I know, thing is she is interested. She isn't just a horror movie fan, she is a fan of the genre in general, including up and coming writers.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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I know, thing is she is interested. She isn't just a horror movie fan, she is a fan of the genre in general, including up and coming writers.
So, I made a mistake with math a bit. It normally takes 4XP*current rating to raise a stat. So, in order to decrease the XP cost of raising a 4 dot stat to 1, we need 15 doses of a potion, not 19. So, to increase the stats of a circlemate who has at least some of them at 4, we need 2 (social and mental) * 15 * 3 = 90 XP. This makes 5 SGI AP in alchemy a minimum amount we can afford to spend. We'll be spending those for the next 4 months, at which point we should be able to raise all stats to 5.
Okay.
That wasnt clear beforehand.
Is it an SGI Action, or a Molly Prime only action?
You have the socials to persuade her to make it an SGI action, but you would have to roll. Right now she is assuming Molly Prime.
Fair.
Molly Prime it is, I guess. Just replace the training action with going to Toronto.
Let me go look over the plan draft again.
So... We are totally going to encounter some young half mad author presenting his new novel called "Broken Winged Crane" in the convention, aren't we? With a possiblity of Archive also being there.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
I'd recommend prioritizing this one if your wanting suggestions, since the Mendozas can be used to get to Maggie who can be used to get to McCoy and Dresden and our party.
-- Ensure the Mendozas are settled in and secure. 1 SGI AP
Also I'd like an answer to what was pointed out in this post.
On the topic of Crown Questions I'm not sure how that's supposed to work adding them to a monthly plan, like when would they be asked, but DP approved of it and you have two on your plan already so how about these?
•Mab question to remove temptation during future negotiations a roll would be needed to resist as was the case last time we talked to her and she brought up lore.
-Crown foci: Clippy recording of conversation had with Mab at bar
• Ask who the HollowMan was referring to when he offered to tell Molly of other people like her in exchange for his life.
-Crown foci: Clippy recording of HollowMan death
• Ask how Mikaboshi killed a Fallen Angel or Angel equivalent to take over the Wicked City. This may help with the Denarian trap plan or crossing over from E5 later if killing and eating one is possible for Molly.
-Crown foci: Wicked City rescued slaves/servants or raided items
That internal logic has repeatedly evaporated around us, especially when someone from on high or down below gets involved.
Approximately half of what Peabody did in this quest would be impossible under canon rules and the price his backers paid for it is an off screen thing that they may as well have infinite funding for as far as we can tell.
What resources we can see certainly allow for more even outside of that. The reds have multiple gods to use as weapons, which they didn't deploy because they were trying to avoid blowing their whole strategic reserve at once.
I'm not saying the defenses are pointless, they do a lot of good, but they're not addressing the entire problem.
There's also the matter of what success and failure mean in this context. I don't think that say the red court could conquer territory in our hell, but that doesn't mean they can't cause harm or advance their agenda. The same applies to other powers interested in Molly.
That could take the form of anything from stealing our people away to perform unspeakable atrocities on to arrange to create problems for us that don't require invading hell.
Just to illustrate an example, remember how Nemesis' current plans are based on turning mortals against the supernatural by tearing down the masquerade? Consider the local connections that the red court has to our new war front along with their willingness to be made pawns of the Outside, and how those might combine to cause a complete catastrophe.
If I was Nemesis, my plan right now would be to exploit the situation while Molly is the least prepared she'll ever be and use her to advance my operations at the same time. Provide the red court with assistance while maneuvering mortal governments to blow up the masquerade with a WW3 scale battle between vampires and demonic cyborgs.
That situation could very easily deteriorate into total pandemonium. Overcoming it in the end wouldn't erase the damage done while it happened. Which applies to any plan our enemies might execute.
This is why my preferred approach is to invest more in the situation as a whole.
Yes build the fortress, but also:
1) Provide more expansive protections to the entire defense force to mitigate harm from unexpected angles of attack.
— Some sort of AoE splendor to provide mental/spiritual immunities to everyone involved instead of just a few people.
2) Make infrastructural efforts to complicate opposition efforts in our new territory
— Splendors like the one I designed for Mallko, which would curse patsies operating near us quite substantially.
3) Support factions which will tie up opposition resources and shore up our ties to the local communities.
— Guns, medical supplies, special magic bullshit for Saint Giles.
— White Council visitor wing on our base.
— Potentially reaching out to the local mortal governments and introduce ourselves to the neighbors.
— Figuring out who the other non-red morally acceptable factions are in the area are and supporting them as well.
4) Direct action where helpful.
— Molly is an American, the predilection for air strikes comes with citizenship.
This also has the added advantages of advancing our agenda for the supernatural world and, on a more OOC level, actually engaging in the setting.
Personally I like the DF setting, and this is one of the most important yet least explored wars in it. I don't want to spend all our time in a basement building things, interrupted only by our enemies abusing the initiative to punch us in the face.
Ivar
Dark Reaper
- Location
- Russia Moscow
So, I will say that this is probably one of the best Exaltet fanfics/quests I have read. And I have been reading mostly them for the last three weeks and I always come to the conclusion that this quest is simply better mainly because it does not fall into too much esotericism, does not torture the character with constant failures without any payoffs and is simply well written. I just wanted to say this and express my gratitude to DragonParadox.
VOTE
[X]PLAN MONEY POWER AND RESPECT
-[X] MOLLY PRIME: 6 AP + 2 Malcoffee AP
--[X][FINANCES AND INFRASTRUCTURE]In the Sky a Thousand Eyes: Satellite cyberdevils. 1AP
--[X][PERSONAL TRAINING] The Bridges of the Spirit: Continue your training in the Bridge of Dreams. 1AP + 2 Malcoffee AP
--[X][INVESTIGATION] A Friend in Need. You promised Rosie that you would help. 1AP
---[X]Write-In: Conventional Visitation: World Horrorcon Toronto
--[X][CRAFTING] Attune and Study the Dark Rider: 1 AP
---[X] NEW... or you could give it to Harry as a loan [Free Action]
--[X][CRAFTING] Updated New Artifact Workshop: Crafting a place of potential(8/10 AP) [+ 1d4 Joe + 1 Tiffany]: 0 AP
--[X][INVESTIGATION] Secure the Shard of Gold: See if you can get them to accept more protections. 1AP
--[X][INVESTIGATION] The Queen and the Kingdom: Get to know one of your lands and peoples. 1AP
---[X] Introduce the Jade Dogs in general to your kingdom, some will likely prefer a world where they dont have to hide
--[X][WRITE-IN INVESTIGATION]Crown Question: Focus: 1st Namshiel Recording. What did Namshiel learn about Molly?
-[X]SPLINTERED GALE INCARNATION: 24/24 SGI AP
--[X][SCHOOL][SGI] Attend school: 1 SGI AP
--[X][FINANCES AND INFRASTRUCTURE] Updated [SGI] A Big Score: Crown Lottery. 1 SGI AP
--[X][FINANCES AND INFRASTRUCTURE] NEW [SGI] Chicago Real Estate: 1 SGI AP
--[X][FINANCES AND INFRASTRUCTURE] NEW [SGI] Las Vegas Real Estate: Basing rights involve having actual base. 1 SGI AP
--[X][FINANCES AND INFRASTRUCTURE] NEW [SGI] Earthside portal real estate: 1 SGI AP
--[X][FINANCES AND INFRASTRUCTURE] NEW [SGI] Gun Running: 2 SGI AP
---[X] High explosives and similar materials, Medical equipment
---[X] Export grade weapons of the types they already have samples of.
--[X][INVESTIGATION] [SGI] Crown and Scepter: See what good your talents can be put towards in Sanctuary. 2 SGI AP
--[X][INVESTIGATION] NEW [SGI] Hunt Down Foes: 2 SGI AP
---[X] True Magi: From Africa and Asia, from Europe to Australia... and even some talk of Nazis in the Nevernever of all things
---[X] Evil Bob: Last you heard he was somewhere in Egypt, or at least the monster he bargained with was
--[X][FAMILY TIME] [SGI] NEW Introductions To More of You: Twin jokes aside it's going to take time and care: 1 SGI AP
--[X][WRITE-IN: INVESTIGATION] UNDER PRESSURE: Forthill and Von Triers both confirm an ongoing smear campaigns at the Church by an unknown third party. Investigate. 1 SGI AP
--[X][WRITE-IN: INVESTIGATION] IMMIGRANT SONG: Ensure the Mendozas are settled in and secure. 1 SGI AP
--[X][WRITE-IN: INVESTIGATION] HELLMOUTH: Study how to close the portal to Sanctuary in the Amazon. 3 SGI AP
--[X][WRITE-IN: CRAFTING] ALCHEMY: Making potions of Astarte Veneria, Nabu Mercury and Malcoffee: 4 SGI AP
--[X][WRITE-IN: INVESTIGATION]: WHOLE NEW WORLD: Introduce Rosie to Sanctuary and more of your safer new friends and associates(Cauldron, Olivia, Lydia,Thomas, Harry, Tiffany, reintroduction to your family with baby): 3 SGI AP
--[X][WRITE-IN: ARCANE ALLIES]: TOYS FOR TOTS: Off the shelf armor(Fae mail equivalent, Armor 3, no penalty) + other starter gear for baby Wardens in training. 1 SGI AP
EXPLANATION
The most time-critical thing here is the lottery.
There appears to be historically a $390 million unclaimed Mega Millions lottery on March 2; its the largest one in 2007.
Citation is here:
powerfall.com
If we dont claim it, it rolls over and two people split it in the next drawing on March 6.
If we take the lump payout, we get ~$233 million; that was the historical payout to the March 6 winners based on then-current tax rates according to Wikipedia. See here
Mega Millions - Wikipedia
After 37% federal taxes take their cut, we are left with ~$146ish million, depending on how good our accountant is and what state we file in. A few states tax lottery wins, others dont.
So net is between $135 million and $146 million.
~$19 million of that goes towards a family trust for the Carpenters.(2 million per kid, 3 million per parent, 1 million extra)
~ $8 million towards everyone who came to Arctis Tor to save Molly last year (Harry, Tiffany, Murphy, Thomas)
~$110 million for real estate and the stock market; up to $40 million might go into real estate.
Any extra goes in Molly's petty cash.
Anything that might require large amounts of money, like investigating the movie studio, waits until Molly has been done with the essential financial stuff this turn.
Joe + Tiffany are finishing the Arcane Forge.
With at least 1AP from Joe, and 1AP from Tiffany, it will finish this month even without Molly spending any AP.
When they finish it, then we can start on making Ivy's shit next month in April.
We promised to get Rosie to Horrorcon in March, so it gets an AP.
And Molly goes back to train with Brother Div to figure out how to fix her derangement, and learn how to regenerate Willpower at rest.
Another time sensitive issue is following up on Evil Bob and the other True Mages.
Specifically, there's also clone AP in trying to figure out how to close the Sanctuary portal.
Because a hole into your soul is the kind of thing you need to know how to close if its necessary.
For when someone tries to do to us what we did to Mikaboshi.
[X]PLAN MONEY POWER AND RESPECT
-[X] MOLLY PRIME: 6 AP + 2 Malcoffee AP
--[X][FINANCES AND INFRASTRUCTURE]In the Sky a Thousand Eyes: Satellite cyberdevils. 1AP
--[X][PERSONAL TRAINING] The Bridges of the Spirit: Continue your training in the Bridge of Dreams. 1AP + 2 Malcoffee AP
--[X][INVESTIGATION] A Friend in Need. You promised Rosie that you would help. 1AP
---[X]Write-In: Conventional Visitation: World Horrorcon Toronto
--[X][CRAFTING] Attune and Study the Dark Rider: 1 AP
---[X] NEW... or you could give it to Harry as a loan [Free Action]
--[X][CRAFTING] Updated New Artifact Workshop: Crafting a place of potential(8/10 AP) [+ 1d4 Joe + 1 Tiffany]: 0 AP
--[X][INVESTIGATION] Secure the Shard of Gold: See if you can get them to accept more protections. 1AP
--[X][INVESTIGATION] The Queen and the Kingdom: Get to know one of your lands and peoples. 1AP
---[X] Introduce the Jade Dogs in general to your kingdom, some will likely prefer a world where they dont have to hide
--[X][WRITE-IN INVESTIGATION]Crown Question: Focus: 1st Namshiel Recording. What did Namshiel learn about Molly?
-[X]SPLINTERED GALE INCARNATION: 24/24 SGI AP
--[X][SCHOOL][SGI] Attend school: 1 SGI AP
--[X][FINANCES AND INFRASTRUCTURE] Updated [SGI] A Big Score: Crown Lottery. 1 SGI AP
--[X][FINANCES AND INFRASTRUCTURE] NEW [SGI] Chicago Real Estate: 1 SGI AP
--[X][FINANCES AND INFRASTRUCTURE] NEW [SGI] Las Vegas Real Estate: Basing rights involve having actual base. 1 SGI AP
--[X][FINANCES AND INFRASTRUCTURE] NEW [SGI] Earthside portal real estate: 1 SGI AP
--[X][FINANCES AND INFRASTRUCTURE] NEW [SGI] Gun Running: 2 SGI AP
---[X] High explosives and similar materials, Medical equipment
---[X] Export grade weapons of the types they already have samples of.
--[X][INVESTIGATION] [SGI] Crown and Scepter: See what good your talents can be put towards in Sanctuary. 2 SGI AP
--[X][INVESTIGATION] NEW [SGI] Hunt Down Foes: 2 SGI AP
---[X] True Magi: From Africa and Asia, from Europe to Australia... and even some talk of Nazis in the Nevernever of all things
---[X] Evil Bob: Last you heard he was somewhere in Egypt, or at least the monster he bargained with was
--[X][FAMILY TIME] [SGI] NEW Introductions To More of You: Twin jokes aside it's going to take time and care: 1 SGI AP
--[X][WRITE-IN: INVESTIGATION] UNDER PRESSURE: Forthill and Von Triers both confirm an ongoing smear campaigns at the Church by an unknown third party. Investigate. 1 SGI AP
--[X][WRITE-IN: INVESTIGATION] IMMIGRANT SONG: Ensure the Mendozas are settled in and secure. 1 SGI AP
--[X][WRITE-IN: INVESTIGATION] HELLMOUTH: Study how to close the portal to Sanctuary in the Amazon. 3 SGI AP
--[X][WRITE-IN: CRAFTING] ALCHEMY: Making potions of Astarte Veneria, Nabu Mercury and Malcoffee: 4 SGI AP
--[X][WRITE-IN: INVESTIGATION]: WHOLE NEW WORLD: Introduce Rosie to Sanctuary and more of your safer new friends and associates(Cauldron, Olivia, Lydia,Thomas, Harry, Tiffany, reintroduction to your family with baby): 3 SGI AP
--[X][WRITE-IN: ARCANE ALLIES]: TOYS FOR TOTS: Off the shelf armor(Fae mail equivalent, Armor 3, no penalty) + other starter gear for baby Wardens in training. 1 SGI AP
EXPLANATION
The most time-critical thing here is the lottery.
There appears to be historically a $390 million unclaimed Mega Millions lottery on March 2; its the largest one in 2007.
Citation is here:
2007 POWERBALL vs. MEGA MILLIONS Drawings (Side-by-side)
2007 POWERBALL vs. MEGA MILLIONS drawings (Side-by-side). Compared all 2007 Powerball & Mega Millions numbers and jackpots Side-by-Side
If we take the lump payout, we get ~$233 million; that was the historical payout to the March 6 winners based on then-current tax rates according to Wikipedia. See here
Mega Millions - Wikipedia
After 37% federal taxes take their cut, we are left with ~$146ish million, depending on how good our accountant is and what state we file in. A few states tax lottery wins, others dont.
So net is between $135 million and $146 million.
~$19 million of that goes towards a family trust for the Carpenters.(2 million per kid, 3 million per parent, 1 million extra)
~ $8 million towards everyone who came to Arctis Tor to save Molly last year (Harry, Tiffany, Murphy, Thomas)
~$110 million for real estate and the stock market; up to $40 million might go into real estate.
Any extra goes in Molly's petty cash.
Anything that might require large amounts of money, like investigating the movie studio, waits until Molly has been done with the essential financial stuff this turn.
Joe + Tiffany are finishing the Arcane Forge.
With at least 1AP from Joe, and 1AP from Tiffany, it will finish this month even without Molly spending any AP.
When they finish it, then we can start on making Ivy's shit next month in April.
We promised to get Rosie to Horrorcon in March, so it gets an AP.
And Molly goes back to train with Brother Div to figure out how to fix her derangement, and learn how to regenerate Willpower at rest.
Another time sensitive issue is following up on Evil Bob and the other True Mages.
Specifically, there's also clone AP in trying to figure out how to close the Sanctuary portal.
Because a hole into your soul is the kind of thing you need to know how to close if its necessary.
For when someone tries to do to us what we did to Mikaboshi.
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boo600
Ego sum egredietur tempestas.
- Location
- Texas
- Pronouns
- He/Him/Hungry
Damn. Deciding between these plans is a pain; we need to investigate Evil Bob and the mages, the crown questions are amazing, I love the idea of testing board games on Harry and the Alphas, and base building is always good… but I really want [] PLAN POWER OVERWHELMING, just for all the crafting (as well as finally getting around to doing something with that movie theater we have - and for our circlemate's flaw, no less! - as well as finally just sending a Splinter to do the lottery. We should be crossing this stuff off our list already! Not to mention finally getting control over satellites…)
Also, @DragonParadox, this option was chosen in the last plan.
[] [SGI] NEW Introductions to more of you: Twin jokes aside it's going to take a bit of time and care to get your family used to other yous and keep the secret
Is it the case that plans can fail to accomplish things, if we go overboard on jumping after plot hooks?
Also, @DragonParadox, this option was chosen in the last plan.
[] [SGI] NEW Introductions to more of you: Twin jokes aside it's going to take a bit of time and care to get your family used to other yous and keep the secret
Is it the case that plans can fail to accomplish things, if we go overboard on jumping after plot hooks?
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Haven't they been moved already? If not, I'll drop babysitting for Rosie to do that. We can get professional babysitter from the Courts as part of convention action.
That's arguable. And even then, it leads to "anyone and everyone can be and is arbitrarily powerful" issue. Which makes it impossilbe to plan anything.
Always has been.
Also, @DragonParadox, this option was chosen in the last plan.
[] [SGI] NEW Introductions to more of you: Twin jokes aside it's going to take a bit of time and care to get your family used to other yous and keep the secret
Is it the case that plans can fail to accomplish things, if we go overboard on jumping after plot hooks?
That's an error, fixed
Success or failure will depend on rolls
[] [SGI] NEW Introductions to more of you: Twin jokes aside it's going to take a bit of time and care to get your family used to other yous and keep the secret
Is it the case that plans can fail to accomplish things, if we go overboard on jumping after plot hooks?
That's an error, fixed
Success or failure will depend on rolls
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
Safe and secure means that Molly or a clone uses some of her assets to better facilitate that. She can secure them in ways Dresden can't for example.
Anyway are you just ignoring the rest of my post about Crown questions? What's up with that?
No, I am not. I'll add the first two (I am guessing you mean "what knowledge of Exalted Mab has?" as a question?). The last one, I am fairly sure Molly doesn't know about how Mikaboshi ascended to his throne IC. Might be wrong though.
I'll add Mendozas, no problem.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
Alright thank you.
Your still ignoring the Namshiel bit though which I linked in that post.
Yeah that's what I mean. That is what Mab tempted us with then we had to pass a roll not to fall in the trap when we were talking to her in the bar and brought up Maeve possessed by Nemesis.
I think Molly does know because of this information being from her perspective and @DragonParadox said earlier that he answers questions from Molly's point of view so when he explained to us how Mikaboshi ascended that should be the context.
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I am fairly sure that foci like coin holding sites, and records of their bearers exist. The church is able to provide intel on denarians, after all. Even if not, I think the question I am posing is a bit pressing, given that we had a confrontation with Namshiel, and they had some sort of revelation, as I understand it.
Ok, I'll update the plan in the next half an hour or so.
@DragonParadox does Molly know that Mikaboshi killed a fallen angel to obtain his power?
Updated my plan. The following changes have been implemented:
1) Added loaning Harry the artifact as a free action. He just got enlightened. Let him play with his new abilities.
2) Added the following crown questions:
---[] What does Mab know concerning the subject of your exaltation? (use the recording of your talk with Mab when she referred to you as Green Sun)
---[] Who was Hollow Man referring to when he offered to tell Molly of other people like her in exchange for his life? (use record of his word)
---[] How (by what means) has Mikaboshi seized the power from its previous owner? (use freed Wicked City slaves)
3) Switched babysitting for Rosie to settling in and securing Mendozas. We can get professional caregivers, both from the courts and from Earth quite easily with money and status. And this is likely to be part of the convention vote anyway. So, no need for additional AP spending right now.
1) Added loaning Harry the artifact as a free action. He just got enlightened. Let him play with his new abilities.
2) Added the following crown questions:
---[] What does Mab know concerning the subject of your exaltation? (use the recording of your talk with Mab when she referred to you as Green Sun)
---[] Who was Hollow Man referring to when he offered to tell Molly of other people like her in exchange for his life? (use record of his word)
---[] How (by what means) has Mikaboshi seized the power from its previous owner? (use freed Wicked City slaves)
3) Switched babysitting for Rosie to settling in and securing Mendozas. We can get professional caregivers, both from the courts and from Earth quite easily with money and status. And this is likely to be part of the convention vote anyway. So, no need for additional AP spending right now.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
I'm pretty sure Molly knows that Mikaboshi ascended and what that means based on these two post and how they apply to DP's statement and the info posts I linked earlier.
Also unrelated but when I was looking around for the above quotes I came across the following one and remembered that you had a theory that using the Crown on other Exaltations may produce inaccurate results when we were talking about why the Crown gave us such a response when we asked about what "artifact older than the stars and the earth is Odin after".
For some reason Coin holding sites slipped my mind even though I was thinking of Harry's old one for Lashiel. Though again Nicodemus destroys Church records of Denarians. Still I can see why you'd prioritize that question over my suggested one, I don't think he gained much from such a brief encounter that we can't already infer with accuracy but I could be wrong.
Also unrelated but when I was looking around for the above quotes I came across the following one and remembered that you had a theory that using the Crown on other Exaltations may produce inaccurate results when we were talking about why the Crown gave us such a response when we asked about what "artifact older than the stars and the earth is Odin after".
It doesn't disprove that 100% but still worth noting.
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