my face as well as the Winter half of Faerie. Id prefer to cooperate so we dont waste effort, but," one finger taps your temple suggestively "I am going to be looking anyway. With or without you. Wouldnt you be happier knowing where I am?" Smiling winningly at him, you steal one of his fries and pop it into your mouth, then make a face. "Y'know Wendy's has better fries than BK right?"
-[X]Stunt: Slurping at the straw of your large Coke, you roll your eyes at Harry. "Dude, like it or not I'm already involved. Im sure the gentleperson with the rifle remembers my face as well as the Winter half of Faerie. Id prefer to cooperate so we dont waste effort, but," one finger taps your temple suggestively "I am going to be looking anyway. With or without you. Wouldnt you be happier knowing where I am?" Smiling winningly at him, you steal one of his fries and pop it into your mouth, then make a face. "Y'know Wendy's has better fries than BK right?"
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I know convincing Harry to carry a DemonOS cell phone would be damn near futile, but we should still tell him about our new ability and demonstrate its usefulness.
Even if he doesn't want to carry one around with him full-time, he might be willing to keep one on hand for emergencies or when he's going to be out of easy communication range for some reason. When it's not being used, he could keep it powered down in a little containment circle on a shelf in his basement or something similar. Despite his hangups, justified as they may be, Harry would recognize the advantages to being able to call someone at a moment's notice when he's out working a case, either to request aid or give a warning of danger to a friend or ally.
Even if he doesn't want to carry one around with him full-time, he might be willing to keep one on hand for emergencies or when he's going to be out of easy communication range for some reason. When it's not being used, he could keep it powered down in a little containment circle on a shelf in his basement or something similar. Despite his hangups, justified as they may be, Harry would recognize the advantages to being able to call someone at a moment's notice when he's out working a case, either to request aid or give a warning of danger to a friend or ally.
It's not entirely OOC. When you were asking about vampires and he was really worried Molly guessed that he had someone poke at the wrong vampire and get hurt.
[X] Point out that you are going to be involved in this anyway, he just gets to decide if it's where he can see you or not
-[X]Stunt: Slurping at the straw of your large Coke, you roll your eyes at Harry. "Dude, like it or not I'm already involved. Im sure the gentleperson with the rifle remembers my face as well as the Winter half of Faerie. Id prefer to cooperate so we dont waste effort, but," one finger taps your temple suggestively "I am going to be looking anyway. With or without you. Wouldnt you be happier knowing where I am?" Smiling winningly at him, you steal one of his fries and pop it into your mouth, then make a face. "Y'know Wendy's has better fries than BK right?"
-[X]Stunt: Slurping at the straw of your large Coke, you roll your eyes at Harry. "Dude, like it or not I'm already involved. Im sure the gentleperson with the rifle remembers my face as well as the Winter half of Faerie. Id prefer to cooperate so we dont waste effort, but," one finger taps your temple suggestively "I am going to be looking anyway. With or without you. Wouldnt you be happier knowing where I am?" Smiling winningly at him, you steal one of his fries and pop it into your mouth, then make a face. "Y'know Wendy's has better fries than BK right?"
They were originally supposed to be places of purification. You'd get the sin burned off with a thematic punishment and then get sent back to the world to try again in your next life.
Except the rulers of hell are empowered by what they take, so they preferred to just keep the souls and torture them forever.
So they could be a lot less unpleasant and a lot more temporary.
Getting thanked by a devil for binding it really says a lot about how good they are as rulers.
Though the huge metaphysical step up probably helped incline Clippy to us.
It sounds like she basically swapped 1 level in adept for 10 levels in arcanist and a lease on a palace the size of her old apartment building.
Her perspective would be neat to see at some point, possibly when we have more cyber devils for her to
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mikaboshi is their yama king right? I hope to murder them eventually emma-o though there is merely pity and shooting a rabid dog really. It'd be nice if we could conquer multiple hells and well actually burn the sin out of things and hand them off to either be reincarnated or who knows maybe heaven or gainful employment.
I think the heavens the Yama Kings were supposed to answer to got screwed up somehow, so that one might be off the table depending on the rules here.
It would be neat to make the world's first optional hell though. You show up and choose to run the gauntlet to be purified, or move in and make a life for yourself as a permanent resident/employee.
It really takes the edge off the moral dilemma of running the place if people consent to the torment as a medical procedure for the soul instead of it being inflicted on them against their will.
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could always ask an angel if we can send purified souls to them. Like they may not be able to respond it doesn't hurt to ask though. Also you know the many already tortured souls of the hells we could conquer. We also probably want a rehabilitation process for souls we get since many can't just be integrated into our kingdom(s).
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of course though I will note there are demons who have even benevolent thoughts just their few and they are very alien in their usual thought process. Also no need to treat them badly and some demons do possess things like loyalty and other positive things.
Edit: Also I still want to befriend some even when we know they'll never have a human thought process.
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