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Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

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yeah sorry just didn't care much about this particular vote found the clippy thing funny. We're gonna also be getting a loooot of these demons eventually though.
 
what month was the super lotto we can do? Also what state takes things anonymously at this time? I'd like to note we can just say we took a vacation or something when we payed for the lotto numbers right? Like supernatural people might notice depends on who though and its not like most can cause us much trouble especially once we're 18 and not like normal mages have anyway to win lottos intellectus bullshit is not common and those who have anything approaching this level of it already have resources or don't care.
 
uju32 said:
Not really feeling it.
In the Matrix movie, Link was on the other side of the phone while the characters were inside the network.
The thematics dont work IMO.

And the demons here are not meant to have the sort of agency that a Link or a Tank would anyway.
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Eh, those were just the inspirations. Link, in my opinion, is just a better name in general, regardless of origin. After all, this is the demon that links you to the internet. Clippy I just find a bit cringy, if anything. PLus, I mean, we have a computer. If we should call any demon clippy, it's the one that will inhabit an office computer used for paperwork and maybe stuff like market analysis.
 
Votes as they stand. Not a lot of votes this time.
Adhoc vote count started by Yzarc on Aug 17, 2022 at 4:00 AM, finished with 46 posts and 19 votes.
  • [X] [Name] Clippy
    [X] [Stunt] You brace yourself, focusing on the beyond. You remember the first time you touched the legions of lesser cyber spirits and beckoned them forth. You hear a chorus of litanies, each a supplication from a desperate spirit. Yet there can only be one in the end and thus you pull and then bind. You force permanence or an attempt of it, for you had your supplicant, and you would have permanence.
    [x] [Name] Glitch
    [X] [Stunt]: Looking down at the phone in your hand, you frown a little, fingering the buttons a littlr as you attempt to put yourself in the right frame of mind to invest a sentience into the phone. Almost absently, you begin to hum one of your mother's favorite songs under your breath "Every breath you take..."
    [x] [Stunt] You gaze at the phone in your hands, a tiny piece of plastic, sand and tethered lightning. Closing your eyes, you can almost feel the wisps of mortal intent within it. Somewhere nearby, a teenager boots up her phone for the first time. She is excited to text friends late into the night. Elsewhere, a man curses his phone as it again attempts to sell him some useless fad pill. Even further away, a small child is delighted by talking with the virtual assistant, while downstairs his parents argue quietly. And yet... all these disparate events; moments where a human mind forgets that what they speak to is no more alive then a toaster, they are all connected. Joined in a vast web of mortal artifice that spans the world linking tiny phones and enormous mainframes. Who can say if this edifice dreams, and if it dreams, perhaps it dreams of the wicked city? As above, so it is below. And in a moment of synchronicity, a devil finds itself somewhere on the vast web of the internet. It races to what it senses is it's new home. Where it's mistress dwells. and soon through the tinny speaker emerges a new voice: "Hello mistress. How might this one serve?"
    [X] You put your phone to your ear, and whisper, softly, letting your breath carry the sound beyond the boundaries of mundanity. Your word, a name you chose to conjure by, the idea of what your seek to call, tries to find the power it is addressed to. It sifts through the infinite myriad possibilities inhabiting the grinding gears of the Demon City. And when it can't find the right demon, for no one with such a name exists? The infinite and absolute power, the eternal and unbreakable will and the Mandate of Creation placed upon your brow join together to reject such an outcome. Fate bends and twists and was always such that a loyal demon is summoned to do your bidding, ready and eager to bend the knee.
    [X] Link
    [X] [Name] Locutus (he who speaks)
    [X] Jeeves
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CorruptedKing said:
I wasn't really focused on who he was just the name because it sounds cool and works because you speak into a phone, if we're arguing semantics like this clippy doesn't work because clippy was a shitty computer program.
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See what veekie said.
Jokes and exaggeration aside, Clippy is characterized as a friendly, well-meaning but overeager software function. Where you have problems its because it's trying to be helpful.

Locutus,otoh, was a malevolent Borg drone that was formed from an enslaved Picard in Star Trek, is employed as a weapon against his friends and then eventually turns around to kill the Borg Queen who enslaved him.
See what I say about thematics?

And in Dresdenverse cosmology, Names are important.
Our charms will not hurt us, because thats how Exalted works, but there's no guarantee about how they come off to other people.
It would be like naming your computer demon, say, GlaDOS or Skynet or Samaritan and expect everything to be just fine.

But thats just my opinion.
BronzeTongue said:
It's worth keeping in mind that we can have a lot of these things, and will probably end up using what could be seen as a highly unreasonable number of devils.
If you really like a particular name, consider another place where it might be appropriate.

We could put Locutos in a server to be our stock market manager ("Your shares will be assimilated, your financial and institutional distinctiveness will be added to our own. Resistance is futile") Or Link in to run part of our virtualized software company if we choose to launch one.

Q would be a good name for the aimbot demon in our smart gun(s), and Molly's car should clearly be driven by Optimus Prime.
No need to try forcing a name to fit this vote because it'd be fun to give to a cyber devil; if it doesn't work here we can just reserve it for use somewhere that it does slot in naturally.
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Its worth noting that for Doylist reasons, I dont expect any of these to be fully realized people.
QM is not going to be able to track an ever-expanding cast of spiritual entities, especially when thats just minor demons and we havent even opened our inner Hell yet.

That just introduces character bloat for no real net gain in narrative or characterization.
We're probably going to end up with, at best, one face cyberdemon representing a whole group of them at a time.
Especially if we spawn an unreasonable number of them.
 
Although, when we eventually summon one into our PC, we should totally name it "Teletron." Just as a thought I had that wouldn't leave me alone until I shared it.
 
Yog said:
But not in the sense of "namesakes share properties / fate".
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Potentially very much in that sense when magic is in play.

Note how Lasciel's Shadow became an independent soul with its own fate when it stopped being Lasciel's namesake and accepted a different name? Or Uriel's strong negative reaction to when Dresden called him Uri instead of Uriel; Uriel means "Light of God" or "God is my light" depending on the translator, and dropping the -el meant dropping the -of God.

Note that I can not speak for the GM; this is just me eyeballing the setting and sidling away from what I see as potential landmines.
 
uju32 said:
Potentially very much in that sense when magic is in play.

Note how Lasciel's Shadow became an independent soul with its own fate when it stopped being Lasciel's namesake and accepted a different name? Or Uriel's strong negative reaction to when Dresden called him Uri instead of Uriel; Uriel means "Light of God" or "God is my light" depending on the translator, and dropping the -el meant dropping the -of God.

Note that I can not speak for the GM; this is just me eyeballing the setting and sidling away from what I see as potential landmines.
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we're probably gonna get some more info on said things in the god book or apocalypse trio. Doubt we'll learn much about said stuff in the dragon book who knows though. Meanwhile this is a heavy au where dp can pretty much do whatever they want.
 
the DragonBard said:
You know, I was looking through the Exalted vs WoD, and wondered if we would want to take the Hedge Magic merit.
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The character has a route to get exalted sorcery if the xp is spent (the exaltation is the same as the exalted discover of sorcery, which was chosen at chargen for this exact effect).
Which probably means 'once or twice much later'.

Hedge magic is kind of ok, in certain applications (teleportation! voodoo! diabolism! accessing spirit realms!) but the most potent ones are all behind dots 4-5 and need teachers and mostly nothing that charms and exalted sorcery can't do better, not to mention the crown of plot device (summoning demons of knowledge pffft. How about making them).

I wonder if other elements of WoD have made the jump. Are the alphas going to be glasswalkers? Are the black court going to have a diabolist faction and the white court a 'artistic' faction and the red court essentially the sabbath? Are we going to find a quietly screaming earthbound 'demon' (fallen angel) that isn't a denarian somewhere in the hells?

Probably changes too much.
 
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I'd like to suggest upping Academics to 2 by the time Molly get back to school.

Higher her Academics is, faster she does school work, better her grades are, and the less Charity will harp on them.
 
SCO said:
The character has a route to get exalted sorcery if the xp is spent (the exaltation is the same as the exalted discover of sorcery, which was chosen at chargen for this exact effect).
Which probably means 'once or twice much later'.

Hedge magic is kind of ok, in certain applications (teleportation! voodoo! diabolism! accessing spirit realms!) but the most potent ones are all behind dots 4-5 and need teachers and mostly nothing that charms and exalted sorcery can't do better, not to mention the crown of plot device (summoning demons of knowledge pffft. How about making them).

I wonder if other elements of WoD have made the jump. Are the alphas going to be glasswalkers? Are the black court going to have a diabolist faction and the white court a 'artistic' faction and the red court essentially the sabbath? Are we going to find a quietly screaming earthbound 'demon' (fallen angel) that isn't a denarian somewhere in the hells?

Probably changes too much.
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1)Maybe not much later. There are Exalted Sorcery spells that it would be incredibly useful to have
Something like Infallible Messenger, or Dragon of Smoke and Flame essentially translates to a tracking spell.
And ExWoD Infernals have no tracking spells, so thats very useful.

2) Narratively, as a wizard of the White Council, Dresden qualifies as teacher for essentially every one of the Sorcery Paths in the Sorcery Revised book besides maybe Divination. Maybe.
Not the Psychic Paths in the same book, but all the rest? Yes.

Canonically, his first sorta-apprentice Kim Delaney, the one who got killed by the loup garou, he is recorded to have taught her Warding, among other things.
The QM might choose to segregate things for game purposes, and Dresden does have a life and limited time.

Still. Keep it in mind.

3)I would not be surprised to see other WoD elements in play.
Outsiders and Outsider affiliates are essentially a Nephandi faction, after all.
 
uju32 said:
1)Maybe not much later. There are Exalted Sorcery spells that it would be incredibly useful to have
Something like Infallible Messenger, or Dragon of Smoke and Flame essentially translates to a tracking spell.
And ExWoD Infernals have no tracking spells, so thats very useful.

2) Narratively, as a wizard of the White Council, Dresden qualifies as teacher for essentially every one of the Sorcery Paths in the Sorcery Revised book besides maybe Divination. Maybe.
Not the Psychic Paths in the same book, but all the rest? Yes.

Canonically, his first sorta-apprentice Kim Delaney, the one who got killed by the loup garou, he is recorded to have taught her Warding, among other things.
The QM might choose to segregate things for game purposes, and Dresden does have a life and limited time.

Still. Keep it in mind.

3)I would not be surprised to see other WoD elements in play.
Outsiders and Outsider affiliates are essentially a Nephandi faction, after all.
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I'd rather wait a long while and develop what we have at least until essence 3 before branching out even then I'd prefer even essence 4 before branching to normal wizard stuff.
 
 
Exmorri said:
I don't think so. Crown of Eyes will almost certainly treat all schoolwork as a situation that you only get one question about, total.

'So what about things that are related, what about classes of people? How many questions do you get? It depends, specifically it depends on the quality of the secret, this is a mystical tool for ferreting out the darkest secrets of the world, it will give you more leeway when you want to look at the obscure, the occult and the dangerous than it will the safe and the mundane. You get one lottery number and, one horse race winner etc...'
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use the school as a focus and yes we only get one answer we can use said question on what will all assigned works at this school have as answers. We'd get an absurd amount of info we would not be overwhelmed by it though or get shortchanged.
 
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